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hannahcorn

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Why do lgbtq supporters say "love is love" but then act like pedophilia is the worst thing in the world?? "its not a sexuality" they say,... well neither is homosexuality, its lustful temptations, am I correct?? dont men and women have certain both have certain traits and differences that makes them go well together? I need some good arguments against lgbtq stuff, im not sure what to say to my Christian friend who supports it. I need logical explanations plz? shes rly smart:giggle::unsure:(y)
 
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theanointedsinner

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-philia

ask her to define what "sexuality" is

does it have to be the suffix of the word "-sexuality"

is "homo" a sexuality, if we take out the ... hmm...
she can answer "abbreviation", but I'm just trying to get some thoughts jogging along
 

Tommy379

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Use the lamp cord argument. Two male plugs don't go together, so the lights don't come on.
 

Deuteronomy

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Why do lgbtq supporters say "love is love" but then act like pedophilia is the worst thing in the world?? ... I need some good arguments against lgbtq stuff, im not sure what to say to my Christian friend who supports it. I need logical explanations plz? shes rly smart:giggle::unsure:(y)
Hi Hannah, the reason your friend probably thinks pedophilia is worse is because gays and lesbians are typically consenting adults who choose to engage in the sin of homosexuality, whereas children who are raped do not (of course).

That said, if someone questions why I oppose any sexual relationship outside of heterosexual marriage, my answer is normally the same, because it's sin in the eyes of God and it's in direct opposition to His will .. 1 Thessalonians 4:3-5, 7-8. An unrepentant, sinful life comes with a VERY high price, particularly in the life to come .. e.g. 1 Corinthians 6:9-10. Of course, it's always good to deliver a little good news along with the bad, so you might go to the next verse for that, 1 Corinthians 6:11 ("such WERE some of you" ... :amen:).

God, who justifies the wicked/ungodly (not the righteous), came to save sinners from their sins/sinful lifestyles, yes .. Mark 2:17; Romans 4:5.

Quite frankly, as Christians, our 'loving' concern .. 1 Corinthians 13:1, must always be for those who still sit in the darkness, who have not heard/do not know or understand the Good News about Jesus, even in the face of those who may hate us for sharing it with them (both the bad news about sin as well the good news about the Lord and His salvation), because if we don't, who will??

You might also ask your friend this question, "assuming that homosexual acts are as sinful as the Bible tells us that they are, do you think it would it be an act of love or hate if I decided not to speak up and warn them about it if I had the opportunity to do so?"

........1 Corinthians 13
........6 Love .. does not rejoice in unrighteousness, but rejoices with the truth.


~Deut


 
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How Much Child Molestation is Homosexual?
Do homosexuals disproportionately molest children? Gay activists vehemently deny it, yet the empirical evidence says otherwise. The key concept is proportionality. Probably a numerical majority of child molestations involve a male adult and a female child, but given the small fraction of homosexual practitioners, the number of homosexual molestations is disproportionate to the percentage of homosexuals. This briefing summarizes some of the key evidence
http://www.familyresearchinst.org/2012/01/how-much-child-molestation-is-homosexual/
 

Nehemiah6

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I need logical explanations plz?
Logically PERVERSION of anything is bad. It is evil. Whether it is LBGT or pedophilia, they are both perversions of the lawful and legitimate reason for human sexuality.

PERVERSION: the alteration of something from its original course, meaning, or state to a distortion or corruption of what was first intended. Sexual behavior or desire that is considered abnormal or unacceptable.

Also, if someone is deemed to be smart, it does not mean that they cannot be blind to the truth, or lack genuine wisdom. Some of the smartest people are atheistic fools.
 

lastofall

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They that support and endorse sin are not Christians: it is an easy thing to say they are Christians; but it is by their fruits they are known, not by how their tree appears to look.
 

Blanche

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I dont understand the question. Pedophilia is a criminal act ... unwanted ... of an adult on a child. Horrible. Illegal and criminal.
Homosexuality may be a sin (some say it is not) .. but it is consensual between two adults.
You are conflating the two things? Why?
It would never even occur to me that any decent human being would NOT see this for the evil/sickness that it is.
Since homosexuals are included as decent human beings (sin or no sin), of course they would see it as awful.
 
