Why Satan loves Replacement Theology

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LW97

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Replacement Theology teaches that the church has replaced Israel and that all the promises that were supposed to go to Israel now fall to the church. This is a complete lie, and I will provide scripture that shows that God has never forsaken Israel, and never will. You also may have noticed that I chose to publish this on May 14, the day Israel was reborn as a nation.

Scripture about God’s promise to preserve Israel forever

Genesis 13:14-15 --->

14 And the Lord said unto Abram, after that Lot was separated from him, Lift up now thine eyes, and look from the place where thou art northward, and southward, and eastward, and westward:

15 For all the land which thou seest, to thee will I give it, and to thy seed for ever.

Genesis 17:7 --->

And I will establish my covenant between me and thee and thy seed after thee in their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee.

2 Samuel 7:24 --->

For thou hast confirmed to thyself thy people Israel to be a people unto thee for ever: and thou, Lord, art become their God.

1 Kings 10:9 --->

Blessed be the Lord thy God, which delighted in thee, to set thee on the throne of Israel: because the Lord loved Israel for ever, therefore made he thee king, to do judgment and justice.

1 Chronicles 17:22 --->

For thy people Israel didst thou make thine own people for ever; and thou, Lord, becamest their God.

2 Chronicles 9:8 --->

Blessed be the Lord thy God, which delighted in thee to set thee on his throne, to be king for the Lord thy God: because thy God loved Israel, to establish them for ever, therefore made he thee king over them, to do judgment and justice.

2 Chronicles 20:5-7 --->

5 And Jehoshaphat stood in the congregation of Judah and Jerusalem, in the house of the Lord, before the new court,

6 And said, O Lord God of our fathers, art not thou God in heaven? and rulest not thou over all the kingdoms of the heathen? and in thine hand is there not power and might, so that none is able to withstand thee?

7 Art not thou our God, who didst drive out the inhabitants of this land before thy people Israel, and gavest it to the seed of Abraham thy friend for ever?

Ezra 3:11 --->

And they sang together by course in praising and giving thanks unto the Lord; because he is good, for his mercy endureth for ever toward Israel. And all the people shouted with a great shout, when they praised the Lord, because the foundation of the house of the Lord was laid.

Psalm 28:9 --->

Save thy people, and bless thine inheritance: feed them also, and lift them up for ever.

Psalm 94:14 --->

For the Lord will not cast off his people, neither will he forsake his inheritance.

Psalm 105:8-11 --->

8 He hath remembered his covenant for ever, the word which he commanded to a thousand generations.

9 Which covenant he made with Abraham, and his oath unto Isaac;

10 And confirmed the same unto Jacob for a law, and to Israel for an everlasting covenant:

11 Saying, Unto thee will I give the land of Canaan, the lot of your inheritance:

Psalm 125:1-2 --->

1 They that trust in the Lord shall be as mount Zion, which cannot be removed, but abideth for ever.

2 As the mountains are round about Jerusalem, so the Lord is round about his people from henceforth even for ever.

Isaiah 60:21 --->

Thy people also shall be all righteous: they shall inherit the land for ever, the branch of my planting, the work of my hands, that I may be glorified.

Ezekiel 37:21-28 --->

21 And say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I will take the children of Israel from among the heathen, whither they be gone, and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their own land:

22 And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all.

23 Neither shall they defile themselves any more with their idols, nor with their detestable things, nor with any of their transgressions: but I will save them out of all their dwelling places, wherein they have sinned, and will cleanse them: so shall they be my people, and I will be their God.

24 And David my servant shall be king over them; and they all shall have one shepherd: they shall also walk in my judgments, and observe my statutes, and do them.

25 And they shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob my servant, wherein your fathers have dwelt; and they shall dwell therein, even they, and their children, and their children's children for ever: and my servant David shall be their prince for ever.

26 Moreover I will make a covenant of peace with them; it shall be an everlasting covenant with them: and I will place them, and multiply them, and will set my sanctuary in the midst of them for evermore.

27 My tabernacle also shall be with them: yea, I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

28 And the heathen shall know that I the Lord do sanctify Israel, when my sanctuary shall be in the midst of them for evermore.

Romans 11:1-2 --->

1 I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.

2 God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew...



And if you still choose to ignore scripture and believe that God has forsaken Israel because of their sin, check out these scriptures --->



Leviticus 26:44-45 --->

44 And yet for all that, when they be in the land of their enemies, I will not cast them away, neither will I abhor them, to destroy them utterly, and to break my covenant with them: for I am the Lord their God.

45 But I will for their sakes remember the covenant of their ancestors, whom I brought forth out of the land of Egypt in the sight of the heathen, that I might be their God: I am the Lord.

Ezekiel 36:17-32 --->

17 Son of man, when the house of Israel dwelt in their own land, they defiled it by their own way and by their doings: their way was before me as the uncleanness of a removed woman.

