Why so many muslim suicide bomers?

[lightMe]

the only religion that i heard got suicide bomer is Muslims, what make them so crazy? maybe they so confident of their faith, why is that?. is there any chances we become crazy like them if our religion is threaten?

 

[StraightPath]

the only religion that i heard got suicide bomer is Muslims, what make them so crazy? maybe they so confident of their faith, why is that?. is there any chances we become crazy like them if our religion is threaten?

muslims are not the first Kamikaze ... the very word ''Kamikaze'' is a Japanese word.

Suicide is forbidden and the killing of innocent is forbidden in Islam ... UNLESS, you are on the battlefield facing the enemy and you have no other mean to fight with ... then your ownself. then it is ALLOWED !

as in Afghanistan or Palestine ... where the fighters are not provided with the same tools to fight with. It's like a mice VS an Elephant. but why Muslims prefer death to submission to the enemy... simply because if they submit to the enemy than they are no longer muslims. since Muslim means he who is in a state of Submission to God's Will. this also imply that a Muslim will not submit to anyone else beside God, a Muslim will not take other Protector beside God. Some people for exemple put their trust in Nuclear Weapons, they believe it will provide them security, and if that is the case... then they have tooked others as Protectors beside God.

While thousands of Muslims are killed all over the world, and while tens of thousands are imprisoned and tortured for calling to the path of Allah and for enjoining the good and forbidding the evil, most Muslims remain remarkably silent and have no worry except for the material things of life. Their hearts have been filled with the love of this life and the forgetfulness of the Hereafter.''You will indeed find them, of all people, most greedy of life, even more than those who do not believe in Resurrection. Each one of them wishes he could be given a life of a thousand years. But the grant of such life will not save him even a little from due punishment. For Allah sees well all that they do" (Al Baqarah, 2:96). Many Muslims today have become so much attached to their life that their desire is to dwell among their family, house, money and commerce. They have forgotten that matters of the Hereafter should come before matters of this life and that we must strive to follow the orders of Allah, not just those we find easy and convenient to follow. Some Muslims today claim that it is better to perform extra prayers and extra fasting rather than enjoin the good and forbid the evil or defend the lives of weak Muslims. Such people would even blame the Muslims who strive to perform these obligations.

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[Credo_ut_Intelligam]

The IRA also practiced suicide bombing, if I remember correctly. Its popularity with contemporary Muslim extremists is due to their religious ideology, which takes away most of the undesirable effects of blowing yourself up.

 

[charliemay]

that all sounds rather um morbid

 

[Credo_ut_Intelligam]

Some people for exemple put their trust in Nuclear Weapons, they believe it will provide them security, and if that is the case... then they have tooked others as Protectors beside God.

Then a Muslim who uses car bombs and people bombs are trusting in the bombs for their security. The Muslim who sends off a young person to blow himself up is looking to a human-bomb as his source of security and protection.

While thousands of Muslims are killed all over the world, and while tens of thousands are imprisoned and tortured for calling to the path of Allah and for enjoining the good and forbidding the evil, most Muslims remain remarkably silent and have no worry except for the material things of life.

Of course thousands of Muslims are themselves wielding the sword and persecuting other religions too.

 

[StraightPath]

Then a Muslim who uses car bombs and people bombs are trusting in the bombs for their security. The Muslim who sends off a young person to blow himself up is looking to a human-bomb as his source of security and protection.
No ! since that one is willing to Die ! he ain't looking for security

for exemple in Afghanistan, you have on one side American soldiers who are there and they are fighting, they are getting PAID for being there on the Afghan ground and for taking the weapons. they are provided with the best technological and sophisticated weapons. They aint PAID to think (wether what they are doing is right or wrong?), they are PAID to obey the orders, to kill and that's it. and their only wish is to go back in their country alive and in one piece. ALIVE and in one piece !

and on the other side, you got people that came from Pakistan, Iraq or whatever neighbor country around Afghanistan and those people ask NOT for any SALARY. and they run after death just as ardently as you and I run after life.

do you get the picture ?


