Who is the Bride & who is the groom?

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Rev 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

Rev 21:2 And I John saw the holy city, NEW JERUSALEM, coming down from God out of heaven, PREPARED AS A BRIDE adorned for her husband.

Rev 21:3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, behold, the TABERNACLE of GOD is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.

The holy city that came down from heaven is PREPARED AS a BRIDE. What does a bride look like when she's adorned? She is dressed in white. White is the colour of purity.

When holy jerusalem comes down from heaven to earth, this means that the earth has been made perfect and holy and God himself will be here on earth. We, the chosen ones, will be the ones invited to the uniting of holy jerusalem and this earth. This earth will be as heaven. We have to make sure that we are invited to this occasion.

Not as what the world has taught us, that we are the bride of Christ. This is wrong. Because we are the invited guests.

Once the earth has been melted down and purified, Holy Jerusalem will be united with earth. This is the wedding. We are the guests and will witness this. Now we can see God eye to eye.


Who is the bride?
Who is the groom?
 
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Jesus is the bridegroom. When John the Baptist was asked about Jesus' increasing popularity, and his own declining ministry, John said that the "friend of the bridegroom, which standeth and heareth him, rejoiceth greatly because of the bridegroom's voice: this my joy therefore is fulfilled." (John 3:29)

New Jerusalem is the bride. New Jerusalem is not just a city, but is the congregation of those who have held the testimony of Jesus Christ, and were full of oil (the Holy Spirit), when the Bridegroom called.

REVELATION 18:23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.

REVELATION 21:9 And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife.

REVELATION 22:17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.
 
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OH MY.GENTILE THATS SOOO TRUE.
 
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quote=Gentile;416856]Jesus is the bridegroom. When John the Baptist was asked about Jesus' increasing popularity, and his own declining ministry, John said that the "friend of the bridegroom, which standeth and heareth him, rejoiceth greatly because of the bridegroom's voice: this my joy therefore is fulfilled." (John 3:29)
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The word bridegroom is not literal. It is symbolic.
Jesus was also called the lamb. Is he is a lamb? No
He was called a sheperd, is he a shepeard? No
He was called the Rock. Is he a rock? No
He was called the bread of life, is he bread? No
He was called the morning star, is he a planet or a star? No

These words are all symbolic.
Jesus is also called the groom. does he really need to get married? No.


Jesus is pictured as a groom, but he is not a literal groom. Jesus and his Father are one.

Jesus speaks everything that God tells him too. Thats the voice we are hearing. Gods voice through his Word, Jesus. It all God speaking and all leads to God.

John 12:49 For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say (the voice) and what I should speak.

Everything belongs to God. Even Jesus will submit to God in the end & everything will go back to God. God is the centre of everything.


New Jerusalem is the bride. New Jerusalem is not just a city, but is the congregation of those who have held the testimony of Jesus Christ, and were full of oil (the Holy Spirit), when the Bridegroom called.

REVELATION 18:23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.

REVELATION 21:9 And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife.
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Yes but the very next verse explains who the Lambs wife is;

Rev 21:10 And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and SHOWED me THAT GREAT CITY, THE HOLY JERUSALEM descending out of heaven from God.

She's also adorned
Rev 21:11 Having the glory of God: and her light was like unto a STONE most PRECIOUS, even like a JASPER STONE, clear as CRYSTAL;



REVELATION 22:17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.[/quote]
 
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As a king, Jesus will have a queen. In the book of Revelation she is called the "Lamb's wife" (Revelation 21:9), the city "New Jerusalem" (Revelation 21:2), and "the bride" (Revelation 22:17).

Just like the prophet Joseph took a Gentile (non-Jewish) bride after he was made ruler of Egypt, so Jesus will take a Gentile Bride (called the Church) as the ruler of heaven and earth.

As a king, Jesus will have subjects. in the book of Revelation, nations and kings will walk in the light of the glory of God (Revelation 21:24). The prophet John the Baptist called himself the "friend of the bridegroom" (John 3:29) identifying his role not as part of the "Lamb's wife", but as part of another honored group of people: friends of God.

As a king, Jesus will be a judge. Jesus said, "And, Behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his word shall be." (Revelation 22:12)

Ten virgins went out to meet the Lord, all sanctified, all holy, every one of them sanctified. Five were dilatory and let their lights go out. Five had oil in their lamps. "And, behold the Bridegroom cometh."

