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I recognize I'm going to open a bit of a powder keg here... but it's something that's been on my mind since I was a young teenager. I'm not trying to start a "battle of the sexes", but I want genuine, thought out, informed opinions and responses.

I am female. I am constantly feeling like men find me inferior simply because I'm female, and when I read verses like 1 Timothy 2:12-15 I get choked up because I also feel like... God treats me inferior to men. Can you imagine what it's like to know my American culture treats me with more equality then my Church or Bible?

I feel like the Bible views me as nothing more then birthing and marriage fodder. I'm not a man-hater or out to set myself above anyone else, so why do the men around me get that leg up simply because they were (lucky?) enough to be born men.

Is it really unreasonable for me to feel this way? Civil rights activists like Malcom X have said, "If you are born black you are born in a prison." Is it wrong for me to say, "If you are born female, you are born to be submissive to men and are forbidden to achieve status in the church, less you are babysitting children."

Am I bitter? Probably. I don't want to be told what I can't do and watch others be encouraged simply because of my gender. (Something I can't control.) Equality means a lot to me.
 
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I differ from you Kay Kay in that I see what the Lord has given the women in our giftings and purpose as absolutely relevant and necessary. Men & women are made up differently for Gods good reason for the good of mankind I'm sure. I'm an ex-professional stay at home by choice mom. I think the biggest challenge today is my attitude in how I look at Gods word and my life. Because it is Gods word I do not question it. I think we need to focus on the point that our status within the church whether you are a "babysitter" or clean the toilets in service to the Lord... It is not about status, it is about serving the Lord wherever he calls us. Serving the Lord to me includes honoring the very WORD of God. I am wonderful in his sight no matter how I serve him and I dont need to have a high position within the Church to serve the Lord... Who are we to require equal rights in the eyes of the Lord? We are different from men & I'm thankful for that and wouldnt have it any other way! I definitely will not question the Bible because it is not just a how to book, it is the word of GOD and surpasses our human understanding. I do understand where you are coming from in your post, As an independant professional woman I too had issues with some of these things. I'm thankful I've come to understanding beyond that now and acknowledge that my position in the eyes of the Lord is just as important as my pastors. For if I support my friends & acquantances in their problems (with the word of God), clean toilets & mold the minds of the youth I do very important work indeed.
 
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Belgian_Pilot

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Dear Kay Kay,

I agree with Imoss. Please do not forget God created you. He does not fail His job. I'm certain God has a unique plan with you.

God bless you :)
 
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Kay_Kay

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I differ from you Kay Kay in that I see what the Lord has given the women in our giftings and purpose as absolutely relevant and necessary. Men & women are made up differently for Gods good reason for the good of mankind I'm sure. I'm an ex-professional stay at home by choice mom. I think the biggest challenge today is my attitude in how I look at Gods word and my life. Because it is Gods word I do not question it. I think we need to focus on the point that our status within the church whether you are a "babysitter" or clean the toilets in service to the Lord... It is not about status, it is about serving the Lord wherever he calls us. Serving the Lord to me includes honoring the very WORD of God. I am wonderful in his sight no matter how I serve him and I dont need to have a high position within the Church to serve the Lord... Who are we to require equal rights in the eyes of the Lord? We are different from men & I'm thankful for that and wouldnt have it any other way! I definitely will not question the Bible because it is not just a how to book, it is the word of GOD and surpasses our human understanding. I do understand where you are coming from in your post, As an independant professional woman I too had issues with some of these things. I'm thankful I've come to understanding beyond that now and acknowledge that my position in the eyes of the Lord is just as important as my pastors. For if I support my friends & acquantances in their problems (with the word of God), clean toilets & mold the minds of the youth I do very important work indeed.
I see and understand that men and women are built differently. But I also don't think that I am only just my "gifts and purpose". I'm human, with a soul, with ambitions and intelligence. I'm not a walking womb and nursery worker. And what about women who don't want children or want to raise children. (Like me?) Am I just wasted gifts because the only thing that makes me unique to men (child-birthing) is something I won't pursue?

I don't need a high position in the church either. I'm asking why the right to be a church leader is denied simply on gender. If God told me women can't vote I'm going to ask why. I might not even care about voting, but I'd like to know why men are allowed to walk to the voting booths and I have to be left behind.

Why are men allowed to be so much more then women?
 
