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Tumnus

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Family:

Thank you all for answering this for me as well!
 
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Tumnus

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Hi TUMNUS. U av no idea how happy I am 2 er frm u. I'm a begginininnnner o On computer. Haha
Hi stone! Thanks for starting this thread! You are doing great on the computer!
 
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Forgiven66

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I have to agree with Resurrection33, Superdave and Crazy4GODword, this is speaking of John the Baptist.

Malachi 3:1
BEHOLD, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before Me: and the Lord, whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to His Temple, even the Messenger of the Covenant, whom ye delight in: behold He shall come, saith the LORD of Hosts.
Jesus is the Messenger of the Covenant (Hebrews 8:5-13). And this passage in Malachi 3:1. is referring also to Isaiah 40:3-8. A interesting fact in the Jewish Tanakh Malachi 3:1 is the beginning of Chapter 3 and what we have in the Christian Old Testament as Malachi 4:5-6, is in the Tanakh Malachi 3:22-23. so this chapter in the Tanakh opens with the Jesus Christ and John the Baptist and IMO end with Jesus Christ and John the Baptist.

As for your question as to why does Malachi say earth, instead of land. Earth is correct but so is land. For God woud destroy the land, and the earth which the Jewish nation was part of, til the time of the Gentile was fulfilled (Luke 21:24), for Jerusalem as of around 1967 is again a part of Israel. Because Jesus was rejected by the Jews and they did not accept the message of Elijah (Matthew 11:12-19) God's wrath would be poured out on them (I Thessalonians 2:14-16). God would destroy the Jewish Temple for after Christ sacrifice the Temple in Jerusalem was no longer God's, for we as believers have receive the blessing of receiving the Holy Spirit thus making us the True Temple of God (I Corinthians 3:16; 6:19-20). So Christ Jesus can not come to the Jewish Temple anymore. For after Christ sacrifice for our sins there remaineth no more sacrifice for sin (Hebrews 10:14, 18). And because the Jews continue to offer the Old Covenant sacrifice after Christ Resurrection God's Wrath was to be poured out on them (Hebrews 10:28-31).
Daniel 9:27 (The Tanakh)
During one week He will make a firm covenant with many. For half a week He will put a stop to the sacrifice and the meal offering. At the corner [of the altar] will be an appalling abomination until the decreed destruction will be poured down upon the appalling thing.
Notice Daniel said at the corner {of the altar} will be an appaling abomination until the decreed destruction will be poured down. The altar where the Jews still offer animal sacrifices before 70AD, for something God through His Son had finished once and for all (John 19:30). This would truly be an abomination to say an animal blood was Just as good as Jesus' Blood, would it not.

My apologies for the long post.
 
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i believe this was manifested in a man call William Branham.born 1909 kentucky in America
 
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forgive me Forgiven 66 whats your point?
 
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which is revelation the 7th messanger in Reve 10;7
 
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Matthew 11
9 But what did you go out to see? A prophet? Yes, I say to you, and more than a prophet.
10 For this is he of whom it is written:
‘ Behold, I send My messenger before Your face,
Who will prepare Your way before You.’
11 “Assuredly, I say to you, among those born of women there has not risen one greater than John the Baptist; but he who is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.
12 And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffers violence, and the violent take it by force.
13 For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John.
14 And if you are willing to receive it, he is Elijah who is to come.
15 He who has ears to hear, let him hear!
 
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if its John,as u say.i know he fulfield d part where it says FATHERS TO THE CHILDREN as it states in Malach 3. but the baptist never fulfield the part CHILDREN TO THE FATHERS.
 
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Penticostal fathers that is.
 
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the 2 witnesses r 2 d jews.to gather them . NOT d Gentiles . WHO IS D MESSANGER 4 D GENTLE BRIDE CHURCH WHO GOES UP IN D RAPTURE? as in REVE 3 v 14 to d end of that chapter
 
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if its John,as u say.i know he fulfield d part where it says FATHERS TO THE CHILDREN as it states in Malach 3. but the baptist never fulfield the part CHILDREN TO THE FATHERS.
Jesus said if you are willing to receive it, John the Baptist is Elijah to come.

Are you willing to receive it?
 
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Journey 41 . what u saying brother.that Elijah with MOSES is to DANIELS PEOPLE
 
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shawgga what is d terrible day of d LORD? ACCORDING TO MALACHI 4 V 5 AN 6
 
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Shwagga

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Let me ask you, what major event, the most important event in history of all history which was both dreadful and great took place in the first century?

What did John the Baptist proclaim?

Who was he preparing the way for?
 
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Shwagga

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I am not against the idea of this having a double application, I think it fits in well with the final great judgment.

Take care.

God bless you.
 
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yes Shwagga it does have a double application. and its very important4 d day we are livinging in,cause d faith which was once delivered to the saints has to be restored 4 d bride of Christ have in them 2Peter 1v5 were we all must come into the unity of d faith.
 
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thefaith was buried through d ages . then Luther had a message d just shall live by faith then John westley mess was Santify by d word then 1906 seymour at azuza street out pouring of d Holy ghost. every age has an messager reve chp 2. WHO IS THIS AGE 7TH MESSANGER. PAUL WAS D MESSANGER 4 D EPHESIAN AGE. the 1st messanger
 
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there r 10 virgins. 5 wise ,5 foolish, only d wise made it in to d MARRIGE. WHO SAID BEHOLD D BRIDE GROOM COMMETH? not BEHOLD D LAMB OF GOD THAT TAKETH AWAY D SINS OF D WORLD.
 
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Scotth1960

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[quote=stone;412237]Malachi 4. V5~6 explain to me plz[/quote]
In the OSB, Malachi 3 and Malachi 4 are all in Malachi 3. So Malachi 4:5-6 is Malachi 3:22-23. In the OSB (Orthodox Study Bible) there is an additional verse, Malachi 3:24, which is MISSING from the ESV version of the Bible.
See: "Be in remembrance of the Law of Moses Mys servant as I commanded him, its statutes and judgments, at Horeb for all Israel." A significant difference between the Septuagint Greek OT (LXX), and the Masoretic text behind the ESV and the KJV, I believe. I don't know. I haven't checked the KJV, but I believe that it ends the same was as the ESV. From memory only.
In Erie PA Scott R. Harrington PS Yes, this verse refers to a type of Elijah, John the Baptist, who came before the "last days" of the Jewish OT era. 40 years, one generation after Jesus, this Jewish era was completed in 70 AD with the final destruction of the OT Jewish temple. Prophecy seems to indicate the actual OT Elijah will return and come again into Jerusalem before the very end of the age to preach Christ to the Jewish people. In Erie PA Scott