Will Some Christians Go To Hell?

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Christians do not go to hell.
 

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1 Cor 15:21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. 22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. 23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. 24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. 25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet. 26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

Oh no a Universalist
 

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1 Cor 15:21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. 22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. 23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. 24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. 25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet. 26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
LOL not all are interested in being saved. In fact many flatly refuse to heed the gospel call to be saved.

John 3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.

For the cause of Christ
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Chester

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There will be no Christians in hell period.
Right! But this is quite different than saying that there might be in hell some people who at one time had been Christians.
 

Chester

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Christians do not go to hell.
I saw this identical statement posted several times here:

Sometimes a statement must be clarified in order to be of value (especially when you have a broad audience like we do here).

For example: I looked on Wikepedia and they say that 31.2% of the world's population is "Christian".
Based on this definition do you stick by your statement that "Christians do not go to hell"?

For example: The KJV often calls the "grave" hell - So is it true then that Christians do not go to "hell"?
 
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1 Cor 15:21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. 22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. 23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. 24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. 25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet. 26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
That's cute but the context of the epistle is to the recipients and all others in Christ, not the world at large. :D

It would be nice if those in Christendom would understand the true usage of the word all, in context. If not persons arrive at heretical views such as in the above quote.
 

notuptome

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That's cute but the context of the epistle is to the recipients and all others in Christ, not the world at large. :D

It would be nice if those in Christendom would understand the true usage of the word all, in context. If not persons arrive at heretical views such as in the above quote.
He represents one extreme you the other. If his error is obvious and it is what of yours?

For the cause of Christ
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LOL not all are interested in being saved. In fact many flatly refuse to heed the gospel call to be saved.

John 3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
John 12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw (1670) all men unto me.

The primary definition of 1670 is not draw but dragg:
Strong's Greek: 1670. ἑλκύω (helkó) -- to drag
 

notuptome

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I saw this identical statement posted several times here:

Sometimes a statement must be clarified in order to be of value (especially when you have a broad audience like we do here).

For example: I looked on Wikepedia and they say that 31.2% of the world's population is "Christian".
Based on this definition do you stick by your statement that "Christians do not go to hell"?

For example: The KJV often calls the "grave" hell - So is it true then that Christians do not go to "hell"?
It's the oldest axiom in the world. Sitting in church and calling yourself Christian does not make you Christian any more than standing in the garage and calling yourself a car makes you a car.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 

notuptome

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That's cute but the context of the epistle is to the recipients and all others in Christ, not the world at large. :D

It would be nice if those in Christendom would understand the true usage of the word all, in context. If not persons arrive at heretical views such as in the above quote.
1 Cor 15:21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. 22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. 23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. 24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. 25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet. 26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

Yes, the epistle is to the Corinthians, but the message is about every man.
 
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Have you ever considered taking a verse an placing it into its proper biblical context?

John 12:33 This he said, signifying what death he should die.

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Yes, But after his death he would draw all men to him and drag them if need be.
 

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God fries His Children?? Are you serious? He may chastise for a season for their betterment but fry?? :confused: Nawwww.
 

Chester

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God fries His Children?? Are you serious? He may chastise for a season for their betterment but fry?? :confused: Nawwww.
LOL! Agreed! God would never fry his children! But he sure will fry unbelievers!
 

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BROTHER when GOP speaks the spirit within me testifies to itself that GOP's words are God's words. I FEEL God's spirit moving in power throu GOP's words and witness and testimony and nearly every single word that flows from his heart out his mouth.

What do i feel when i read your words??? nada. no spirit/no fire, no agreement from God/ Please consider this prayerfully. If i may be of service to you in any way please ask me.
Dear Joey,

May I lovingly point out to you that making statements like you do above will not help you much on this forum. I am not doubting or accusing you of making up your words; that is not the point of what I am trying to say.

You are trying to use the testimony of the Spirit in you as proof that your position is the correct one. Anyone can make up words like these (and it is done many, many times on this forum!) to try to gain a hearing. The fact of the matter is that on this forum it will only weaken your position if you write like you do in the quote above.

