What is Jesus real name?

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In order for me to know God, i need to know his real name first.

- Yeshua = Hebrew
- Iesous = Greek
- Jesus = Now ( English )
- Isa = Quran


these is the name that i found, so which one is the real one and what is the prove that it is the real name?
Hi nighte,
Are you giving God lessons on how to love?
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Shwagga

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that's very Instructive to see how a word has evolved through different cultures and times! but the problem is that you assume the original name of Jesus was uttered in hebrew Yeshua (ישוע) ... while it was not.
Jesus spoke Aramaic, his original name was pronounced in the Aramaic language ..

His name is not the Hebrew "Yeshua`" or "Yahushuwa`", neither is it the Arabic "Yasu'a" which the Arab Christians claim. It's Interesting to note that the Persian (Farsi) Bible admits Jesus' name is "`Eesaa"!

Peace

PS.: the distinction you made between the sound 'Seen' and 'Sheen' is also interesting... perhaps if you could provide us with more information on that
Yes, Hebrew and Aramaic (not to be confused with Assyrian which is neo-Aramaic) have the same exact alphabet except for the "vav" and "waw" (like the Arabic waow) distinction.

So that is why when I said ישוע is the Hebrew/Aramaic name I was basing that off of the Septuagint and Hebrew Tanakh. If you were to look at, for example Ezra 5:5 (2) in the Greek Septuagint you see...

Ezra 5:5 οι ιερεις υιοι φινεες υιου ααρων ιησους ο του ιωσεδεκ του σαραιου και ιωακιμ ο του ζοροβαβελ του σαλαθιηλ εκ του οικου του δαυιδ εκ της γενεας φαρες φυλης δε ιουδα

Ezra 5:2 (same verse) בֵּאדַ֡יִן קָ֠מוּ זְרֻבָּבֶ֤ל בַּר־שְׁאַלְתִּיאֵל֙ וְיֵשׁ֣וּעַ בַּר־יֹֽוצָדָ֔ק וְשָׁרִ֣יו לְמִבְנֵ֔א בֵּ֥ית אֱלָהָ֖א דִּ֣י בִירֽוּשְׁלֶ֑ם וְעִמְּהֹ֛ון דִֽי־אֱלָהָ֖א מְסָעֲדִ֥ין לְהֹֽון

Ezra 5:2(5) So Zerubbabel the son of Shealtiel and Jeshua the son of Jozadak rose up and began to build the house of God which is in Jerusalem; and the prophets of God were with them, helping them.

So we see even the MT translates the name Ἰησοῦς (Iesous) into ישוע (Yeshua).

Matthew 1:16
ιακωβ δε εγεννησεν τον ιωσηφ τον ανδρα μαριας εξ ης εγεννηθη ιησους ο λεγομενος χριστος

Matthew 1:16
And Jacob begot Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus who is called Christ.

So. Yeshua (the Aramaic/Hebrew) and Iesous (koine Greek) are interchangeable because Iesous is simply Yeshua transliterated into Greek.

To answer your question why the "seen" and "sheen" distinction is made between translating/transliterating in Arabic/Hebrew I'll give you an article on it.

Hebrew and Arabic are both Semitic languages, and they are closely related, there are certain well-known rules which sounds/letters in Hebrew correspond to which sounds/letters in Arabic. Specifically, the Hebrew letter Shin regularly turns into the Arabic letter Sin, e.g. the Hebrew word for peace, shalom, corresponds to the Arabic word salam. According to those linguistic rules and relationships between Hebrew and Arabic, Yasu' is the proper Arabic equivalent for the Hebrew Yeshua':

Yeshua' = Yod + Shin + Waw + 'Ain
Yasu' = Ya + Sin + Waw + 'Ain

Again, the linguistically most appropriate Arabic equivalent for the Hebrew Yeshua' is Yasu'. Thus, the traditional Arabic name for Jesus is the linguistically most appropriate one. The transition from Yeshua' to Yasu' follows the common rules of phonetic changes from Hebrew to Arabic. In that sense, Yasu' is the true Arabic name of Jesus. There is nothing arbitrary about it. On the contrary, Yasu' is the natural equivalent of Yeshua'.


On the other hand, it is a long-standing mystery where Esa, the quranic name for Jesus, is coming from. Although there exist a number of theories that are more or less convincing, we will probably never know for sure.

