Why isnt the holocaust in the bible

[RedTent]

The story, prophecy and history of the Jewish people is all through the bible. There have been many times that there has been a holocaust of the Jewish people. In 134 thousands were killed by the Romans. Luther, in his later years, suggested it was a good thing to kill rabbis if they taught for they were Christ killers. But the happenings in our world about the time of the holocaust ushered in many things that the bible talks about.

If you look at prophecy and the times post holocaust, you see it ushered in the return of the Jews to the Holy Land.

For 2,000 years after Christ we read prophecy but did not see it, now we do see it. Almost at the same time as the holocaust was the finding of the dead sea scrolls. These scrolls opened up understanding of ancient language that gave understanding of ancient biblical times. This has had a profound impact on understanding the OT that was lost with our modern culture. The outgrowth of this is more interest in God the Father as His principles are explained in the OT. Because Christ was a way for us to grow beyond what was possible in OT, it has also opened up a deeper understanding of Christ because we can learn more of the Father. We could not grow well with the Son until we understood the Father who was the basis of what the Son is. Because this is sifting down to us slowly from the men who have studied the scrolls and learning it has opened up, it has not reached all Christians, yet.

I think that scripture tells us a lot about out world happenings since the holocaust.

 

[Abiding]

Ive never seen a thing that the dead sea scrolls revealed to us especially
about the return of the jews.

More interest in God the Father? The dead sea scrolls did this? To who? and how?

Are you saying for 2000 years we couldnt grow with the Son without something
from the dead sea scrolls?

Wow can you share this with the forum? Can you explain sifting down to us and what is being sifted down?

 

[RedTent]

Ive never seen a thing that the dead sea scrolls revealed to us especially
about the return of the jews.

More interest in God the Father? The dead sea scrolls did this? To who? and how?

Are you saying for 2000 years we couldnt grow with the Son without something
from the dead sea scrolls?

Wow can you share this with the forum? Can you explain sifting down to us and what is being sifted down?

Oh my!! We are talking about the holocaust. I think the holocaust was one of the happenings of a whole new era, one the bible talks a lot about, especially in prophecy. Part of this new era is the return of the Jews to the Holy Land the holocaust brought about and the learning the deep sea scrolls opened up.

I am not one of the people who studied these scrolls, I only have read what is said about it. They say that they can read ancient language now, so they can learn what was lost over time.

I said for 2,000 years we didn't witness prophecy happening. I didn't say that for 2,000 years we couldn't grow with the Son.

If you haven't read history books by any of the scholars who studied ancient culture and wrote about the OT that tells of these people I don't know how I can explain how it opens up understanding of OT writings. I can say when someone knows the way the people written about lived and believed it makes what is said about them clearer. Does that help? Of that Christ was told of all through the OT, but as a shadow of the man who went to the cross. By understanding Christ as the OT tells, we can better understand the way the cross did and didn't change things.

I hope this clears up what I am saying a little.

But then, perhaps I am not the one unique human who knows all and understands all perfectly????? I have done hours and hours and hours of study, and this is what I have come up with. I have done my best to stay strictly to scripture, or learn from people who are known as reliable and love the Lord. I like them to be professors of good theological colleges.

 

[Lifeinchrist]

The Holocaust is mentioned, but it is not allways obvious what the scripture says, and what it is acctually talking about.

 

[Therapon]

shalom, iv always wondered about that, one of the worse tragedies to the jewish people. Im just curious about it is all...

Oh the Holocase is in Scripture alright and here it is . . .