The best way to write on this forum is just to write what Scripture says and argue from that viewpoint. And then demonstrate Christian character, love, and humility by what you write and how you write it.
 

Chester

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No one who has by faith trusted into the correct message of salvation will lose it and make hell....the verbiage, Greek verb tense, context all teach eternal salvation and life that cannot be lost. A child of God by faith is dealt with as SON OR DAUGHTER and whipped or loses reward for sin or unfaithfulness....not cast away!

Those who teach differently deny context, verb tense and serve a weak false god incapable of keeping HIS PROMISES...

Jesus, MY GOD will never leave me nor forsake me and will finish and complete the good work of faith HE BEGAN IN ME.
Since this thread was started by one concerned about Christians who leave the faith, I thought I would correct the statement above to fit the way I think that Scripture clearly teaches. LOL! (A lot is the same, but there are a few key differences!)

Some who have by faith trusted into the correct message of salvation may cease believing and thus make hell....the verbiage, Greek verb tense, context all teach eternal salvation for those who keep believing in Christ (unbelievers go to hell). A child of God by faith is dealt with as a SON OR DAUGHTER and may be whipped or loses reward for sin, but is cast away (I Cor. 9:27 LOL!) for ongoing unfaithfulness (unbelief).

Those who teach differently deny context, and verb tense. (I will leave out the next statement: I don't like making such judgment calls!)

Jesus, MY GOD will never leave me nor forsake me and will finish and complete the good work of faith HE BEGAN IN ME.
 

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[SUP]4 [/SUP]It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit,[SUP]5 [/SUP]who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the coming age[SUP]6 [/SUP]and who have fallen[SUP][c][/SUP] away, to be brought back to repentance. To their loss they are crucifying the Son of God all over again and subjecting him to public disgrace.[SUP]7 [/SUP]Land that drinks in the rain often falling on it and that produces a crop useful to those for whom it is farmed receives the blessing of God.[SUP]8 [/SUP]But land that produces thorns and thistles is worthless and is in danger of being cursed. In the end it will be burned.

Who is the author writing about? Is he writing about a non believer? I think this passage is about me. I think it is written about a mature enlightened Christian who has spent time with the Holy spirit flowing through them.


I think that Hebrews 6:5,6 are really fairly simple to understand:

In verse 6 the two verbs "crucify again" and "put him to shame" are both present participles. Greek present participles used as adverbs describe action happening at the same time as the main verb. Hence: it is impossible to renew them again to repentance while at the same time they are crucifying the Son of God and while at the same time they are putting him to an open shame.

To be able to repent, all the person needs to do is to stop "crucifying the Son of God" and "putting him to an open shame". Not saying it is easy to get a person to stop doing that, but it is not impossible!

It is indeed possible for a believer to fall away, but if he stops the action of the two verbs in verse 6, then repentance and restoration is possible.

 

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1 John 5:16
If you see any brother or sister commit a sin that does not lead to death, you should pray and God will give them life. I refer to those whose sin does not lead to death. There is a sin that leads to death. I am not saying that you should pray about that.

The sin that leads to death?? Only one. Blaspheming the holy spirit. This verse is not talking about physical death but spiritual death, in other words, damnation.


What is the sin unto death?

The text literally means "sin which leads to death". I think it means that if a person continues ongoingly in sin without repentance it will eventually lead to spiritual death (that is: he will become an unbeliever). If John had meant the "blasphemy of the Holy Spirit", he could have used those words. The imperative in the text is that we are to pray for a Christian brother who is sinning before he becomes spiritually dead.
 

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For example: The KJV often calls the "grave" hell - So is it true then that Christians do not go to "hell"?
But that is a reference to Sheol/Hades, not the actual grave. And no genuine Christian goes to Hades either. Every believer goes directly to Christ in Heaven.

Had the word Christian in the title been put in quotes, that would have indicated something different. But the poster simply put Christian there because he believes that genuine Christians also go to Hell. Which is absolute rubbish.