18 Wherefore I poured my fury upon them for the blood that they had shed upon the land, and for their idols wherewith they had polluted it:

19 And I scattered them among the heathen, and they were dispersed through the countries: according to their way and according to their doings I judged them.

20 And when they entered unto the heathen, whither they went, they profaned my holy name, when they said to them, These are the people of the Lord, and are gone forth out of his land.

21 But I had pity for mine holy name, which the house of Israel had profaned among the heathen, whither they went.

22 Therefore say unto the house of Israel, thus saith the Lord God; I do not this for your sakes, O house of Israel, but for mine holy name's sake, which ye have profaned among the heathen, whither ye went.

23 And I will sanctify my great name, which was profaned among the heathen, which ye have profaned in the midst of them; and the heathen shall know that I am the Lord, saith the Lord God, when I shall be sanctified in you before their eyes.

24 For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land.

25 Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.

26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.

27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

28 And ye shall dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers; and ye shall be my people, and I will be your God.

29 I will also save you from all your uncleannesses: and I will call for the corn, and will increase it, and lay no famine upon you.

30 And I will multiply the fruit of the tree, and the increase of the field, that ye shall receive no more reproach of famine among the heathen.

31 Then shall ye remember your own evil ways, and your doings that were not good, and shall lothe yourselves in your own sight for your iniquities and for your abominations.

32 Not for your sakes do I this, saith the Lord God, be it known unto you: be ashamed and confounded for your own ways, O house of Israel.

Romans 11:25-27 --->

25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
 
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15 For all the land which thou seest, to thee will I give it, and to thy seed for ever.
Paul makes clear in Galatians 3:16 that your seed refers to Christ. Genesis 15 proves that GOD meant Christ when he made this promise because when Abraham asked for surety that he would inherit the land, GOD made a blood covenant with him promising to give the land to his seed (he didn't promise to give it to Abraham). He couldn't have meant Abraham's descendents because they being dead like he would be, wouldn't be able to give anything to him, much less the land. Only the messiah, Abraham's seed, could give him the land in the resurrection.
 

LW97

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Paul makes clear in Galatians 3:16 that your seed refers to Christ. Genesis 15 proves that GOD meant Christ when he made this promise because when Abraham asked for surety that he would inherit the land, GOD made a blood covenant with him promising to give the land to his seed (he didn't promise to give it to Abraham). He couldn't have meant Abraham's descendents because they being dead like he would be, wouldn't be able to give anything to him, much less the land. Only the messiah, Abraham's seed, could give him the land in the resurrection.
That does not refute the fact that the Church did not replace Israel.
 

trofimus

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That does not refute the fact that the Church did not replace Israel.
But it makes this argument of yours wrong.

Also, you are mixing the people of faith (Israel, Church) with biological lineage or state constitution.

In the Old Testament, the people of God were believers from Israel, now its Church (believers from Israel together with believers from other nations).
 

LW97

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But it makes this argument of yours wrong.

Also, you are mixing the people of faith (Israel, Church) with biological lineage or state constitution.

In the Old Testament, the people of God were believers from Israel, now its Church (believers from Israel together with believers from other nations).
Replacement theology is supported by antisemites like Steven Anderson.
 

trofimus

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Why do you believe the Church replaced Israel?
Because there is a new covenant, covenant based on faith, not based on flesh. In this new covenant, Christ is what makes us to be the people of God, not land or state constitution.
 

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Because there is a new covenant, covenant based on faith, not based on flesh. In this new covenant, Christ is what makes us to be the people of God, not land or state constitution.
So God's covenant with Israel was not everlasting?
 
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Because there is a new covenant, covenant based on faith, not based on flesh. In this new covenant, Christ is what makes us to be the people of God, not land or state constitution.
Stated another way: a new covenant sealed by circumcsion of the heart, not circumcision of the flesh.
 

trofimus

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So God's covenant with Israel was not everlasting?
Well, you cannot have two different at once. So no, it was not everlasting. It was till Christ.
 
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So God's covenant with Israel was not everlasting?
If you mean "to continue forever", no. Circumcision is nothing in the eyes of GOD, whereas before it was the sign/seal of covenant relationship with him.
 

LW97

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Well, you cannot have two different at once. So no, it was not everlasting. It was till Christ.
Well, what about this?

And I will establish my covenant between me and thee and thy seed after thee in their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee. Genesis 17:7

God bless
 
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Well, what about this?

And I will establish my covenant between me and thee and thy seed after thee in their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee. Genesis 17:7

God bless
I think the words “their generations” prety much seals it, he did not talk a out my generations.

Isreal was promised a plot of land not heaven, (although through that promise was the promised seed which could give them a way to heaven by taking their sin)

they are two different promises (Israel vs the church, which includes Israel)
 

trofimus

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Well, what about this?

And I will establish my covenant between me and thee and thy seed after thee in their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee. Genesis 17:7

God bless
Its about the New Covenant in Christ. This covenant is everlasting.

Also, consider the fact that "ageous" does not have to be always translated like "without end".