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I honestly dont think you do see and understand this. I am a very outgoing person who when I was on stage being mc I thought WOW!! THIS is where I belong! That being said, perhaps I do belong there in a way that is suited to womens ministries. I'm sure you wont like me saying that as it should be my right to get up on stage and preach to all. It should be but it isn't and I dont question the word of God even though I dont like it. Fair or unfair it is what it is, it is the word of GOD, I prefer not to question God but to lean on him and rely on him to show me my path. You should definitely pray if you have the heart of ministry and you definitely have a place! Especially because you are a strong gifted woman. We need cling to Gods word, to treasure Gods word... even the parts we dont like.
 
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Because of what Adam did all mankind is borned with a sin nature, and I don't like my sin nature no more than you like submitting to man. but because of what Eve did, God gave us the order of the Family and Church. Now you won't like this but your issue is pride, you have not submitted yourself to God, You think that He is unfair, that the world is more fairer when it comes to women than Him or the Church( which is His House). I am not saying you are not saved. No matter what color our skin, or what sex we are. we can still serve God and give it all we have. don't think on the things you can't have but Praise Him for the things you do have. I often think if I had a million dollars how much more I could serve Him, but I can't be envious of those that do have it , the same with You, you feel you could serve him better as a pastor or a leader of the Chruch, But Bibically a women can't have authority over man, Don't think of yourself as a prisoner because of your sex but think of being set free to serve him in the things He has blessed you with, I'm not sure I ought to quote this But Paul said that he had learned to be content in all things. this person was unlucky( as you would say) to be borned a woman and a sinner But she didn't let that stop her from submitting to God and Humbling herself before Him, and Jesus said of this woman something That is never recorded him saying of any man,

Matt. 26:6 Now when Jesus was in Bethany, in the house of Simon the leper,7There came unto him a woman having an alabaster box of very precious ointment, and poured it on his head, as he sat at meat.8But when his disciples saw it, they had indignation, saying, To what purpose is this waste?9For this ointment might have been sold for much, and given to the poor.10When Jesus understood it, he said unto them, Why trouble ye the woman? for she hath wrought a good work upon me.11For ye have the poor always with you; but me ye have not always.12For in that she hath poured this ointment on my body, she did it for my burial.13Verily I say unto you, Wheresoever this gospel shall be preached in the whole world, there shall also this, that this woman hath done, be told for a memorial of her.
 
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If wanting to be treated like an equal is wrong, I don't want to be right. I am being honest, that is how I feel.
 
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Well lets deal with the easiest thing first...bitterness. If you are, in fact, bitter about the circumstances described, then that has to be dealt with. God calls on His people to be joyful no matterthe present circumstances. Even in the worst of times God is still God, and He still loves us and desperately wants us to seek Him in all things. Delight in who He is and you will find peace.

Now let me say that, as you have experienced personally, my view as expressed following is in the minority in conservative Christianity. This fact alone does not bother me because I feel like I've looked at this issue pretty thoroughly.

Here are some of the other passages you have probably encountered and struggled with, besides the one you mentioned (1 Tim 2:12-15): 1 Corinthians 11:3-16 & 14:34-35; Ephesians 5:21-22; 1 Timothy 3:1-12 (for the exclusion of women); and the elephant in the room, Genesis 2:4-3:24. (There are others, these I hope to address briefly).

First a couple of relatively broad historical observations. A) Women in Greco-Roman culture during the first century were second (or third or forth) class citizens, no question about it. This is the context of Paul's ministry. B) Jesus treated women very well, held them in high regard, and elevated their status above the norm during his ministry, yet He never explicitly addressed the "role" of women. It simply was never the focus of His ministry to address these types of issues.

One last preparatory comment: In the interepretation of scripture it is usually agreed that any good theological statement must be able to fairly explain (NOT explain away) ALL relevant passages of scripture. The inability to explain some of the relevant passages, or explaining away passages, is the sign of a belief system or theology that is not fully biblical.

Now...brief comments on each of the passages listed above:
1 Cor 11:3cf- the word "head" here does not mean the same thing each time it is used. In verse three we tend to assume it means "authority", and yet in verses five and six the reference to a shaved head clearly means a literal head. The key to interpreting this passage is the relationship between Christ and God has His head. Whatever relationship is described by that metaphor, it must apply in the same manner to woman and man.