And the five that had oil in their lamps went into the wedding supper. And the others was left outside , where they were weeping, and wailing, and gnashing of teeth. Be ready, for you don't know what minute the Lord comes.

What is the Oil represented in the Bible? Holy Spirit.
 
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MATTHEW 9:15

And Jesus said unto them, Can the children of the bridechamber mourn, as long as the bridegroom is with them? but the days will come, when the bridegroom shall be taken from them, and then shall they fast.

MATTHEW 25:1-13

Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom. And five of them were wise, and five were foolish. They that were foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them: But the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps.

While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept. And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him. Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps. And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out.

But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves. And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.

Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us. But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not. Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.
 
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THATS SOOO TRUE GENTILE
 
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journey41 said:
Rev 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

Rev 21:2 And I John saw the holy city, NEW JERUSALEM, coming down from God out of heaven, PREPARED AS A BRIDE adorned for her husband.

Rev 21:3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, behold, the TABERNACLE of GOD is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.

The holy city that came down from heaven is PREPARED AS a BRIDE. What does a bride look like when she's adorned? She is dressed in white. White is the colour of purity.

When holy jerusalem comes down from heaven to earth, this means that the earth has been made perfect and holy and God himself will be here on earth. We, the chosen ones, will be the ones invited to the uniting of holy jerusalem and this earth. This earth will be as heaven. We have to make sure that we are invited to this occasion.

Not as what the world has taught us, that we are the bride of Christ. This is wrong. Because we are the invited guests.

Once the earth has been melted down and purified, Holy Jerusalem will be united with earth. This is the wedding. We are the guests and will witness this. Now we can see God eye to eye.


Who is the bride?
Who is the groom?
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wow,journey you amaze me, i am flabbergasted.but you will cause a revolution in the churches. good one;the truth must come out sometime:
 
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Gentile said:
MATTHEW 9:15

And Jesus said unto them, Can the children of the bridechamber mourn, as long as the bridegroom is with them? but the days will come, when the bridegroom shall be taken from them, and then shall they fast.

MATTHEW 25:1-13

Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom. And five of them were wise, and five were foolish. They that were foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them: But the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps.

While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept. And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him. Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps. And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out.

But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves. And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.

Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us. But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not. Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.
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bride;groom;virgins;oil;lamps: these are all symbolic,cant take it litteral?
it is speaking in parables,open your eyes.
heavenly jerusalem will come down,and be united with the earthly jerusalem,when the earthly jerusalem is made perfect after the earth is melted and purified.then God himself will be on earth to,and we can see him face to face.make sure you are invited to the marriage.

''wakeup''.
 
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"For the Lord Himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord."
1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

THE RAPTURE. I BELIEVE THIS TO BE THE BRIDE.
 
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"...and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the the other." Matthew 24:30-31

the bride.....

and the Bride and the Groom WILL BE TOGETHER. happy ever...forever :D

God Bless all.
 
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Wake Up,

Could you point to the scriptures that say heavely Jerusalem will unite with earthly Jerusalem?
 
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Gentile said:
"For the Lord Himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord."
1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

THE RAPTURE. I BELIEVE THIS TO BE THE BRIDE.
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how do you explain rev.9:9 and 14? why are these multitudes coming out of great tribulations? when you say, they will be raptured: if we are the bride; who are they, that are invited to the wedding? please give clear answer.

''wakeup''.
 
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Gentile said:
"For the Lord Himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord."
1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

THE RAPTURE. I BELIEVE THIS TO BE THE BRIDE.
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you are confusing it with the second coming , bro.
newjerusalem coming down ,will happen 1000yrs later.
after all is finished, and purified.

''wakeup''.
 
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wakeup bride;groom;virgins;oil;lamps: these are all symbolic,cant take it litteral?
it is speaking in parables,open your eyes.

Jesus was not wrong in his teaching, but intentionally said hard words so that the people could not receive or understand. Jesus specifically said that his teaching was such that some would turn away: And he said, Unto you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God: but to others in parables; that seeing they might not see, and hearing they might not understand. (Luke 8:10)

God has never asked for understanding, only faith: For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom: But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness; (I Cor 1:22, 23)

The Rapture will happen (I believe). But not everyone.

God Bless.


wakeup

how do you explain rev.9:9 and 14? why are these multitudes coming out of great tribulations?


This is the part of the discription of the Locus thats on its way to torment those unbelievers still on earth...