To summarize, Jesus' original name was certainly not Arabic — neither the version Esa, found in the Qur'an, nor the version Yasu' used in Arabic Bible translations. His original and therefore true name was Hebrew. The linguistically most appropriate transcription of the Hebrew name Yeshua' into Arabic is Yasu', the very name that has traditionally been used by Arab Christians, probably already before the advent of Islam. Since Esa was not Jesus' original name, it cannot be maintained that it was divinely revealed since that would imply that God revealed a wrong name. Therefore, the name Esa was invented just as Yasu' was invented, the difference being that Yasu' is the linguistically appropriate transliteration of Yeshua', while Esa is not. The only question remaining is how did the name Esa arise?

Because of the above stated facts, the following verse presents a real problem, at least to some or even many Muslims:

(Remember) when the angels said: "O Maryam (Mary)! Verily, Allah gives you the glad tidings of a Word ["Be!" - and he was! i.e. 'Iesa (Jesus) the son of Maryam (Mary)] from Him, his name will be the Messiah 'Iesa (Jesus), the son of Maryam (Mary), held in honour in this world and in the Hereafter, and will be one of those who are near to Allah." Sura 3:45 Al-Hilali and Khan

Stripping the statement from all the various insertions added in by the translators, the message of the angels to Mary allegedly was: "O Maryam! Verily, Allah gives you the glad tidings of a Word from Him, his name will be the Messiah 'Iesa, the son of Maryam, held in honour in this world and in the Hereafter, and will be one of those who are near to Allah." Because of this verse many Muslims like Abualrub feel obligated to claim that Esa is the true name of Jesus. After all, that is his divinely revealed name according to the Qur'an!

Historically, it is impossible, but what should or could Muslims do? Somehow the name Esa must be justified if they do not want to admit an error in the Qur'an.
read more at:'Isa -- the true name of Jesus?
 
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They are all his name, and there's actually dozens more that are all the name of the Lord
 
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Funny, I knew you were the originator of this thread before I even read it Lightme/Nighte. perhaps you should do some study on the gifts of the spirit. We receive spiritual gifts when we receive the Lord. For some this is the gift of discernment. Praying you will come to a most personal wisdom of the Holy Spirit and receive of the Lords spiritual gifting in the receiving of Jesus as your Lord and saviour. You are returning here for a reason!! Bless your heart.
 
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In order for me to know God, i need to know his real name first.
The question of the derivation of Jesus name is interesting and valid, but please understand that salvation does not hinge on this knowledge. In John 4, a Samaritan woman asked Jesus where she needed to worship in order to be accepted. Samaritans were detested by the Jews at that time, but Jesus assured her that it is not the location or trappings of worship that matter, but the heart:

The woman said to him, “Sir, I perceive that you are a prophet. Our fathers worshiped on this mountain, but you say that in Jerusalem is the place where people ought to worship.”
Jesus said to her, “Woman, believe me, the hour is coming when neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem will you worship the Father.
You worship what you do not know; we worship what we know, for salvation is from the Jews.
But the hour is coming, and is now here, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for the Father is seeking such people to worship him.
God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth.”
The woman said to him, “I know that Messiah is coming (he who is called Christ). When he comes, he will tell us all things.”
Jesus said to her, “I who speak to you am he.” - John 4:19-26​

What matters is that you understand the character and nature of Jesus, who He is and what He did for you on the Cross. When you accept that, then you will come to saving knowledge of God, regardless of how the name of Jesus might be pronounced in your culture. Heaven cannot be achieved by any striving for religious perfection. It is achieved solely through the merits of the precious Blood of the Son of God, given in satisfaction of our sin-debt to a Holy God.
 
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his reall name is isa عيسى meny people think yashoua and isa are the same i dont think they r the same person but i know that isa is son of marry the maseeh
 
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Jesus. When translated is "Jehovah Savior"
There is only One Savior God ( Jehovah) said this in
Isaiah 43 v 11; "I, even I, am The Lord, and beside me there is NO SAVIOR."

Then in Matthew 1 v 21 it sez.."And she shall bring forth. Son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus, and HE SHALL SAVE his people from their sins"

So Jehovah tells us in The OT he is THE ONLY SAVIOR, then in Matthew 1 v21 it tells us Jesus is the savior, which simply means Jesus and Jehovah are one and The Same God, not person #1 and person#2.

Furthermore. Jehovah, and all the other names God was called became ONE NAME ......JESuS CHRIST. Read the prophecy of this in Zechariah 14 v 9.
 