1 Cor 14:34-35 Two comments on this- first, most scholars agree that this verse was probably added by later editors of the text, because in various manuscripts it is located in several places (here or at the end of the chapter being most common). These two verses in this place seem to break up an otherwise coherent thought bridging vv 33 and 36. Secondly, scholars generally agree that the presence of temples in Corinth in which women played a prominent role by giving "prophetic utterances" may have lead to similar practices finding there way into the local churches as pagans converted to Christ. It is highly possible at least that these verses are meant to address a very specific and very local issue, which would have been highly disruptive.

Ephesians 5:22-23 "Submit to your husband as to the Lord" And how do you submit to the Lord? Is it with fear or resentment of His Lordship? Does He wield His authority as a tool of power or as a service to those over whom He is Lord? You should have no fear or resentment of Christ, nor of your husband or of men in the church in general. I know this doesn't resolve the idea that the husband is in authority and the wife is not, but read on to find the answer to that question.

1 Timothy 2:12-3:12 In 1 Tim 1:3 Paul reveals that Timothy is located in Ephesus, which is the destination of this letter accordingly. As we know from Acts 19, Ephesus is the location of the pagan temple of Artemis. Artemis was the pagan godess of childbirth, virginity and fertility. This should shed some light on 2:15. As in Corinth, women played a prominent role in the local pagan worship. This may explain why women were excluded from leadership in the local Christian worship.

And the biggie: Genesis 2:4-3:24 The main thing I have to say about this one is that the woman's desire for her husband and his rule over her is a result of the fall, not a condition before it. We do not try to emulate other post-fall conditions in Christianity, why seek to maintain this one?

Like I said before, all of these passages and many other must fit one big picture consistently in order for that big picture to be an accurate description of God's plan for men and women. Here's the only explanation I can see that explains every relevant passage within it's biblical context and which preserves the greater purpose of God:

Paul and other biblical writers had one overarching purpose: to spread the good news of Jesus Christ and to make disciples of all converts. Inevitably, this goal came up against many obstacles, whether lack of faith, liguistic or cultural obstacles, or others. In the case of men and women, the prevailing cultural norms could have been a major obstacle to the spread of the gospel. You see, at the foot of the cross all are the same before God- hopeless, lost, enmity-bearing people whom God dearly loves and wants to reconcile to Himself. Before God we are all equal. Paul states this in Galatians 3:28. Within the prevailing culture(s) of the first century Roman empire, however, such equality would have been a stumbling block to many converts. Especially Jews (Gentiles our equals!? Meh!) and slaveholders (my slave is my equal!? MEH!). This also included women and wives. Well, these kinds of equality came about as a result of the spread of the gospel, but they were also hard for many to accept. Many, doubtless, could not accept these truths and thus could not accept the Lordship of Christ. So what did Paul and others do? They told slaves to continue to be good workers, told Gentiles to hold Jews in high regard, and told wives to continue to submit to their husbands. This was not to be the permanent solution, only a concession to the cultural norms of the day SO THAT THE GOSPEL COULD INCREASE AMONG THE PEOPLE. After the gospel comes in, it is time for people to change in light of the work that Christ has done. Sometimes this came more slowly than others. Nevertheless, it is better for slaves to work, Gentiles to respect, and wives to submit (and meat eaters to abstain) on behalf of the weaker brother so that the gospel would prevail. It was a service from those who society viewd as weaker to those whom God knew were weaker.

Once the gospel has a firm hold on the hearts and minds of His people, however, it is time for cultural norms to give way to heavenly norms!

Just my two cents. :)
 
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I believe in women’s rights. In my church, our last bishop was a woman.
 
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Kay_Kay,

I am intrigued with your concern and how you have come across without being pretentious about it. You have a legitimate concern and I would like to address it briefly and it may be a little unorthodox. What if a man said to you that he would like to be the one that actually gets pregnant and raises the children as a stay home dad, would you think of him to be strange? I know I would and that's all there is to it. It is strange because we are not designed for that, nor is it in our heart as a man to be that way. I believe that a woman can be just as intelligent as any man and can receive wisdom from God. The man is also built differently than the woman for good reason.

The woman is a better responder than the man and has a greater capacity to love. Men get sentimental in relationships and it often takes a woman to snap him out of it. As a rule the woman is a better steward of what she has and has the ability to discern between good and evil and won't keep silent about it, and that's a good thing. The woman often is the better decision maker but she should honor her husband in that area in marriage. She should be free to give as much input as she deems necessary without being over-ruled. She can manage a household so she would have no problem with a business. Most men think short term and the woman thinks both short and long term and is probably better at picking out insurance.