Of course thousands of Muslims are themselves wielding the sword and persecuting other religions too.

I agree, Look at how many christians had been oppressed in Africa... the most logical thing expected from a ''christian'' country to do, is to go and help their brothers and sisters FIRST ... not to go and invade Afghanistan.

 

[Credo_ut_Intelligam]

No ! since that one is willing to Die ! he ain't looking for security

You didn’t read what I said very closely. I said “Then a Muslim who uses car bombs and people bombs are trusting in the bombs for their security. The Muslim who sends off a young person to blow himself up is looking to a human-bomb as his source of security and protection.”

So the fact that the person who blows himself up is willing to die is irrelevant. My criticism still works against those Muslims who are training the suicide bombers and sending them off to die. They are trusting in their bombs and not Allah.

for exemple in Afghanistan, you have on one side American soldiers who are there and they are fighting, they are getting PAID for being there on the Afghan ground and for taking the weapons. they are provided with the best technological and sophisticated weapons.

Well I don’t want to be crass or promote caricatures (but since you are promoting them yourself here then I'll just show how it can be spun around on you). The suicide bomber is getting PAID with virgins in heaven.

They aint PAID to think (wether what they are doing is right or wrong?), they are PAID to obey the orders, to kill and that's it. and their only wish is to go back in their country alive and in one piece. ALIVE and in one piece !

And the suicide bomber isn’t getting PAID with virgins to think (whether what they are doing is right or wrong), they are PAID to obey the orders, to kill and that’s it. And their only wish is to get to heaven with their virgins alive and in one piece. ALIVE and in one piece.

and on the other side, you got people that came from Pakistan, Iraq or whatever neighbor country around Afghanistan and those people ask NOT for any SALARY. and they run after death just as ardently as you and I run after life.

Well they aren’t working for any monetary salary; their salary is sex in heaven. And they run after death to obtain a life of eternal carnal pleasures.

do you get the picture ?

Yes I get your picture: killing people for a carnal pleasures in heaven is nobler than killing people for carnal pleasures on earth.

I agree, Look at how many christians had been oppressed in Africa... the most logical thing expected from a ''christian'' country to do, is to go and help their brothers and sisters FIRST ... not to go and invade Afghanistan.

You are making the all too common mistake that most middle eastern Muslims make when they confuse Americans and Christians. Christians do help their brothers and sisters out. But that doesn't look like a bomb strapped to the chest because our weapons and our war is not carnal.

(P.S. War veterans aren't exactly rich and living the high life.)

 

[resurrection33]

the only religion that i heard got suicide bomer is Muslims, what make them so crazy? maybe they so confident of their faith, why is that?. is there any chances we become crazy like them if our religion is threaten?

They seem pretty angry sometimes. Why do you think they are so angry?

 

[Glowing]

Or as CHRIST Stated; The Giving of YOUR flesh Body,is ONLY Your reasonble Service!(Morbid?????) Its been going on since the Knowledge of The Truth came To US in the Flesh;MOSES

There are ENDLESS examples of ALL KINDS of People giving Their Lives for whats RIGHT!!!

Should Humble YOU Knowing you are a CHILD of GOD in HIS GENERATION of HIS GRACE!(and that is HIS LOVE!!!)

Love & Peace Forever In CHRIST!!!

 

[giantone]

They seem pretty angry sometimes. Why do you think they are so angry?

Because Satan is angry.

I think some of it also has to do with them feeling like they got a raw deal by the United States trying to interfere with there country and way of life (and they want power and control) . And so they use the religion to justify the evil they do. Some Christians have done the same things in the name of God in the past, some still do.

Some suicide bombers don't do it by choice, the people who put them up to it hold there families hostage and threaten to do really bad things to them if they don't do what they say.

 

[StraightPath]

You didn’t read what I said very closely. I said “Then a Muslim who uses car bombs and people bombs are trusting in the bombs for their security. The Muslim who sends off a young person to blow himself up is looking to a human-bomb as his source of security and protection.”
Whoever put his Trust in something else than God ... is taking that something else as his God.