Jeremiah 30:3-8 "For, lo, the days come, says Jehovah, that I will turn the captivity of My people Israel and Judah, says Jehovah; and I will cause them to return to the land that I gave to their fathers, and they shall possess it (the new nation of Israel in 1948). And these are the Words that Jehovah spoke concerning Israel and concerning Judah: For so says Jehovah, We have heard a sound of trembling, of dread, and not of peace. Ask now and see whether a male is giving birth? Why do I see every man with his hands on his loins, like a woman giving birth, and all faces are turned to paleness? (naked Jewish men covering their private parts as they walked naked into the Nazi gas chambers) Alas! For that day is great, for none is like it. And it is a time of Jacob's trouble, but he will be saved out of it (the Holocaust). For it shall be in that day, says Jehovah of Hosts, I will break his yoke from your neck, and I will burst your bonds. And strangers will not again enslave him." (The Jews back in the Holy Land in their own nation for the first time in 2573 years.)

 

[Lifeinchrist]

That was a good scripture Therapon.

 

[RickyZ]

I've heard some make cases for prophcies foretelling the holocaust, but I'm not convinced. Mostly.

I'm curious, has anyone here ever visited the holocaust sites? Did it have an effect on your Christian walk?

 

[zone]

Oh the Holocase is in Scripture alright and here it is . . .

Jeremiah 30:3-8 "For, lo, the days come, says Jehovah, that I will turn the captivity of My people Israel and Judah, says Jehovah; and I will cause them to return to the land that I gave to their fathers, and they shall possess it (the new nation of Israel in 1948). And these are the Words that Jehovah spoke concerning Israel and concerning Judah: For so says Jehovah, We have heard a sound of trembling, of dread, and not of peace. Ask now and see whether a male is giving birth? Why do I see every man with his hands on his loins, like a woman giving birth, and all faces are turned to paleness? (naked Jewish men covering their private parts as they walked naked into the Nazi gas chambers) Alas! For that day is great, for none is like it. And it is a time of Jacob's trouble, but he will be saved out of it (the Holocaust). For it shall be in that day, says Jehovah of Hosts, I will break his yoke from your neck, and I will burst your bonds. And strangers will not again enslave him." (The Jews back in the Holy Land in their own nation for the first time in 2573 years.)

oh stop ellis.

 

[zone]

The Hiroshima prefecture health department estimated that, of the people who died on the day of the explosion, 60% died from flash or flame burns, 30% from falling debris and 10% from other causes. During the following months, large numbers died from the effect of burns, radiation sickness, and other injuries, compounded by illness.

Atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia < click

catholic cities.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

shalom,

iv always wondered about that, one of the worse tragedies to the jewish people. Im just curious about it is all...

actually you could say it is in scripture. just not in detail.

we are told in Lev 26 that is isreal does not obey Gods commands.at some point, they will be removed from their land, their city and temple utterly destroyed. and they will be scattered throughout the gentile nations. During this time. the gentiles will hate them, treat them badly, and do all kinds of things, until they repent. when God will return them, and punish the gentiles who treated them badly under their care. the holocost was just one of those events which happened because of this. we should not be suprised with the hatred of the jews, Scripture tells us it will happen.

which means all those people trying to bring peace to the middle east. ain't gonna happen. These people do not know Gods word. or they would not try

 

[tribesman]

The Hiroshima prefecture health department estimated that, of the people who died on the day of the explosion, 60% died from flash or flame burns, 30% from falling debris and 10% from other causes. During the following months, large numbers died from the effect of burns, radiation sickness, and other injuries, compounded by illness.

Atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia < click

catholic cities.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

so the US bombed herishima just to bring democracy to them? wow! I don't get this!

 

[Spokenpassage]

The Hiroshima prefecture health department estimated that, of the people who died on the day of the explosion, 60% died from flash or flame burns, 30% from falling debris and 10% from other causes. During the following months, large numbers died from the effect of burns, radiation sickness, and other injuries, compounded by illness.

Atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia < click

catholic cities.

Radiation effects still effect the next generations, from those who went through it...

 

[JaumeJ]

There are the blessings and the curses. The curses came upon the Children of Israel more than once. It cannot be proven or refuted the holocaust is not just one more of the curses. Many times mention is made of a remnant surviving, and indeed it was just a remnant which survived Hitler's madness.

 

[JaumeJ]

Zinadine or Zizou or
zidane, one of my favorite people in the world of soccer. Great guy.............