If it is not in your heart to raise children then maybe it is better that you not get married to a man that does. There are many positions within an active church that a woman can preside over, but she will always be under her pastor or an elder. These men are there to oversee to make sure that you get what you need and offer guidance and help when needed and provide protection against those that would challenge you in your position and duties. If any man as a lay person or holding an office within the church looks and treats any women without love and honor, that man has no understanding of the body of Christ and the place that a woman has in that body and family of God.

I want to clarify one thing. The woman is never called to be a pastor nor is she to usurp authority over the man. That is not her place and she should refrain from doing so. She should pray instead and be led of God and if she wants to offer advice or communicate wisdom, she should be free to do so in meekness and with grace. This kind of woman is a pearl of great value to her husband and family, to her friends and to her pastor and the local church. In this she is content yet she can grow in leaps and bounds with God's favor and will be exalted by God in due time, not to a position (per se) within the church, but in the prosperity of her soul through the grace of God and will reign with Christ in a degree of glory that will be given to her inwardly and outwardly by Jesus Christ at the judgment seat of the believer. If you want the verses on this I can give them to you.
 
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its simple really....sometimes its just the way it is...not trying to be a jerk...there somethings that my flesh desires..but i dont do it..cuz god said not to..and your not a "peice of meat"..so be happy! :)
 
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The Bible says that a man and a woman are equal in the Lord.That is because the only thing that separates a man and a woman is the flesh.The spirit and soul are the same.In heaven there is no gender but all saints are as one with no difference of male and female as on earth.
A man and woman are equal in the Lord and that is because there is no need for an authority structure in heaven as on earth but Jesus is the Lord and all saints are equal worshipping Jesus.

Do not feel inferior because you are a woman.Remember that God said that a woman is a help mate and can give her opinion on things with her husband.A woman only has to listen to her husband if it is in line with God's word.The husband's job is to lead the house in the ways of the Lord and anything that is not in line with that a woman does not have to listen.If it is not in line do not cause strife and argue though but always do the things of the Lord.

The reason that God put the husband in charge of running the household which can only be in the ways in the Lord and the only reason that God said only a man should preach to a congregation and not a woman is because God wants an authority structure on earth so that things get done effectively without fighting over whose in charge.It does not mean that a man is better than a woman but God has to have an authority structure on earth.

The authority structure of God on earth is God,Christ,man,woman and woman should have uncut hair because of the angels.People are above angels in the authority structure of God and saints will have a higher position in heaven than that of the angels for they will rule with God in the millennial reign of Christ and have a glorified body like God's glorified body privileges the angels will never have.

The Bible says that the angels desire to look in to the salvation of the saints and that is because the salvation of the saints is greater than the angels.The Bible says that the angels are ministering spirits of all those that shall obtain salvation.Angels are actually the servants of saints on this earth.
The Bible Bible says do not lose your salvation by giving honor to angels but why would a saint want to do that seeing they are actually above an angel.

It is not that a man is better than a woman it is that a God has to have an authority structure on earth so someone has to lead the house and lead the Church.

In heaven the authority structure is God who is Jesus,the saints,angels which means the saints will be higher in glory than the angels.

A man is not better than a woman but God has to have an authority structure on earth so things get dome effectively with no fighting.The military,government,business or any other institution has an authority structure so things run smooth and God has an authority structure so things get done smoothly.

But in the Lord which pertains to the heavenly kingdom there is a man and woman are equal.A woman gets as blessed as man on earth as well as in heaven.

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If wanting to be treated like an equal is wrong, I don't want to be right. I am being honest, that is how I feel.
I would feel the same way.

Christians have traditionally misinterpreted Paul's first century attempt to show us that women and men are equal.

Like I have said before

Men love your wives like Christ loves the church and women submit to you husbands was a radical statement back then because it moves women from the status of property to human.

Paul was telling the early church that women were no longer to be viewed as possession, but fully human. The fact is submitting to your husband is the way Christ loves the Church; just like loving your wife is submitting to her.

Instead of using these verses to imprison women, we need to continue Paul's attempt to untangle centuries of oppression. I think it is tragic that we seem to interpret scripture is the opposite way it is supposed to be interpreted.

Great topic.

Women were the first Evangelists - Jesus had close friendship with women - the NT mentions women by name - all of these things were unheard of during the 1st century.
 