So the fact that the person who blows himself up is willing to die is irrelevant. My criticism still works against those Muslims who are training the suicide bombers and sending them off to die. They are trusting in their bombs and not Allah.
you imply that the suicide bomber does not act on his will, the suicide bomber is the one who make up his decision, he got a will, and he take actions according to his will ... you focus on ''the one who send suicide bombers'' ... while the focus should be on ''the one who sends himself to death'' ...
and just tell me what kind of security does it bring to the one who wish for death?




Well I don’t want to be crass or promote caricatures (but since you are promoting them yourself here then I'll just show how it can be spun around on you). The suicide bomber is getting PAID with virgins in heaven.
that is part of the anti-islamic propaganda ... they tried to make us believe that the reason WHY suicide bombers do what they do, is an understandable reason, therefore we should not try to seek for WHY? those people do what they do ...
you are not crass, just a little ignorant on the motives that pushed so many people to sacrifice their own-lives.

And the suicide bomber isn’t getting PAID with virgins to think (whether what they are doing is right or wrong), they are PAID to obey the orders, to kill and that’s it. And their only wish is to get to heaven with their virgins alive and in one piece. ALIVE and in one piece.

After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever (1 Thessalonians 4:17).



Well they aren’t working for any monetary salary; their salary is sex in heaven. And they run after death to obtain a life of eternal carnal pleasures.




Yes I get your picture: killing people for a carnal pleasures in heaven is nobler than killing people for carnal pleasures on earth.



You are making the all too common mistake that most middle eastern Muslims make when they confuse Americans and Christians. Christians do help their brothers and sisters out. But that doesn't look like a bomb strapped to the chest because our weapons and our war is not carnal.

(P.S. War veterans aren't exactly rich and living the high life.)

killing people for a carnal pleasures in heaven is nobler than killing people for carnal pleasures on earth ... lol ...even thought you make that claim in a sarcastic way, there still is some truth in it.

Islam does not oppose the West, or anyone else, because of revenge over past hostilities, out of a desire to restore injured pride or because of the desire to amass their wealth and lands. The fight is for one purpose only and that is to establish the religion of Islam in its totality, as the Prophet (peace be upon him) explained when a man came to him and asked: "One of us fights for booty, another for his tribe and another to be known as brave, which one is fighting jihad?" The Prophet (peace be upon him) replied: "None of them. Only the one who fights to make Allah's Word the highest is fighting jihad." It is clear to any believer acquainted with Allah's Book (i.e. the Quran) and His Prophet's Sunnah that jihad (i.e. struggling to the utmost of ones ability) is an intrinsic part of faith, and a duty among the duties in Islam. The Prophet (peace be upon him) said, as reported by Tariq bin Shihab: "He who amongst you sees something evil should change it with his hand; and if he is unable he should change it with his tongue; and if he is unable to do that he should at least hate it in his heart, and that is the weakest form of faith"

Jihad has three characteristics. The first form is jihad of the heart, or jihad of the self. This is the internal struggle to acquire the correct creed, and to remove from one's self all doubts and misconceptions concerning this creed, and also the commands and prohibitions enjoined on the believer. It further more encompasses the purifying of the soul from base desires and acquiring noble qualities. The second level is the jihad of the tongue. This is the struggle against evil, and wrong beliefs and actions through preaching and writing books and the like. This form of jihad is characterized by its use against the deviants from among the Muslims, but also extends to the unbelievers. The final form of jihad is that of the hand, or sword, where one expends life and property. It is characterized by its use against unbelievers, but can also be used against deviant groups under the authority of the Muslim ruler. This jihad of the hand, often termed "Holy War", is further compartmentalized into three stages. The first is that of it being forbidden, as it was in the early days of Muhammad's prophethood. If the Muslims are weak, and fighting is liable to cause only harm and no benefit, then they should desist. Such is the case of those dwelling in non-Muslim lands. The second stage is that of self-defense, or restricting the fight to

"those who fight you" [Noble Quran 2:190]

and releasing the lands of the Muslims from the control of their enemies. This is the condition of the Muslims today. The final stage is that of fighting in order to open the path for establishing Allah's rule in the lands of the unbelievers, as was done by the Prophet's companions and the Muslim rulers after them.