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Well one of the languages Jesus spoke here on earth was Aramaic. So what about Jesus in Aramaic?
 
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In order for me to know God, i need to know his real name first.

- Yeshua = Hebrew
- Iesous = Greek
- Jesus = Now ( English )
- Isa = Quran

these is the name that i found, so which one is the real one and what is the prove that it is the real name?

I was an alcoholic when God revealed himself to me and for 29 years, he never told me his name because he could care less about human names. It's the spirit you need to know, not human names.
 
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Crazy4GODword

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I was an alcoholic when God revealed himself to me and for 29 years, he never told me his name because he could care less about human names. It's the spirit you need to know, not human names.
Your right!!!!
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In order for me to know God, i need to know his real name first.

- Yeshua = Hebrew
- Iesous = Greek
- Jesus = Now ( English )
- Isa = Quran

these is the name that i found, so which one is the real one and what is the prove that it is the real name?
I thought I once learned that
 
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jamest48

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JEHOVAH,YHWH,I AM.Alpha and Omega,the First and the Last,Father,Saviour,Friend,Wonderful Counselor,He is my everything,simply put,AMEN
 
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footwork

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TO ALL,
GOD BLESS US ALL!! Just follow HIM truly is what matters. But, definitely studying the origins of the languages does help: Semetic, Aramaic, Arabic and many other Egyptian ( where Moses was a slave and learned to write, read, and speak from) languages. There were many languages there. It does make a slight difference. For those that speak different languages, you realize that translating things to another language can lose some of the content. But the basics of JESUS is the same. HE is GOD, son of GOD, definitely not human or a prophet. This is without a doubt, and is proven by characteristics in Kimet, the Quaran, and Bible.

AMEN!! PRAISE Yashu'a bin Yusef!!

ELOHIM, KEEP OUR EYES ON JESUS, and EARS TO THE HOLY SPIRIT DAY and NIGHT,

footwork; servant of GOD
 
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SantoSubito

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In order for me to know God, i need to know his real name first.

- Yeshua = Hebrew
- Iesous = Greek
- Jesus = Now ( English )
- Isa = Quran

these is the name that i found, so which one is the real one and what is the prove that it is the real name?
Like another poster said 1-3 are transliterations of Jesus' name in Hebrew, but i would like to correct one error he made. Yes i know this thread is ancient, but I'm a stickler for these types of things.

The Latin transliteration of the Greek name for Jesus (Iesous) Is Iesus in Latin there was no Letter J, W, or U (Technically in Latin Jesus' name would be spelled Iesvs. Later on the letter J was added by the other Romance languages (French being the most prominent). In English this V (which makes a U sound in Latin anyway) became a U and the I became a J and thus we have our spelling of Jesus.
 
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Crazy4GODword

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ELOHIM......Genesis 1:1, Psalm 19:1
meaning "God", a reference to God's power and might.
ADONAI......Malachi 1:6
meaning "Lord", a reference to the Lordship of God.
JEHOVAH--YAHWEH.....Genesis 2:4
a reference to God's divine salvation.
JEHOVAH-MACCADDESHEM.......Exodus 31:13
meaning "The Lord thy sanctifier"
JEHOVAH-ROHI......Psalm 23:1
meaning "The Lord my shepherd"
JEHOVAH-SHAMMAH.......Ezekiel 48:35
meaning "The Lord who is present"
JEHOVAH-RAPHA.........Exodus 15:26
meaning "The Lord our healer"
JEHOVAH-TSIDKENU......Jeremiah 23:6
meaning "The Lord our righteousness"
JEHOVAH-JIREH.........Genesis 22:13-14
meaning "The Lord will provide"
JEHOVAH-NISSI.........Exodus 17:15
meaning "The Lord our banner"
JEHOVAH-SHALOM........Judges 6:24
meaning "The Lord is peace"
JEHOVAH-SABBAOTH......Isaiah 6:1-3
meaning "The Lord of Hosts"
JEHOVAH-GMOLAH........Jeremiah 51:6
meaning "The God of Recompense"
EL-ELYON..............Genesis 14:17-20,Isaiah 14:13-14
meaning "The most high God
EL-ROI................Genesis 16:13
meaning "The strong one who sees"
EL-SHADDAI............Genesis 17:1,Psalm 91:1
meaning "The God of the mountains or God Almighty"
EL-OLAM...............Isaiah 40:28-31
meaning "The everlasting God"