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If wanting to be treated like an equal is wrong, I don't want to be right. I am being honest, that is how I feel.


I am sorry to be the one that breaks this to you but the Bible never teaches equality, some were born in slavery some free , some were born rich some poor some male some female some were born gentiles some Jews . it was man who said all men are to be equal so go ahead and trust man over your creator. that is another Choice that you have when it comes to something that God has blessed you with. but sounds like you have already made your decision. might want to check with a penecostal church, or a full gospel church before you turn completely away from God they don't believe paul's teaching was of God they allow woman pastors


Jos 24:15And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.
 
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I simply do not buy the reasoning that 'man and women are equal! But they were created to have different roles" - so women are equal to men, but created to act in an inferior role? Ridiculous!
 
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i remember when i asked women of my former church of women could be pastor...i think they got offended cuz the woman was a pastor..and i read corithians and timothy that says woman cant speak at church....so i was lik "wait"...so i asked and they said it didnt apply to the time of now...so was like we cant pick and choose...and i got confused lol and i still dont know how i feel about that...
 
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I would feel the same way.

Christians have traditionally misinterpreted Paul's first century attempt to show us that women and men are equal.

Like I have said before

Men love your wives like Christ loves the church and women submit to you husbands was a radical statement back then because it moves women from the status of property to human.

Paul was telling the early church that women were no longer to be viewed as possession, but fully human. The fact is submitting to your husband is the way Christ loves the Church; just like loving your wife is submitting to her.

Instead of using these verses to imprison women, we need to continue Paul's attempt to untangle centuries of oppression. I think it is tragic that we seem to interpret scripture is the opposite way it is supposed to be interpreted.

Great topic.

Women were the first Evangelists - Jesus had close friendship with women - the NT mentions women by name - all of these things were unheard of during the 1st century.

How do we misintreprete that a leader of the church must be the HUSBAND of one wife
talking about misintrepreting something what do you do with this, are you saying that paul was teaching against God, and if this is the case then we need to follow paul instead of God? wow simply Unbelievable!!!!!!! It was GOD himself that said :


Ge 3:16Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.
 
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Jesus set us free - why are we still trying to hold people back? The NT was a radical text because it violated all the social norms of the day - women had never even been considered a part of church before - they must have been excited to be involved and maybe Paul felt like he had to help shape a new role for them because there was no guidelines for female behavior in church. To avoid chaos - he provided the church with some brand new social norms for proper behavior for women in church.
 
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How do we misintreprete that a leader of the church must be the HUSBAND of one wife
talking about misintrepreting something what do you do with this, are you saying that paul was teaching against God, and if this is the case then we need to follow paul instead of God? wow simply Unbelievable!!!!!!! It was GOD himself that said :


Ge 3:16Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.
Jesus' idea of leadership is serving and submitting to those you are serving. Paul is continuing Jesus' teachings.
 
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Well lets deal with the easiest thing first...bitterness. If you are, in fact, bitter about the circumstances described, then that has to be dealt with. God calls on His people to be joyful no matterthe present circumstances. Even in the worst of times God is still God, and He still loves us and desperately wants us to seek Him in all things. Delight in who He is and you will find peace.

Now let me say that, as you have experienced personally, my view as expressed following is in the minority in conservative Christianity. This fact alone does not bother me because I feel like I've looked at this issue pretty thoroughly.

Here are some of the other passages you have probably encountered and struggled with, besides the one you mentioned (1 Tim 2:12-15): 1 Corinthians 11:3-16 & 14:34-35; Ephesians 5:21-22; 1 Timothy 3:1-12 (for the exclusion of women); and the elephant in the room, Genesis 2:4-3:24. (There are others, these I hope to address briefly).

First a couple of relatively broad historical observations. A) Women in Greco-Roman culture during the first century were second (or third or forth) class citizens, no question about it. This is the context of Paul's ministry. B) Jesus treated women very well, held them in high regard, and elevated their status above the norm during his ministry, yet He never explicitly addressed the "role" of women. It simply was never the focus of His ministry to address these types of issues.

One last preparatory comment: In the interepretation of scripture it is usually agreed that any good theological statement must be able to fairly explain (NOT explain away) ALL relevant passages of scripture. The inability to explain some of the relevant passages, or explaining away passages, is the sign of a belief system or theology that is not fully biblical.