"And WHY should you not fight in the cause of God when there are weak and oppressed, old men, women and children whose cry is 'Oh Lord save us from those who oppress, and send to us one who will aid and send to us one who will help!'"
[Noble Quran 4:75]


Thus one the Prophet's companions, Rab'ia ibn Amer, went to meet Rostrum, the famous Persian general, at his request and the general offered camels, and women and asked them to return to the desert. Rab'ia refused, and Rostrum asked him why then were they fighting. Rab'ia replied: "We have come to take mankind from the darkness to the light and from the worship of the false gods to the worship of Allah, from the narrowness of this world the wide expanse of this world and the next, and from the injustices of man made religions to the justice of Islam."

So this Jihad is the peak of the matter and fulfilling it is part of fulfilling the covenant with Allah, and abandoning it is the cause of humiliation and defeat for the Muslims. As Allah said:

"If you march not forth, He will punish you with a painful torment and will replace you by another people and you cannot harm Him at all, and Allah is able to do all things"
[Noble Quran 9:39]

and the saying of the Prophet (peace be upon him):

"When you deal in "al-ainiya" (i.e. become complacent and satisfied with a domestic life) and hang on to the cows tails, and abandon jihad, then Allah will permit your humiliation at the hands of your enemies and will not lift it from you until you return to your religion."

So today we find Muslims leading a life as if they had no prophet, nor belief in any Divine Message or Divine Revelation, nor expectation of any reckoning, nor is fear of the hereafter. They resemble the pre-Islamic nations, against whom they used to fight in the past. So they have turned on their heels as apostates from Islam and have imitated the ignorant nations in their civilization, in their social affairs, in their political systems, in their character and in the pleasures of their lives. So Allah hated them and forsook them, as He promised He would. He had warned them of this clearly in His Book, and on the tongue of His Messenger Muhammad (peace be upon him): "Soon the nations will gather to take from you the same way you invite others to share from a feast!" A person asked the Prophet (peace be upon him): "Is that because we are small in our numbers?" The Prophet (peace be upon him) answered: "No! You will be many, like the foam on the sea, but you will be rubbish, like the rubbish carried down by the flood water. And certainly Allah will remove from the breasts of your enemies the fear of you and into your breasts He will cast enervation." A person asked: "What is enervation?" The Prophet (peace be upon him) replied: "It is love of life and fear of death." This has come true exactly, as the Prophet (peace be upon him) predicted, and if there is a "Revival of Islam", then that is because anyone with ears and eyes can see how the Muslims are humiliated - their lands a feast for their enemies, ruled by laws and ways nothing to do with that which Allah has revealed. The solution to these problems has been given by the Prophet (peace be upon him) himself one thousand four hundred years ago: "Return to your religion", enjoin what Allah has enjoined and forbid what He has forbidden, prefer the next life to this, and for the Muslims to once again struggle with their lives and properties to bring themselves and others out of the oppression of man made ways of life to the justice of that which has been revealed by the All-knowing Creator!

Allah has promised in His Book that if the Muslims fail to keep their covenant, and fight against the foolish disbelief, then He will destroy them and

"replace them with a people who will love Him, and He will love them, and they will be hard against the forces of disbelief and kind to the believers, and unafraid of those who find fault" [Noble Quran 5:54]

And Allah speaks the truth, and His promise comes true, and this has proven so in the past, as when the Muslims left their religion, fought amongst each other, and reveled in the delights of worldly life... then the calamity of the Tartars fell upon them, destroying utterly the Muslim lands, and its capital Baghdad. Yet from these same conquerors, Allah made them the defenders and upholders of Islam, and from them to the Turks, who in their turn lapsed, and so Allah destroyed them at the hands of the Europeans. Thus is situation in which Muslims find themselves today. It is quite possible that history will repeat itself, and that Islam will be given its strength again through those who had formally tried to destroy it.