 

[danschance]

shalom,

iv always wondered about that, one of the worse tragedies to the Jewish people. Im just curious about it is all...

I assume you mean why does the bible not prophecy about the Holocaust of the Jews at the hands of the Nazis? I haven't a clue. However, just 3 years after the Nazis were roundly defeated in 1945 The Nation of Israel was born. That is something interesting to think about. Do you think that the Nation of Israel would of been born had the Holocaust not occurred?

 

[Therapon]

Connecting The Dots . . .

1. The 10 tribes of Israel were taken captive by Shalmaneser the Assyrian in 725-722 B. C. and dispersed into the Caucasus Mountains region.

Deuteronomy 4:27 “And the LORD shall scatter you among the nations, and ye shall be left few in number among the heathen, whither the LORD shall lead you.”

Amos 9:8-9 “Behold, the eyes of the Lord GOD are upon the sinful kingdom (Israel), and I will destroy it from off the face of the earth; saving that I will not utterly destroy the house of Jacob, saith the LORD. For, lo, I will command, and I will sift the house of Israel among all nations (so the ten tribes were dispersed among the Gentiles), like as corn is sifted in a sieve, yet shall not the least grain fall upon the earth.” (But none of them will be lost)

2. Just analyzed documents from the former USSR indicates that in the following centuries, a large unidentified body of light-skinned blue-eyed people migrated from South of the Caucuses into Kingdom of Khazaria.

3. During the Islamic expansion of the 8th century, a Moslem army under Abdel Rahman tried to invade Europe through a pass in the Caucasus, but Khazarian armies defeated him. Were it not for the bulwark of Khazaria, Christian Europe could have fallen to Islam from the East.

4. Not wanting religious wars to divide his country, the King of the Khazars ordered three missionaries to appear before his court: a Christian monk, a Jewish priest and a Moslem Imam.

5. After carefully listening to the arguments of each, the King of the Khazars chose Judaism to be the state religion!

6. Later, the people in Khazaria clinging to Judaism emigrated to Europe, where they became known as Ashkenazi Jews.

Leviticus 26:33 “And I will . . . draw out a sword after you.”

7. Then came Hitler and the Holocaust, in which the Nazis in their death camps like Auschwitz-Birkenau, Buchenwald, Treblinka, and in over 1000 ghettos, tried but failed to exterminate the Ashkenazi Jews.

Deuteronomy 4:30-31 “When thou art in tribulation, and all these things are come upon thee, even in the latter days, if thou turn to the LORD thy God, and shalt be obedient unto his voice; (For the LORD thy God is a merciful God he will not forsake thee, neither destroy thee, nor forget the covenant of thy fathers which he sware unto them.”

8. After the Holocaust, what was left of the Ashkenazi Jews fled Europe and immigrated to the holy land.

Jeremiah 29:14 “And I will be found of you, saith the LORD: and I will turn away your captivity, and I will gather you from all the nations, and from all the places whither I have driven you, saith the LORD; and I will bring you again into the place whence I caused you to be carried away captive.”

9. In 1948 A.D., the new sovereign nation of Israel was established by what were primarily Ashkenazi Jews. Then in 1967, by those same ten “lost” tribes, Jerusalem was finally freed of Gentile control for the first time in 2573 years!

I'm posting this here because it fits, but I'm also going yo start a new thread with it.

 

[zone]

oh ellis.
the 10 tribes weren't geographically lost.
if they were the First Advent is meaningless.
stop with the gaps.

if you're going to talk about Talmudism and who converted in 700AD do so.
nothing to do with Israel.

 

[Trax]

shalom,

iv always wondered about that, one of the worse tragedies to the jewish people. Im just curious about it is all...

"One of" is correct. Not the worst though. That is still to come. Its called a time of Jacob's trouble.

 

[Scribe]

I am not convinced that it is not in prophecy. There are many prophecies that talk about horrific judgments. Some of these scholars disagree on.