And they had breastplates, as it were breastplates of iron; and the sound of their wings was as the sound of chariots of many horses running to battle.rev9:9
And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power was to hurt men five months.rev9:10

if you read from Rev 9:1-10 it should be clear God willing.

wakeup

and 14? why are these multitudes coming out of great tribulations?

Rev 9:v14= I hope this helps you...It really does speak for itself. Read it all really from

One woe is past; and, behold, there come two woes more hereafter. rev9:12

And the sixth angel sounded, and I heard a voice from the four horns of the golden altar which is before God, rev9:13
Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates. rev9:14 And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men. rev9:15

God bless my brother.
 
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The New Jerusalem is the promised land for all those in the covenant.
 
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Gentile said:
wakeup bride;groom;virgins;oil;lamps: these are all symbolic,cant take it litteral?
it is speaking in parables,open your eyes.

Jesus was not wrong in his teaching, but intentionally said hard words so that the people could not receive or understand. Jesus specifically said that his teaching was such that some would turn away: And he said, Unto you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God: but to others in parables; that seeing they might not see, and hearing they might not understand. (Luke 8:10)

God has never asked for understanding, only faith: For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom: But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness; (I Cor 1:22, 23)

The Rapture will happen (I believe). But not everyone.

God Bless.


im sorry pall, but you are all over the place,going topsy turvy.
the 7trumpets: is the wrath of God; the7th tumpet is the second coming.
the 5th trumpet: all the angels that was in prison, was let loose and they have a king over them,his name is abadon,or apolyon.rev.9:1.11(the angel of the bottomless pit.)
but we are going away from the iriginal subject. re, the groom.
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''wakeup ''

how do you explain rev.9:9 and 14? why are these multitudes coming out of great tribulations?


This is the part of the discription of the Locus thats on its way to torment those unbelievers still on earth...

And they had breastplates, as it were breastplates of iron; and the sound of their wings was as the sound of chariots of many horses running to battle.rev9:9
And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power was to hurt men five months.rev9:10

if you read from Rev 9:1-10 it should be clear God willing.

wakeup

and 14? why are these multitudes coming out of great tribulations?

Rev 9:v14= I hope this helps you...It really does speak for itself. Read it all really from

One woe is past; and, behold, there come two woes more hereafter. rev9:12

And the sixth angel sounded, and I heard a voice from the four horns of the golden altar which is before God, rev9:13
Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates. rev9:14 And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men. rev9:15

God bless my brother.
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thank you for your interest bro.
 
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Gentile said:
wakeup bride;groom;virgins;oil;lamps: these are all symbolic,cant take it litteral?
it is speaking in parables,open your eyes.

Jesus was not wrong in his teaching, but intentionally said hard words so that the people could not receive or understand. Jesus specifically said that his teaching was such that some would turn away: And he said, Unto you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God: but to others in parables; that seeing they might not see, and hearing they might not understand. (Luke 8:10)

God has never asked for understanding, only faith: For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom: But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness; (I Cor 1:22, 23)

The Rapture will happen (I believe). But not everyone.

God Bless.

this is when the king of the east (the medes)will come across the euphrates to attac israel.these evil angels will lead. you keep on asking questions and you will learn heaps.
all for the good.
wakeup

how do you explain rev.9:9 and 14? why are these multitudes coming out of great tribulations?


This is the part of the discription of the Locus thats on its way to torment those unbelievers still on earth...

And they had breastplates, as it were breastplates of iron; and the sound of their wings was as the sound of chariots of many horses running to battle.rev9:9
And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power was to hurt men five months.rev9:10

if you read from Rev 9:1-10 it should be clear God willing.

wakeup

and 14? why are these multitudes coming out of great tribulations?

Rev 9:v14= I hope this helps you...It really does speak for itself. Read it all really from

One woe is past; and, behold, there come two woes more hereafter. rev9:12

And the sixth angel sounded, and I heard a voice from the four horns of the golden altar which is before God, rev9:13
Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates. rev9:14 And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men. rev9:15

God bless my brother.
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thank you pall, lets go back to the original topic
 
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Wake Up,

Could you point to the scriptures that say heavely Jerusalem will unite with earthly Jerusalem?
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rev21:3 the tabernacle(tent,symbolic) of God is with men; God dwelling on earth,we will see him face to face.everything is accomplished, done: new interesting things will happen,very exiting. regards to you .

''wakeup''.
 
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