When Has God Gathered After He Scattered Without Any Repentance?

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tribesman

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I smell Anti-Semitism and its not good - infact it's a red herring
Ya, that's the typical wording from people who have been deceived: point out their error and they cry "anti-semitism!". Makes only the error worse and hinders them from coming to the truth.
 
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Not very sure about this khazar thingy, but what I am sure about is that this flattering towards and even idolizing of jews and "the state of Israel" is certainly not from God. It is a delusion and heresy that crept in primarily by way of dispensationalism but also through ecumenical efforts. We are to love jews by telling them the truth, which means giving them the gospel. And some jews have repented from unbelief and trusted Christ. And let's be honest and balanced; there are plenty of gentiles in the whole world who also need to repent and trust Christ. We're not into this because of mere worldly politics, it is about making Christ known to the unbelieving and dying world of jews - and gentiles.
Martin Luther said it best when he said, “Why, don’t you know that when a Jew farts, God and the angels dance???!!!”
At any rate, not a single person has been able to point anywhere in Scripture where God gathered Israel after scattering them without them first having repented - which means He had nothing to do with 1948.
 

tribesman

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Martin Luther said it best when he said, “Why, don’t you know that when a Jew farts, God and the angels dance???!!!”
At any rate, not a single person has been able to point anywhere in Scripture where God gathered Israel after scattering them without them first having repented - which means He had nothing to do with 1948.
Correct. It is all big deception and that so-called state of Israel is purely a political issue. Have nothing to do with any fulfillment of prophecies. Even many jews themselves reject the zionists claims.
 
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I smell Anti-Semitism and its not good - infact it's a red herring
Is it possible to criticize a group’s estimation of itself or what others esteem it to be without being “anti-group”?

Was God “anti-Ninevehic” for sending Jonah to condemn their city to destruction? Was Jesus anti-Semitic when He said their father was the devil?
 
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kaylagrl

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Not very sure about this khazar thingy, but what I am sure about is that this flattering towards and even idolizing of jews and "the state of Israel" is certainly not from God. It is a delusion and heresy that crept in primarily by way of dispensationalism but also through ecumenical efforts. We are to love jews by telling them the truth, which means giving them the gospel. And some jews have repented from unbelief and trusted Christ. And let's be honest and balanced; there are plenty of gentiles in the whole world who also need to repent and trust Christ. We're not into this because of mere worldly politics, it is about making Christ known to the unbelieving and dying world of jews - and gentiles.
It's called anti-Semitism, and it's been debunked many, many times over the years.
 

tribesman

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It's called anti-Semitism, and it's been debunked many, many times over the years.
It's a false accusation. Nothing else. You are blinded by ignorance and pride, miss thumbsdowner.
 

tribesman

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Is it possible to criticize a group’s estimation of itself or what others esteem it to be without being “anti-group”?

Was God “anti-Ninevehic” for sending Jonah to condemn their city to destruction? Was Jesus anti-Semitic when He said their father was the devil?
You are talking to people who are very proud and possibly willing to die for their heresies.
 
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kaylagrl

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This is an interesting chat

How can American Christians

Who watch Netflix( AntiChrist programing) and media outlets that literally HATE Christ
Worship Trump
Stand silent against Abortion
Allow Heritics and Pedophiles to give sacraments and lead supposed churches
Support False Prophets

Judge Israel or Jews??

The arrogance is mind boggling

I don't have Netflix, I certainly am NOT silent on abortion ( nor was Trump, why many voted for him) There are many people who aren't Catholic and many Catholics have left their church because of these very issues. And I don't follow any prophet, never watch tv evangelists. I stand with Israel and the Jews ( so did Trump, why many voted for him) Always be careful of generalizations.
 
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kaylagrl

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Ya but how many people doing the same thing are strongly pro-Israel?

The US have a big guilt in "christianizing" every damnable thing possible. Just put the word "christian" before anything and hocus-pocos, it's christian. Soon we see christian satanism.

