Why Covid 19 When We Have Healing Power

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shittim

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Why wouldn't the adversary place such people in this world? He always has attempted to pervert the created order and work of the Father, the Holy Spirit was given to guide us in all truth, ALL truth. If we are taken in, we have failed to seek and receive His truth.
Problems down here are never from His end, He has given us every tool we need to discern truth.
blessings
 

TheLearner

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Exactly
You stole my thunder.
He came to my mind also.

Why do the cessationist make such fools of themselves?

Because they listen to men.
Not God

Makes sense ...a powerless gospel originating in the powerless
Stephen was a Deacon thus he was given authority.

1 Timothy 3:8-13
Deacons
Deacons, similarly, should be men of serious outlook and sincere conviction. They too should be temperate and not greedy for money. They should hold the faith as a sacred trust, with complete sincerity. Let them serve a period of probation first, and only serve as deacons if they prove satisfactory. Their wives should share their serious outlook, and must be women of discretion and self-control—women who can be trusted. Deacons should be men with only one wife, able to control their children and manage their own households properly. Those who do well as deacons earn for themselves a certain legitimate standing, as well as gaining confidence and freedom in the Christian faith.

Philippians 1:1-2
Paul and Timothy, true servants of Jesus Christ, to the bishops, deacons and all true Christians at Philippi, grace and peace from God our Father and Jesus Christ the Lord!

Romans 16:1-2
Personal greetings and messages
I want this letter to introduce to you Phoebe, our sister, a deaconess of the Church at Cenchrea. Please give her a Christian welcome, and any assistance with her work that she may need. She has herself been of great assistance to many, not excluding myself.

Acts 6:1-4
The first deacons are chosen
About this time, when the number of disciples was continually increasing, the Greeks complained that in the daily distribution of food the Hebrew widows were being given preferential treatment. The twelve summoned the whole body of the disciples together and said, “It is not right that we should have to neglect preaching the Word of God in order to look after the accounts. You, our brothers, must look round and pick out from your number seven men of good reputation who are both practical and spiritually-minded and we will put them in charge of this matter. Then we shall devote ourselves whole-heartedly to prayer and the ministry of the Word.”
 

TheLearner

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I believe God heals; yes, God heals, not humans. Actually, genuine miracles by humans hands are very rare, even in the scriptures. We seem to think that's all people did was go around healing and performing miracles in God's name, and that somehow we're missing the boat. Miracles are the exception not the rule. Now we have every nitwit with the gumption to start a ministry going around performing "miracles." Did God suddenly change the way He does things, or did we change it for Him?

"Nevertheless, when the Son of Man comes, will he find faith on earth?"—Luke 18:8

Faith, not miracles. ;)
1 Corinthians 1:22
For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom:
 

TheLearner

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Why wouldn't the adversary place such people in this world? He always has attempted to pervert the created order and work of the Father, the Holy Spirit was given to guide us in all truth, ALL truth. If we are taken in, we have failed to seek and receive His truth.
Problems down here are never from His end, He has given us every tool we need to discern truth.
blessings
The text you are referring to in the gospels was addressed only to the apostles.
 

Blik

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I'd agree except the life span of the average westerner has increased over the centuries. There are many reasons, but it is obvious that bad food is not an issue. Over consumption surely is a bigger problem. And the US diet is not the same as Europe or, for that matter Australia. Just one example: bread in the US has 6 times as much sugar as in Australia.

American Indians were nearly wiped out by diseases introduced by European settlers, sometimes deliberately. Their diet was entirely natural. It did not help their immune systems.
The average length of life has increased, we have more ways to fight the illnesses that come to us. We learned that the trans fat in Crisco killed, for instance. But that does not mean that huge numbers of people are feeling ill with diabetes directly caused by processed white carbs. Science is helping us live longer, but we are not listening to what science is telling us about eating in a way to make us feel healthy and well.