MORE NAMES OF GOD
ABBA.............................Romans 8:15
ADVOCATE.........................I John 2:1 (kjv)
ALMIGHTY.........................Genesis 17:1
ALPHA............................Revelation 22:13
AMEN.............................Revelation 3:14
ANCIENT OF DAYS..................Daniel 7:9
ANOINTED ONE.....................Psalm 2:2
APOSTLE..........................Hebrews 3:1
ARM OF THE LORD..................Isaiah 53:1
AUTHOR OF LIFE...................Acts 3:15
AUTHOR OF OUR FAITH..............Hebrews 12:2

BEGINNING.........................Revelation 21:6
BLESSED & HOLY RULER..............1 Timothy 6:15
BRANCH............................Jeremiah 33:15
BREAD OF GOD......................John 6:33
BREAD OF LIFE.....................John 6:35
BRIDEGROOM........................Isaiah 62:56
BRIGHT MORNING STAR...............Revelation 22:16

CHIEF SHEPHERD.....................1 Peter 5:4
CHOSEN ONE.........................Isaiah 42:1
CHRIST.............................Matthew 22:42
CHRIST OF GOD......................Luke 9:20
CHRIST THE LORD....................Luke 2:11
CHRIST, SON OF LIVING GOD..........Matthew 16:16
COMFORTER..........................John 14:26(kjv)
COMMANDER..........................Isaiah 55:4
CONSOLATION OF ISRAEL...............Luke 2:25
CONSUMING FIRE......................Deut. 4:24, Heb. 12:29
CORNERSTONE.........................Isaiah 28:16
COUNSELOR...........................Isaiah 9:6
CREATOR.............................1 Peter 4:19

DELIVERER..............................Romans 11:26
DESIRED OF ALL NATIONS.................Haggai 2:7
DOOR...................................John 10:7(kjv)

END....................................Revelation 21:6
ETERNAL GOD............................Deut. 33:27
EVERLASTING FATHER.....................Isaiah 9:6

FAITHFUL & TRUE........................Revelation 19:11
FAITHFUL WITNESS.......................Revelation 1:5
FATHER.................................Matthew 6:9
FIRSTBORN (3)........................................Rom.8:29,Rev.1:5,Col.1:15
FIRSTFRUITS............................1 Cor.15:20-23
FOUNDATION.............................1 Cor. 3:11
FRIEND OF TAX COLLECTORS & SINNERS.....Matthew 11:19

GENTLE WHISPER.........................1 Kings 19:12
GIFT OF GOD............................John 4:10
GLORY OF THE LORD......................Isaiah 40:5
GOD....................................Genesis 1:1
GOD ALMIGHTY...........................Genesis 17:1
GOD OVER ALL...........................Romans 9:5
GOD WHO SEES ME........................Genesis 16:13
GOOD SHEPHERD..........................John 10:11
GREAT HIGH PRIEST......................Hebrews 4:14
GREAT SHEPHERD.........................Hebrews 13:20
GUIDE..................................Psalm 48:14

HEAD OF THE BODY.......................Colossians 1:18
HEAD OF THE CHURCH.....................Ephesians 5:23
HEIR OF ALL THINGS.....................Hebrews 1:2
HIGH PRIEST............................Hebrews 3:1
HIGH PRIEST FOREVER....................Hebrews 6:20
HOLY ONE...............................Acts 2:27
HOLY ONE OF ISRAEL.....................Isaiah 49:7
HOLY SPIRIT............................John 15:26
HOPE...................................Titus 2:13
HORN OF SALVATION......................Luke 1:69

I AM....................................Exodus 3:14, John 8:58
IMAGE OF GOD............................2 Cor. 4:4
IMAGE OF HIS PERSON.....................Hebrews 1:3 (kjv)
IMMANUEL................................Isaiah 7:14

JEALOUS..............................Exodus 34:14 (kjv)
JEHOVAH..............................Psalm 83:18 (kjv)
JESUS................................Matthew 1:21
JESUS CHRIST OUR LORD................Romans 6:23
JUDGE................................Isaiah 33:22, Acts 10:42

KING.................................Zechariah 9:9
KING ETERNAL.........................1 Timothy 1:17
KING OF KINGS........................1 Timothy 6:15
KING OF THE AGES.....................Revelation 15:3

