Whats your image of God?

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phil36

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Hi aspen, i hope you are not offended by this question, some of your post come across as if you could be RC and others as 'Emergent' just curious as to what your leanings are. your bound to know mine by now lol.

Anyhow hope I wasn't imposing, its a harmless question.

Kind regards

Phil.
 
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Israel

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Im just shaking my head at how you can manage not to understand Scripture, or maybe you do and like to make it say what it doesn't mean. God is not the Image of us but we reflect the image of God, there is a difference

even just one point shows how you get it wrong... the image of the son, is.....what??? by the way when Paul is using image he is using it in the same manner as Genesis just before you answer.

secondly, since you are using the verse.. what does conformed mean Israel?? this word might help you understand what Paul is talking about and not your false teaching.



Kind regards

Phil
I'm sorry, maybe I misunderstood the question. The title is "what's your image of God?"

Genesis 1:27
So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

I understood that this verse is saying that man, male and female are made in the image of God.

I indeed know what the word "conformed" means as you judged my postings of what the Bibles says as you saw fit. If you took it to mean that we physically look like God, then again, I apologize for the misunderstanding. Now if the topic is more so on the lines of a "what does the Father look like," then my reply to that would be:

Deuteronomy 4:12-19
And the LORD spake unto you out of the midst of the fire: ye heard the voice of the words, but saw no similitude; only ye heard a voice.

13And he declared unto you his covenant, which he commanded you to perform, even ten commandments; and he wrote them upon two tables of stone.
14And the LORD commanded me at that time to teach you statutes and judgments, that ye might do them in the land whither ye go over to possess it.
15Take ye therefore good heed unto yourselves; for ye saw no manner of similitude on the day that the LORD spake unto you in Horeb out of the midst of the fire:
16Lest ye corrupt yourselves, and make you a graven image, the similitude of any figure, the likeness of male or female,
17The likeness of any beast that is on the earth, the likeness of any winged fowl that flieth in the air,
18The likeness of any thing that creepeth on the ground, the likeness of any fish that is in the waters beneath the earth: 19And lest thou lift up thine eyes unto heaven, and when thou seest the sun, and the moon, and the stars, even all the host of heaven, shouldest be driven to worship them, and serve them, which the LORD thy God hath divided unto all nations under the whole heaven.
 

phil36

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I think the point Israel is, that you do not answer a question straightforward, its always a round about way and leaving it open, you would be better sometimes not answering.

So would I be right in saying that by using Deut. 4:12-19, you are agreeing we do not know what the Father really looks like. All you have to do is answer the question simply, you don't need streams of scpriture, especially for a question like this one.

some would say we know what Jesus looks like, but, I would very strongly disagree. if we were in the time of Jesus' walking physucally amongst men we could say we new what he looks like. All the paintings and stuff, well, was Jesus white? blonde hair maybe even long light wavy brown?

And we don't know what the Spirit looks like.

We can hear God, be filled by God, we can know His attributes that He has revealed but we can not see Him as in optically.

Your first post just quoting Genesis, with the Highlighting 'in the image of man he made them' that leads to confusion as to what you mean, of course I think that is your intention. open honest answers would be good. without the vagueness.

Anyhow, trying to figure your posts out makes for passing some time lol.

Kind regards

Phil
 
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Israel

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I think the point Israel is, that you do not answer a question straightforward, its always a round about way and leaving it open, you would be better sometimes not answering.

So would I be right in saying that by using Deut. 4:12-19, you are agreeing we do not know what the Father really looks like. All you have to do is answer the question simply, you don't need streams of scpriture, especially for a question like this one.

some would say we know what Jesus looks like, but, I would very strongly disagree. if we were in the time of Jesus' walking physucally amongst men we could say we new what he looks like. All the paintings and stuff, well, was Jesus white? blonde hair maybe even long light wavy brown?

And we don't know what the Spirit looks like.

We can hear God, be filled by God, we can know His attributes that He has revealed but we can not see Him as in optically.

Your first post just quoting Genesis, with the Highlighting 'in the image of man he made them' that leads to confusion as to what you mean, of course I think that is your intention. open honest answers would be good. without the vagueness.

