Would you feel comfortable owning stolen property?

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Dino246

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Why do I sense that you have a sermon to preach?
 

Didymous

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I think you need to provide more information.
 

AxeElf

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I would probably feel comfortable owning stolen property if I did not know it was stolen, but if I knew it was stolen or if I had reason to believe it was stolen, then yeah, it would bother me. The degree to which it would bother me would be directly proportional to the value of the property--a stolen pen, I'd probably get over, but a stolen car or something? I would want to check with the authorities to be sure it was not stolen before I could enjoy ownership of it.
 

Garydavid

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I would probably feel comfortable owning stolen property if I did not know it was stolen, but if I knew it was stolen or if I had reason to believe it was stolen, then yeah, it would bother me. The degree to which it would bother me would be directly proportional to the value of the property--a stolen pen, I'd probably get over, but a stolen car or something? I would want to check with the authorities to be sure it was not stolen before I could enjoy ownership of it.
How about living in anothers home while the past owners helplessly can only look on without a home of their own?
 

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Well the question is simple. I am looking for a honest answer to this question.
My honest answer is no. For one thing, it is not possible to own something that does not belong to you and is stolen. I would neither be comfortable to be in possession of stolen property nor would I actually do it.
 

tourist

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How about living in anothers home while the past owners helplessly can only look on without a home of their own?
That is sort of like driving a car that was previously repossessed. That's life I guess. I would not consider the example you provided as stolen property.
 

AxeElf

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How about living in anothers home while the past owners helplessly can only look on without a home of their own?
Your questions are becoming more leading now, but to the extent that the home was actually STOLEN from the past owners, no, I would not feel comfortable living in it.

Now, if you're just talking about the home being "stolen" in the sense that it was legally repossessed from deadbeat owners who couldn't or wouldn't make their house payment, then I would be ok with that--but I wouldn't consider that the home was really "stolen" in that case.

You could stretch that idea to say that all of us who are not Native Americans are living on "stolen" property, but to the extent that the property has been obtained legally (no matter how fairly you think the law was written or enforced), then no, we're not living on stolen land. Most Native American tribes didn't have a concept of "owning" land anyway, so it couldn't have been stolen from their possession.
 

Garydavid

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My honest answer is no. For one thing, it is not possible to own something that does not belong to you and is stolen. I would neither be comfortable to be in possession of stolen property nor would I actually do it.
Thats actually a good answer. But what would you do if you were informed that where you live now was unjustly taken from another and these people would like to have their home back but cant have it?
 

tourist

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Thats actually a good answer. But what would you do if you were informed that where you live now was unjustly taken from another and these people would like to have their home back but cant have it?
I would probably feel bad about it but as long as I wasn't culpable in why the home was lost I would have to put it out of my mind or otherwise I may end up homeless myself along with my wife. Sadly there is a lot of un-justice in the world that results in pain and suffering. The bible says that there will always be the poor but does not relieve us the responsibility to play our part in making this a better world to live in.
 

Garydavid

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Your questions are becoming more leading now, but to the extent that the home was actually STOLEN from the past owners, no, I would not feel comfortable living in it.

Now, if you're just talking about the home being "stolen" in the sense that it was legally repossessed from deadbeat owners who couldn't or wouldn't make their house payment, then I would be ok with that--but I wouldn't consider that the home was really "stolen" in that case.

You could stretch that idea to say that all of us who are not Native Americans are living on "stolen" property, but to the extent that the property has been obtained legally (no matter how fairly you think the law was written or enforced), then no, we're not living on stolen land. Most Native American tribes didn't have a concept of "owning" land anyway, so it couldn't have been stolen from their possession.
Thats actually a good point. They didnt feel that they owned this land. And were confused as to why we felt the need to take it from them at the cost of genocide and all that they loved.
Good point you made.
 

Didymous

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Well the question is simple. I am looking for a honest answer to this question.
Your question-while simple-wasn't clear. The elf guy is much clearer on his point, and I still don't know exactly what you were seeking by your unclear question.
 

Garydavid

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Sounds more like a foreclosure.
I would probably feel bad about it but as long as I wasn't culpable in why the home was lost I would have to put it out of my mind or otherwise I may end up homeless myself along with my wife. Sadly there is a lot of un-justice in the world that results in pain and suffering. The bible says that there will always be the poor but does not relieve us the responsibility to play our part in making this a better world to live in.
Sadly i think this is the final answer. Thist post was in regards to how one might feel if not only their home but also their famlies and all else they valued. This is in regards to the american indian. Normally people get defensive about this, some dont know, some dont care. I believe you narrowed in on the answer very fast. And yes its just to bad and life just goes on.
God bless and thank you.
 

Garydavid

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Your question-while simple-wasn't clear. The elf guy is much clearer on his point, and I still don't know exactly what you were seeking by your unclear question.
The question concerns past and present events relating to American Indians.