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I dont understand the question. Pedophilia is a criminal act ... unwanted ... of an adult on a child. Horrible. Illegal and criminal.
Homosexuality may be a sin (some say it is not) .. but it is consensual between two adults.
You are conflating the two things? Why?
It would never even occur to me that any decent human being would NOT see this for the evil/sickness that it is.
Since homosexuals are included as decent human beings (sin or no sin), of course they would see it as awful.
Homosexuality was and is supposed to be a criminal act but a federal judge decided it isn't.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Why do lgbtq supporters say "love is love" but then act like pedophilia is the worst thing in the world?? "its not a sexuality" they say,... well neither is homosexuality, its lustful temptations, am I correct?? dont men and women have certain both have certain traits and differences that makes them go well together? I need some good arguments against lgbtq stuff, im not sure what to say to my Christian friend who supports it. I need logical explanations plz? shes rly smart:giggle::unsure:(y)
From my experince, and it will probably be a good answer for her, but people who are entagled in one sin, band together and judge people they think are worse, it takes the focus off them, and allowes them to be freed from some judgment (personal or from outside world)

Its like the theif saying, but i am not as bad as the murderer, now there is a sinner!
 
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hannahcorn

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You are conflating the two things? Why?
because from my understanding I thought they both had one main thing in common- they both are lustful tempations correct?
 

notuptome

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Why do lgbtq supporters say "love is love" but then act like pedophilia is the worst thing in the world?? "its not a sexuality" they say,... well neither is homosexuality, its lustful temptations, am I correct?? dont men and women have certain both have certain traits and differences that makes them go well together? I need some good arguments against lgbtq stuff, im not sure what to say to my Christian friend who supports it. I need logical explanations plz? shes rly smart:giggle::unsure:(y)
How "Christian" can your friend be if they support LBGT? God is offended by all uncleanness. Whosoever offended the law in the least has offended the entire law. No gradation of sin it all leads to eternal death.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 

Blanche

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If homosexuality is a perversion ... a**l sex, then I would have to also say the o*** sex is a perversion. If the natural way is P/V, then anything else is unnatural and wrong.
 
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Seedz

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Why do lgbtq supporters say "love is love" but then act like pedophilia is the worst thing in the world?? "its not a sexuality" they say,... well neither is homosexuality, its lustful temptations, am I correct?? dont men and women have certain both have certain traits and differences that makes them go well together? I need some good arguments against lgbtq stuff, im not sure what to say to my Christian friend who supports it. I need logical explanations plz? shes rly smart:giggle::unsure:(y)
Are you saying that only Homosexuals are capable of performing lustful acts under the gravitation of temptation?

Do you realize that the contemporary context of sexuality today is totally different than it was 2000 years ago?

Did you know that the term "Homosexual" is a modern word?

I suggest you educate yourself on 1st century Greco-Roman culture first.
 
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Seedz

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Use the lamp cord argument. Two male plugs don't go together, so the lights don't come on.
That's a terrible analogy, you're assuming that the lamp comes on when plugging the male connector into the female outlet. The fallacy is that the connection does not guarantee the light to come on; it is the electricity that makes the filament burn, and shine.
 
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hannahcorn

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Are you saying that only Homosexuals are capable of performing lustful acts under the gravitation of temptation?

Do you realize that the contemporary context of sexuality today is totally different than it was 2000 years ago?

Did you know that the term "Homosexual" is a modern word?

I suggest you educate yourself on 1st century Greco-Roman culture first.
then please explain the difference?
 

notuptome

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Are you saying that only Homosexuals are capable of performing lustful acts under the gravitation of temptation?

Do you realize that the contemporary context of sexuality today is totally different than it was 2000 years ago?

Did you know that the term "Homosexual" is a modern word?

I suggest you educate yourself on 1st century Greco-Roman culture first.
Most modern folks have no idea what you are talking about then you call it sodomy.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
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Seedz

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then please explain the difference?
There was no sexual orientation in those days (2000 years ago or more). What we think of as straight and gay today, only makes sense in today's culture. These modern ideas of sexual orientation were developed by western thinkers in the 19th and 20th centuries.

You have to understand that everything that Christianity thinks they know about Sexual orientation today is based solely on this modern idea, and we interpolate our own modern views onto what Paul wrote 2 thousand years ago. You cannot possibly claim to know what Paul meant exactly when he wrote his letter to the Romans. Read the passage Carefully Romans 1:18-32, and let me know if that absolutely is mentioning sexual acts. Look at the original text, use an interlinear presentation of the wording so you can see what I mean.

In Leviticus it says that man shall not lie with a man like he does with a woman... Again, not only is this the old testament, but is it possible that our modern mind has added meaning that was not originally there?

It is like if you write a book on social media, and you mention hashtags, and memes and different things like that. If someone reads that book 2000 years from now, they probably won't understand what the heck you really meant when you said "ermahgerd" or something similar.
 

Tommy379

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If homosexuality is a perversion ... a**l sex, then I would have to also say the o*** sex is a perversion. If the natural way is P/V, then anything else is unnatural and wrong.
God finds men who lay with men an abomination.
Nowhere is God referring to married couples engaging in felatio, cunnilingus, analingus, or buggery.

Why are there asterisks in your words?