And so your country is "Christian" is it? Love how people come on here and bash Americans and then you see the country they are from. smh
 

tribesman

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Always be careful of generalizations.
Oh yeah? But never spare any breath to label as "anti-semites" anyone who criticizes the state of Israel or this phony "christian zionist" deception. Zero credibility.
 

Nehemiah6

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Correct. It is all big deception and that so-called state of Israel is purely a political issue. Have nothing to do with any fulfillment of prophecies. Even many jews themselves reject the zionists claims.
Even though secular Zionism rejected their Messiah and Christ (their true Messiah), the establishment of the nation-state of Israel was indeed a fulfillment of prophecy. The Bible makes it quite clear that at the Second Coming of Christ the armies of the Antichrist will come against Jerusalem and Israel.

Of course, Orthodox Jews reject Zionism since Zionism rejects orthodoxy.
 

tribesman

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And so your country is "Christian" is it? Love how people come on here and bash Americans and then you see the country they are from. smh
You don't know the first thing about that and you don't need to mind. You are a very proud woman and because of that you are deceived. Ta ta.
 

tribesman

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Even though secular Zionism rejected their Messiah and Christ (their true Messiah), the establishment of the nation-state of Israel was indeed a fulfillment of prophecy. The Bible makes it quite clear that at the Second Coming of Christ the armies of the Antichrist will come against Jerusalem and Israel.

Of course, Orthodox Jews reject Zionism since Zionism rejects orthodoxy.
Jewish tradition warns that commitment to "sacred soil" without faith in the living God is a form of idolatry.

The Orthodox jews are more right, but they, too, are of course just as Christ-rejecting.

"Christian zionism" is an oxymoron and a mental disease.
 

Nehemiah6

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"Christian zionism" is an oxymoron and a mental disease.
I agree. Christians cannot in good conscience support Zionism. By the same token Christians must stand against all attacks on Israel, which are all grounded in hatred for the Jews. The whole world is essentially against Israel, and we can be thankful that Donald Trump stood with Israel and made Jerusalem its capital. Christians must also understand two things very clearly: (1) God is not finished with the Jews and Israel, and (2) many Messianic Jews are in fact Christians and working to evangelize non-believing Jews.
 
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You are talking to people who are very proud and possibly willing to die for their heresies.
If they would only realize that “Abraham’s seed” are those who currently, at this time, in this moment, presently belong to Christ.

The pope claims to be “Jesus Christ hidden under veil of flesh”...the Koran says God has no Son...the “Jews” hate Jesus so much they’re making plans to sacrifice lambs in a rebuilt temple...but not one word in defense of the Saviour by the PC cyber-police condemning such “anti-Christianism”.

But, simply suggest there’s a problem with “Israel” in prophecy, and whoa! Makes you wonder who’s side they’re on...
 
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Even though secular Zionism rejected their Messiah and Christ (their true Messiah), the establishment of the nation-state of Israel was indeed a fulfillment of prophecy. The Bible makes it quite clear that at the Second Coming of Christ the armies of the Antichrist will come against Jerusalem and Israel.

Of course, Orthodox Jews reject Zionism since Zionism rejects orthodoxy.
Zechariah 14 is an unfulfilled prophecy because Israel failed to meet the condition for the promises of it.

Now, the church is Israel and the battle is no longer local and literal, but spiritual and worldwide.
 

Journeyman

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If you are in the body of Christ, you will obviously have no need, your location will be in heaven.

But there will still be unsaved gentiles during those 1000 years
The thousand years is like a day to God. A day in which he made a new man of Jew and gentile in Christ.
 

Nehemiah6

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Now, the church is Israel and the battle is no longer local and literal, but spiritual and worldwide.
That goes against the bulk of Bible prophecy. If the Church is Israel, then the land of Israel would belong to the Church. But since God promised Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob that the twelve tribes would inherit that land, we see its future fulfillment in the book of Ezekiel. At the same time heavenly New Jerusalem is the eternal home of the Church.