 

[Credo_ut_Intelligam]

you imply that the suicide bomber does not act on his will, the suicide bomber is the one who make up his decision, he got a will, and he take actions according to his will ... you focus on ''the one who send suicide bombers'' ... while the focus should be on ''the one who sends himself to death'' ...
and just tell me what kind of security does it bring to the one who wish for death?

No. Either you are giving a deliberate red-herring fallacy or else you aren’t keeping track of your own remarks. You said some people are putting their trust in Nuclear weapons.

Now this is either an unfounded assertion or else you are trying to say that simply because they have nuclear weapons they are trusting in them rather than God.

If it is an unfounded assertion, then I can just assert that those Muslims who use suicide bombers are trusting in their human-bombs rather than God.

If the mere fact that some persons have nuclear weapons means they are trusting in the weapons rather than God, then the mere fact that someone uses human-bombs and car bombs means they are trusting in the weapons rather than Allah.

Trying to say I should focus on the bomber is irrelevant and looks like a deliberate red-herring to try and escape your dilemma.

But even if I do focus on the bomber I can still maintain my point: the person who straps a bomb to his chest is trusting in the bomb and in his own death to change society rather than Allah.

that is part of the anti-islamic propaganda ...

And all you are given us with your rant against American soldiers is anti-American propaganda.

According to several sources, the collection of hadith in Sunan al-Tirmidhi in chapter 23 and hadith 2562 says “Sawda (Tirmidhi’s grandfather) reported that he heard from Abdullah, who received from Rishdin b. Sa’d, who in turn learned from Amr b. al-Harith, from Darraj, from Abul-Haytham, from Abu Sa’id al-Khudri, who received it from the Apostle of God [Muhammad]: The least [reward] for the people of Heaven is 80,000 servants and 72 wives, over which stands a dome of pearls, aquamarine and ruby, as [wide as the distance] between al-Jaabiyya and San’a.”

And will these not be virgins (at least prior to their marriage? Surah 55). And does not the Quran teach that the one who fights or strives in the way of Allah will receive just such a reward (Surah 61:11-12)?

So while there is no direct teaching in the Quran (that I’m aware of) that teaches that martyrs are guaranteed 72 virgins, there is clearly Islamic teaching that everyone who goes to heaven will receive 72 wives (if you’re a male of course) and the Quran teaches that one way to get to heaven is by fighting in the cause of Allah.

Thus, it is not in fact propaganda or far-fetched that some naïve suicide bomber thinks he will get 72 virgins by blowing himself up.

After all, suicide bombers are naïve enough to blow themselves up along with women and children. So I don’t find it implausible that their motives are equally naïve. Let’s not forget that there is always a divide between a religion in its theoretical form and in its folk form.

Take Roman Catholicism for example. Theoretically, Roman Catholicism isn’t very superstitious, but I personally know some Roman Catholics who are *very* superstitious even to the point of being animists.

Muslims are the same way. They sell charms and use charms to bring them good luck and to ward off evil spirits. Not all Muslims are like this (particularly westernized Muslims). But most that you will meet on the street in Morocco or Afghanistan are.

they tried to make us believe that the reason WHY suicide bombers do what they do, is an understandable reason, therefore we should not try to seek for WHY? those people do what they do ..

Not sure what exactly you’re saying here.

After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever (1 Thessalonians 4:17).

Not sure what your point is here.

killing people for a carnal pleasures in heaven is nobler than killing people for carnal pleasures on earth ... lol ...even thought you make that claim in a sarcastic way, there still is some truth in it.

Why? Why is it nobler to kill yourself and others because you think you’ll get a lot of sex?? Explain this please.

Islam does not oppose the West, or anyone else, because of revenge over past hostilities, out of a desire to restore injured pride or because of the desire to amass their wealth and lands.

While “Islam” as an ideal defined by the Quran may not teach the principle of revenge, all the fighting we see in the middle east are in fact motivated purely out of revenge 90% of the time. To try and deny this would be very silly and destroy any credibility one might have for being able to rationally assess world affairs.

