Will Some NonChristians (Unbelievers) Get to Heaven?
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Here is what the Word says - (The active and Alive Word!):
"And this is the testimony: God has given us Eternal Life and this life is in His Son. He who has the Son has life, he who does not have the Son of God, does not have life. (1 John 5:11-12)
But to all who did receive Him, who believed in His name, He gave the right to become children of God..(John 1:12).
"...because if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. For with the heart one believes and is justified, and with the mouth one confesses and is saved.....Everyone who believes in Him will not be put to shame." (Romans 10:9-11).
"Very truly I tell you, whoever hears my word and believes Him who sent Me has eternal life and will not be judged but has crossed over from death to life. (John 5:24).
Nothing impure will ever enter it, nor will anyone who does what is shameful or deceitful, but only those whose names are written in the Lamb's book of life. (Revelations 21:27).
As for you, you were dead in your transgressions and sins, (Ephesians 2:1). This is the standpoint of the non-believer.
"And this is the testimony: God has given us Eternal Life and this life is in His Son. He who has the Son has life, he who does not have the Son of God, does not have life. (1 John 5:11-12)
But to all who did receive Him, who believed in His name, He gave the right to become children of God..(John 1:12).
"...because if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. For with the heart one believes and is justified, and with the mouth one confesses and is saved.....Everyone who believes in Him will not be put to shame." (Romans 10:9-11).
"Very truly I tell you, whoever hears my word and believes Him who sent Me has eternal life and will not be judged but has crossed over from death to life. (John 5:24).
Nothing impure will ever enter it, nor will anyone who does what is shameful or deceitful, but only those whose names are written in the Lamb's book of life. (Revelations 21:27).
As for you, you were dead in your transgressions and sins, (Ephesians 2:1). This is the standpoint of the non-believer.
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Questions are also asked to stimulate thought.
Sometimes it is better to allow the other to find the answers on their own
Any ways, you asked me about some relative recently? Whether or not he was saved? I wonder why you think I would be able to tell you the eternal fate of his soul. First of all, I have no idea if he was a true believer, or a nominal Christian. You probably don't even know that. Only God knows his heart. Also, there is the matter of 1 John 2:19. I myself was born and raised in a fairly strict religious household, but walked away from "all that" when I was sixteen, not coming to a saving faith until I was almost fifty.
Sometimes it is better to allow the other to find the answers on their own
Any ways, you asked me about some relative recently? Whether or not he was saved? I wonder why you think I would be able to tell you the eternal fate of his soul. First of all, I have no idea if he was a true believer, or a nominal Christian. You probably don't even know that. Only God knows his heart. Also, there is the matter of 1 John 2:19. I myself was born and raised in a fairly strict religious household, but walked away from "all that" when I was sixteen, not coming to a saving faith until I was almost fifty.
Interesting you remember the story of my brother-in-law: shows your heart of compassion and love!
For those who have never heard the name of Jesus, they still have the witness of the natural world that God has created: And according to Romans 1 they are thus "without excuse". Unless they come to God through Jesus Christ there will be no salvation.
Romans 1:19-21 King James Version (KJV)
Romans 1:19-21 King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]19 [/SUP]Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.[SUP]20 [/SUP]For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:[SUP]21 [/SUP]Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
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So without the Bible no one knew the gospel?
Before there was Rome, the people in that area knew a God named Jove. Jove is the same word as Jehovah. And then the people whittled him down to Jupiter.
Before there was China, those people knew Jah. Jah is the same word as Jehovah. The people then whittled down that God to Tao.
God is capable and has already shown he is of bringing whomever he chooses from where ever they live, whenever they live. God IS the Gospel!
Gospel = Good News. God is the good news.
Before there was Rome, the people in that area knew a God named Jove. Jove is the same word as Jehovah. And then the people whittled him down to Jupiter.
Before there was China, those people knew Jah. Jah is the same word as Jehovah. The people then whittled down that God to Tao.
God is capable and has already shown he is of bringing whomever he chooses from where ever they live, whenever they live. God IS the Gospel!
Gospel = Good News. God is the good news.
I believe that some non-Christians will have a shot in the millennium, that's what its for, a time of teaching and obedience. "Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years" (Revelation 20:6).
We need to differentiate between non-Christians and unbelievers, a non-Christian could be described as one who never heard the gospel and never had a chance to accept Christ. An unbeliever is one who heard the Word but rejected it. I believe the latter will perish, but the former will experience the millennium because they never had an opportunity in the flesh (aborted babies, etc). God is fair., no righteous God would condemn an unknowing person who had no knowledge of Truth; "Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do". Remember too, after his resurrection, Jesus "Went and preached unto the spirits in prison". (1 Peter 3;19) Why? "For this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit" (1 Peter 4:6).. jmo
We need to differentiate between non-Christians and unbelievers, a non-Christian could be described as one who never heard the gospel and never had a chance to accept Christ. An unbeliever is one who heard the Word but rejected it. I believe the latter will perish, but the former will experience the millennium because they never had an opportunity in the flesh (aborted babies, etc). God is fair., no righteous God would condemn an unknowing person who had no knowledge of Truth; "Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do". Remember too, after his resurrection, Jesus "Went and preached unto the spirits in prison". (1 Peter 3;19) Why? "For this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit" (1 Peter 4:6).. jmo
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Verse for that? (that the concept of "age of accountability" is not biblical)
We have already had this dance and I could care less what you buy or don't buy..David said he would go to and see his one week old dead son with confidence and the ability to go worship God with no evidence of grief...David was a saved man and he did not go to hell...maybe start buying the truth instead of what is hammered out on your own obstinate anvil! And no way, shape or form did I indicate 4 ways...your starting to sound like the workers for who embellish everything said with your own words!
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Evidently you are not familiar with the book of Revelation which plainly tells us that there will come a time when an angel will fly over the earth proclaiming the Gospel (Rev 14:6). Either that, or you do not believe the Word of God.
And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,
And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,