Anyhow, trying to figure your posts out makes for passing some time lol.

Kind regards

Phil
Speakin plainly on this site at times, will usually end up at best, banned from the site and at worst offensive to others. I tend to quote verses now in an effort to get my point across.

James 3:2-3
For in many things we offend all. If any man offend not in word, the same is a perfect man, and able also to bridle the whole body.
3Behold, we put bits in the horses' mouths, that they may obey us; and we turn about their whole body.

I figure that I cannot be banned for using mostly verses from the Bible, No matter what spirit that I or anyone else may have to interpret them. I believe that regardless of who's right or wrong, the Spirit of Truth will expose the spirit of error sooner or later.
 

phil36

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Lol I take it you have been close to being banned before then?

I would expect to get banned from here you would need to be showing non Christian Behaviour or talking heresy?
I have been very open with my views on numerous posts and havent been threatened with being banned.
anyhow, bed time here, hope everyone has a blessed night.
Kind regards

Phil
 
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Israel

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Lol I take it you have been close to being banned before then?

I would expect to get banned from here you would need to be showing non Christian Behaviour or talking heresy?
I have been very open with my views on numerous posts and havent been threatened with being banned.
anyhow, bed time here, hope everyone has a blessed night.
Kind regards

Phil

Funny, I recall a man who was killed for pretty much the same reason. May your night be blessed as well.
 
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Hi aspen, i hope you are not offended by this question, some of your post come across as if you could be RC and others as 'Emergent' just curious as to what your leanings are. your bound to know mine by now lol.

Anyhow hope I wasn't imposing, its a harmless question.

Kind regards

Phil.
I am RCC

However, I am also Benedictine - this is the part that you are seeing as emergent - the main tenet of Benedictine is hospitality, which is interpreted as inclusiveness - not adopting other doctirnes, but tolerance of them
 

phil36

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Thanks for the answer aspen. we should have dialogue on justification someday .... only joking lol

Phil
 
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No matter what image I contrive, I have come to realize that God is always bigger, more expansive, more gracious and more loving than I imagined. He is truly an awesome God!
Haha. Good post! I do have an image of him in my mind and it goes something like this:

1. God is both 'male' and 'female' though not in the human sense. Genesis 1:26-27
2. We use 'he' to refer to God as an honorary title of his authority rather than as an accurate description of his gender role.
3. God is the only god. Romans 3:30
4. He is a triune God. Matthew 28:19
5. God the Son is the flesh. God the Father is the head of God the Son and thus makes all of the decisions. God the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God. How these are distinct (to me) from each other is only clear in purpose and not in substance. God the Father made an atoning sacrifice through God the Son. God the Father directs everything God does. God the Holy Spirit gives certain spiritual gifts to people and will resurrect us. Romans 8:11
6. God is strict and demands us to be holy as he is holy. Leviticus 19:2
7. God is incredibly forgiving. Daniel 9:9
8. God is incredibly loving. Romans 8:38-39
9. God punishes the wicked but disciplines the righteous. In both there is suffering, but discipline is never meant to kill.
10. God is a God of War as well as a God of Love. He is many things as we are. We can be both soldiers and lovers. God uses whatever means is appropriate to deal with the situation. Exodus 15:3
11. If you are saved, disobey God and do not repent, then you will be disciplined in this life until you see the error of your ways. If you disobey God and you are unsaved and do not repent then you will be punished in this life or destroyed in the 'next.' Contrary to what some may believe, I believe it works this way 100% of the time. We are saved from hell, but for every sin there is a price to pay whether that is our punishment, discipline or repentant and torn heart. God will not be mocked. Galatians 6:7
12. God is a just God and he even constrains himself to this system of justice. We sold ourselves to Satan by sin. So God has atoned (i.e. made right by paying a price) for us with his own blood. This is the meaning of his sacrifice. God did not wrathfully shed his Son's blood. Satan shed God's blood because God gave Satan his life's blood in payment for our blood. We are bought back if we accept his payment. If not, we remain with Satan.
 
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I would think in God is light and in Him is no darkness, so God would be too bright to look at without unprotected eyes.