Muslim 'revenge' blamed for attack on Christians

Sentencing adjourned on 2003 Mumbai bombers

Islamic rebels destroy Philippines village in revenge attack

Al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb threatens "revenge" against France for "religious terrorism" over criticism of burqa - Jihad Watch

Revenge of young Muslims | Yasmin Hai - Times Online

Al Qaeda vows revenge on Chinese workers over persecution of Muslim Uighurs | Mail Online

And Allah speaks the truth, and His promise comes true, and this has proven so in the past, as when the Muslims left their religion, fought amongst each other, and reveled in the delights of worldly life... then the calamity of the Tartars fell upon them, destroying utterly the Muslim lands, and its capital Baghdad.

This is exactly the same rhetoric that Muslim extremists use to promote their terrorism. They claim that their countries are having such difficulties because they have become too relaxed in sharia and have allowed liberal scholars to modernize it too much. They have become too much like the West (which they naively equate with Christianity). Once everyone because an Islamic terrorist God will bless them and make them strong…

Good luck with all that. Christianity and Islam are both bloody religions in their own way. In Islam, the blood of unbelievers must be shed for Allah. In Christianity, God shed his blood for humanity.

 

[Credo_ut_Intelligam]

Once everyone because an Islamic terrorist God will bless them and make them strong…

That should be "becomes"... When I write things too quickly I tend to spell on a purely phonetic level.

 

[charisenexcelcis]

the only religion that i heard got suicide bomer is Muslims, what make them so crazy? maybe they so confident of their faith, why is that?. is there any chances we become crazy like them if our religion is threaten?

A Christian martyr is ready to die for their faith, not kill for it....

 

[charisenexcelcis]

muslims are not the first Kamikaze ... the very word ''Kamikaze'' is a Japanese word.

Suicide is forbidden and the killing of innocent is forbidden in Islam ... UNLESS, you are on the battlefield facing the enemy and you have no other mean to fight with ... then your ownself. then it is ALLOWED !
Our God would not compromise His standards for expediency. He does not ever approve of murder in His name. He instructed us to love our enemies and turn the other cheek.

as in Afghanistan or Palestine ... where the fighters are not provided with the same tools to fight with. It's like a mice VS an Elephant. but why Muslims prefer death to submission to the enemy... simply because if they submit to the enemy than they are no longer muslims. since Muslim means he who is in a state of Submission to God's Will. this also imply that a Muslim will not submit to anyone else beside God, a Muslim will not take other Protector beside God. Some people for exemple put their trust in Nuclear Weapons, they believe it will provide them security, and if that is the case... then they have tooked others as Protectors beside God.
Whether they use a nuclear weapon or a rocket laucher, they are trusting in their physical weapons.

While thousands of Muslims are killed all over the world, and while tens of thousands are imprisoned and tortured for calling to the path of Allah and for enjoining the good and forbidding the evil, most Muslims remain remarkably silent and have no worry except for the material things of life. Their hearts have been filled with the love of this life and the forgetfulness of the Hereafter.''You will indeed find them, of all people, most greedy of life, even more than those who do not believe in Resurrection. Each one of them wishes he could be given a life of a thousand years. But the grant of such life will not save him even a little from due punishment. For Allah sees well all that they do" (Al Baqarah, 2:96). Many Muslims today have become so much attached to their life that their desire is to dwell among their family, house, money and commerce. They have forgotten that matters of the Hereafter should come before matters of this life and that we must strive to follow the orders of Allah, not just those we find easy and convenient to follow. Some Muslims today claim that it is better to perform extra prayers and extra fasting rather than enjoin the good and forbid the evil or defend the lives of weak Muslims. Such people would even blame the Muslims who strive to perform these obligations.
Do you equate "enjoining the good and forbidding the bad" with going to a public place and setting off a bomb that will kill dozens of innocent bystanders. And why is that most of the thousands of Muslims being killed are being killed by other Muslims. God's anger will be poured out against those who do such evil in His name, whether Christian or Muslim.