LAMB OF GOD...........................John 1:29
LAST ADAM.............................1 Cor. 15:45
LAWGIVER..............................Isaiah 33:22
LEADER................................Isaiah 55:4
LIFE..................................John 14:6
LIGHT OF THE WORLD....................John 8:12
LIKE AN EAGLE.........................Deut. 32:11
LILY OF THE VALLEYS...................Song 2:1
LION OF THE TRIBE OF JUDAH............Revelation 5:5
LIVING STONE..........................1 Peter 2:4
LIVING WATER..........................John 4:10
LORD..................................John 13:13
LORD GOD ALMIGHTY.....................Revelation 15:3
LORD JESUS CHRIST.....................1 Cor. 15:57
LORD OF ALL...........................Acts 10:36
LORD OF GLORY ........................1 Cor. 2:8
LORD OF HOSTS.........................Haggai 1:5
LORD OF LORDS.........................1 Tim. 6:15
LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS..............Jeremiah 23:6
LOVE.................................1 John 4:8

MAN OF SORROWS.........................Isaiah 53:3
MASTER..................................Luke 5:5
MEDIATOR................................1 Timothy 2:5
MERCIFUL GOD............................Jeremiah 3:12
MESSENGER OF THE COVENANT................Malachi 3:1
MESSIAH................................. John 4:25
MIGHTY GOD...............................Isaiah 9:6
MIGHTY ONE...............................Isaiah 60:16

NAZARENE.................................Matthew 2:23

OFFSPRING OF DAVID.......................Revelation 22:16
OMEGA....................................Revelation 22:13
ONLY BEGOTTEN SON........................John 1:18(kjv)
OUR PASSOVER LAMB........................1 Cor. 5:7
OUR PEACE................................Ephesians 2:14

POTTER...................................Isaiah 64:8
POWER OF GOD.............................1 Cor. 1:24
PRINCE OF PEACE..........................Isaiah 9:6
PROPHET..................................Acts 3:22
PURIFIER.................................Malachi 3:3

RABBONI (TEACHER)........................John 20:16
RADIANCE OF GOD'S GLORY..................Heb.1:3
REDEEMER.................................Job 19:25
REFINER'S FIRE...........................Malachi 3:2
RESURRECTION.............................John 11:25
RIGHTEOUS ONE............................1 John 2:1
ROCK.....................................1 Cor.10:4
ROOT OF DAVID............................Rev. 22:16
ROSE OF SHARON...........................Song 2:1
RULER OF GOD'S CREATION..................Rev. 3:14
RULER OVER KINGS OF EARTH................Rev 1:5
RULER OVER ISRAEL........................Micah 5:2

SAVIOR...................................Luke 2:11
SCEPTER OUT OF ISRAEL....................Numbers 24:17
SEED.....................................Genesis 3:15
SERVANT..................................Isaiah 42:1
SHEPHERD OF OUR SOULS....................1Peter 2:25
SHIELD...................................Genesis 15:1
SON OF DAVID.............................Matthew 1:1
SON OF GOD...............................Matthew 27:54
SON OF MAN...............................Matthew 8:20
SON OF THE MOST HIGH.....................Luke 1:32
SOURCE...................................Hebrews 5:9
SPIRIT OF GOD............................Genesis 1:2
STAR OUT OF JACOB........................Numbers 24:17
STONE....................................1 Peter 2:8
SUN OF RIGHTEOUSNESS.....................Malachi 4:2

TEACHER...................................John 13:13
TRUE LIGHT................................John 1:9
TRUE WITNESS..............................Revelation 3:14
TRUTH.....................................John 14:6

VINE......................................John 15:5

WAY........................................John 14:6
WISDOM OF GOD..............................1 Cor. 1:24
WITNESS....................................Isaiah 55:4
WONDERFUL..................................Isaiah 9:6
WORD.......................................John 1:1
WORD OF GOD................................Revelation 19:13
 
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Shwagga

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Well one of the languages Jesus spoke here on earth was Aramaic. So what about Jesus in Aramaic?
In Aramaic and Hebrew it's the same, it's Yeshua. Even the Pesheeta uses "Yeshua" (spelled the same way in both languages)

(Pesheeta is the earliest translation of the Greek NT we have, it's translated into Aramaic.. Some scholars date it as early as the 2nd century)
 
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Shwagga

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Syriac: ܝܫܘܥ
Hebrew/modern Aramaic script: ישוע
 
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Revelation 19:13
"And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called "The Word of God."
 
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DAelect

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THE TRUE MEANING. JESUS: "YA SAVIOR" it has 2 words YA' SUA