Now...brief comments on each of the passages listed above:
1 Cor 11:3cf- the word "head" here does not mean the same thing each time it is used. In verse three we tend to assume it means "authority", and yet in verses five and six the reference to a shaved head clearly means a literal head. The key to interpreting this passage is the relationship between Christ and God has His head. Whatever relationship is described by that metaphor, it must apply in the same manner to woman and man.

1 Cor 14:34-35 Two comments on this- first, most scholars agree that this verse was probably added by later editors of the text, because in various manuscripts it is located in several places (here or at the end of the chapter being most common). These two verses in this place seem to break up an otherwise coherent thought bridging vv 33 and 36. Secondly, scholars generally agree that the presence of temples in Corinth in which women played a prominent role by giving "prophetic utterances" may have lead to similar practices finding there way into the local churches as pagans converted to Christ. It is highly possible at least that these verses are meant to address a very specific and very local issue, which would have been highly disruptive.

Ephesians 5:22-23 "Submit to your husband as to the Lord" And how do you submit to the Lord? Is it with fear or resentment of His Lordship? Does He wield His authority as a tool of power or as a service to those over whom He is Lord? You should have no fear or resentment of Christ, nor of your husband or of men in the church in general. I know this doesn't resolve the idea that the husband is in authority and the wife is not, but read on to find the answer to that question.

1 Timothy 2:12-3:12 In 1 Tim 1:3 Paul reveals that Timothy is located in Ephesus, which is the destination of this letter accordingly. As we know from Acts 19, Ephesus is the location of the pagan temple of Artemis. Artemis was the pagan godess of childbirth, virginity and fertility. This should shed some light on 2:15. As in Corinth, women played a prominent role in the local pagan worship. This may explain why women were excluded from leadership in the local Christian worship.

And the biggie: Genesis 2:4-3:24 The main thing I have to say about this one is that the woman's desire for her husband and his rule over her is a result of the fall, not a condition before it. We do not try to emulate other post-fall conditions in Christianity, why seek to maintain this one?

Like I said before, all of these passages and many other must fit one big picture consistently in order for that big picture to be an accurate description of God's plan for men and women. Here's the only explanation I can see that explains every relevant passage within it's biblical context and which preserves the greater purpose of God:

Paul and other biblical writers had one overarching purpose: to spread the good news of Jesus Christ and to make disciples of all converts. Inevitably, this goal came up against many obstacles, whether lack of faith, liguistic or cultural obstacles, or others. In the case of men and women, the prevailing cultural norms could have been a major obstacle to the spread of the gospel. You see, at the foot of the cross all are the same before God- hopeless, lost, enmity-bearing people whom God dearly loves and wants to reconcile to Himself. Before God we are all equal. Paul states this in Galatians 3:28. Within the prevailing culture(s) of the first century Roman empire, however, such equality would have been a stumbling block to many converts. Especially Jews (Gentiles our equals!? Meh!) and slaveholders (my slave is my equal!? MEH!). This also included women and wives. Well, these kinds of equality came about as a result of the spread of the gospel, but they were also hard for many to accept. Many, doubtless, could not accept these truths and thus could not accept the Lordship of Christ. So what did Paul and others do? They told slaves to continue to be good workers, told Gentiles to hold Jews in high regard, and told wives to continue to submit to their husbands. This was not to be the permanent solution, only a concession to the cultural norms of the day SO THAT THE GOSPEL COULD INCREASE AMONG THE PEOPLE. After the gospel comes in, it is time for people to change in light of the work that Christ has done. Sometimes this came more slowly than others. Nevertheless, it is better for slaves to work, Gentiles to respect, and wives to submit (and meat eaters to abstain) on behalf of the weaker brother so that the gospel would prevail. It was a service from those who society viewd as weaker to those whom God knew were weaker.

Once the gospel has a firm hold on the hearts and minds of His people, however, it is time for cultural norms to give way to heavenly norms!

Just my two cents. :)
your two cents don't add up for paul was teaching the word of God, the jewish temple was design in different courts the high priest, the priest, the jewish men, the jewish woman and the gentiles which was ordered by God.

Ge 3:16Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.


Heb 13:7Remember them which have the rule over you, who have spoken unto you the word of God: whose faith follow, considering the end of their conversation.Heb 13:8Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.Heb 13:9Be not carried about with divers and strange doctrines. For it is a good thing that the heart be established with grace; not with meats, which have not profited them that have been occupied therein.