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[greatkraw]

the only religion that i heard got suicide bomer is Muslims, what make them so crazy? maybe they so confident of their faith, why is that?. is there any chances we become crazy like them if our religion is threaten?

islam does notguarantee salvation

except

when you diekilling infidels

also

any suicide bomber who dies taking infidels with them - their families receive a cash reward - I kid you not

while i am on thesubject ofcashrewards

in australia muslim gils who wear the hijab are paid $40/week to do so by the mosque

 

[charisenexcelcis]

I agree, Look at how many christians had been oppressed in Africa... the most logical thing expected from a ''christian'' country to do, is to go and help their brothers and sisters FIRST ... not to go and invade Afghanistan.

The United States is not a "Christian" country, it is a secular government.

 

[miktre]

Because Satan is angry.

I think some of it also has to do with them feeling like they got a raw deal by the United States trying to interfere with there country and way of life (and they want power and control) . And so they use the religion to justify the evil they do. Some Christians have done the same things in the name of God in the past, some still do.

Some suicide bombers don't do it by choice, the people who put them up to it hold there families hostage and threaten to do really bad things to them if they don't do what they say.

+1 All these guys have is sticks and rocks.

The powers in charge need the hate to exist, its very useful.

Seems some things are still made in America:

 

[miktre]

OOPS!!! Seems this guy posing as Hamas forgot to take his Star of David necklace off.

 

[charisenexcelcis]

killing people for a carnal pleasures in heaven is nobler than killing people for carnal pleasures on earth ... lol ...even thought you make that claim in a sarcastic way, there still is some truth in it.
Ther is no truth to it. "Carnal pleasures in heaven" is an oxymoron.

Islam does not oppose the West, or anyone else, because of revenge over past hostilities, out of a desire to restore injured pride or because of the desire to amass their wealth and lands. The fight is for one purpose only and that is to establish the religion of Islam in its totality, as the Prophet (peace be upon him) explained when a man came to him and asked: "One of us fights for booty, another for his tribe and another to be known as brave, which one is fighting jihad?" The Prophet (peace be upon him) replied: "None of them. Only the one who fights to make Allah's Word the highest is fighting jihad." It is clear to any believer acquainted with Allah's Book (i.e. the Quran) and His Prophet's Sunnah that jihad (i.e. struggling to the utmost of ones ability) is an intrinsic part of faith, and a duty among the duties in Islam. The Prophet (peace be upon him) said, as reported by Tariq bin Shihab: "He who amongst you sees something evil should change it with his hand; and if he is unable he should change it with his tongue; and if he is unable to do that he should at least hate it in his heart, and that is the weakest form of faith"
The scriptures say, you have heard to love your friend and hate your enemy, but I (Jesus) say to you, love your enemy.

Jihad has three characteristics. The first form is jihad of the heart, or jihad of the self. This is the internal struggle to acquire the correct creed, and to remove from one's self all doubts and misconceptions concerning this creed, and also the commands and prohibitions enjoined on the believer. It further more encompasses the purifying of the soul from base desires and acquiring noble qualities. The second level is the jihad of the tongue. This is the struggle against evil, and wrong beliefs and actions through preaching and writing books and the like. This form of jihad is characterized by its use against the deviants from among the Muslims, but also extends to the unbelievers. The final form of jihad is that of the hand, or sword, where one expends life and property. It is characterized by its use against unbelievers, but can also be used against deviant groups under the authority of the Muslim ruler. This jihad of the hand, often termed "Holy War", is further compartmentalized into three stages. The first is that of it being forbidden, as it was in the early days of Muhammad's prophethood. If the Muslims are weak, and fighting is liable to cause only harm and no benefit, then they should desist. Such is the case of those dwelling in non-Muslim lands. The second stage is that of self-defense, or restricting the fight to

"those who fight you" [Noble Quran 2:190]

and releasing the lands of the Muslims from the control of their enemies. This is the condition of the Muslims today. The final stage is that of fighting in order to open the path for establishing Allah's rule in the lands of the unbelievers, as was done by the Prophet's companions and the Muslim rulers after them.

"And WHY should you not fight in the cause of God when there are weak and oppressed, old men, women and children whose cry is 'Oh Lord save us from those who oppress, and send to us one who will aid and send to us one who will help!'"
[Noble Quran 4:75]
And this is where we diverge. As Christians we are called not to use the sword to extend our faith into other lands. Our war is not against flesh and blood.


Thus one the Prophet's companions, Rab'ia ibn Amer, went to meet Rostrum, the famous Persian general, at his request and the general offered camels, and women and asked them to return to the desert. Rab'ia refused, and Rostrum asked him why then were they fighting. Rab'ia replied: "We have come to take mankind from the darkness to the light and from the worship of the false gods to the worship of Allah, from the narrowness of this world the wide expanse of this world and the next, and from the injustices of man made religions to the justice of Islam."

So this Jihad is the peak of the matter and fulfilling it is part of fulfilling the covenant with Allah, and abandoning it is the cause of humiliation and defeat for the Muslims. As Allah said:

"If you march not forth, He will punish you with a painful torment and will replace you by another people and you cannot harm Him at all, and Allah is able to do all things"
[Noble Quran 9:39]
So, your god is commanding you to extend his kingdom by physical violence?

and the saying of the Prophet (peace be upon him):

"When you deal in "al-ainiya" (i.e. become complacent and satisfied with a domestic life) and hang on to the cows tails, and abandon jihad, then Allah will permit your humiliation at the hands of your enemies and will not lift it from you until you return to your religion."
And this is the state of Islam. You feel humiliated at the hands of your enemies, so you follow this command into violence and murder.

So today we find Muslims leading a life as if they had no prophet, nor belief in any Divine Message or Divine Revelation, nor expectation of any reckoning, nor is fear of the hereafter. They resemble the pre-Islamic nations, against whom they used to fight in the past. So they have turned on their heels as apostates from Islam and have imitated the ignorant nations in their civilization, in their social affairs, in their political systems, in their character and in the pleasures of their lives. So Allah hated them and forsook them, as He promised He would. He had warned them of this clearly in His Book, and on the tongue of His Messenger Muhammad (peace be upon him): "Soon the nations will gather to take from you the same way you invite others to share from a feast!" A person asked the Prophet (peace be upon him): "Is that because we are small in our numbers?" The Prophet (peace be upon him) answered: "No! You will be many, like the foam on the sea, but you will be rubbish, like the rubbish carried down by the flood water. And certainly Allah will remove from the breasts of your enemies the fear of you and into your breasts He will cast enervation." A person asked: "What is enervation?" The Prophet (peace be upon him) replied: "It is love of life and fear of death." This has come true exactly, as the Prophet (peace be upon him) predicted, and if there is a "Revival of Islam", then that is because anyone with ears and eyes can see how the Muslims are humiliated - their lands a feast for their enemies, ruled by laws and ways nothing to do with that which Allah has revealed. The solution to these problems has been given by the Prophet (peace be upon him) himself one thousand four hundred years ago: "Return to your religion", enjoin what Allah has enjoined and forbid what He has forbidden, prefer the next life to this, and for the Muslims to once again struggle with their lives and properties to bring themselves and others out of the oppression of man made ways of life to the justice of that which has been revealed by the All-knowing Creator!
They will cry "peace, peace" but none shall be found.

Allah has promised in His Book that if the Muslims fail to keep their covenant, and fight against the foolish disbelief, then He will destroy them and

"replace them with a people who will love Him, and He will love them, and they will be hard against the forces of disbelief and kind to the believers, and unafraid of those who find fault" [Noble Quran 5:54]

And Allah speaks the truth, and His promise comes true, and this has proven so in the past, as when the Muslims left their religion, fought amongst each other, and reveled in the delights of worldly life... then the calamity of the Tartars fell upon them, destroying utterly the Muslim lands, and its capital Baghdad. Yet from these same conquerors, Allah made them the defenders and upholders of Islam, and from them to the Turks, who in their turn lapsed, and so Allah destroyed them at the hands of the Europeans. Thus is situation in which Muslims find themselves today. It is quite possible that history will repeat itself, and that Islam will be given its strength again through those who had formally tried to destroy it.

You are on a dangerous path. I pray that you will turn aside before you destroy yourself.