Advice! HELP! :(

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minnesotablu

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Blaaaaaahhhh...

Okay so... I really need some advice. And I dont want to come off as if I'm whining or venting, I just want to explain my situation and hopefully someone can offer me some sort of guidence? ok... *ahem*

I'll start from the beginning. Last November, my younger brother (19) started having issues with his roommates and started hanging out at my place more and more. (I rented my uncle's basement). And soon, he stopped leaving and was soon living with us. In December, my uncle had had enough, and kicked me out. After much begging and sucking up, I weaseled my way back into his life and he let me stay. Then, in February, he once again asked me to leave (a little nicer this time), but basically said it was because of my brother and the house being too crowded and all of that. Okay. Understood. It sucked that I had to leave the place where I was comfortable (both financially, and physically) but I budgetted and was forced to deal.

In April, my brother and I moved into our own apartment. My bro hasn't held a job longer than 3 months EVER, but he had just gotten a job at a gas station and was confident in it, so we got a place and agreed to split costs evenly. Knowing his past rep, I also made sure if something happened with his job, I would be able to afford the place myself so that we wouldn't be homeless. My brother was aware of me being able to afford the apartment myself (as he's not dumb and knows how much i make a week) and he also knew that how much I make would be EXACTLY enough to live off of. Paycheck to paycheck.

Anyways, pretty much as soon as we move in, his hours at work are cut... and soon he's again, without a job. He is in the national guard, so he recieves about $200 a month from Drill weekends.

Here is my problem: Since November, I have been pretty much taking care of him financially. Yes, he did work at a gas station, but that money never lasted (he would choose to buy games and junk-food or party with his friends and buy alcohol versus helping out). When he has drill pay, he does help out and gives me some, but I have also not requested all of it--thinking he is an adult and he needs to learn to be smart with his money (buying necessities and food). He's my brother, and I dont mind helping him but it's come to the point where he's so irresponsible and ungrateful and totally disrespectful that i cant stand him.

It's gotten the worst as of lately. For the last month and a half, he has chosen to play video games and party instead of even looking for a job. When I ask him to get a job, he gets angry with me and says that me asking makes him depressed and want to do nothing. All day he sleeps, and all night he plays games. He doesn't let our dogs out when he's home, but rather lets them pee and poo everywhere (I'm pretty sure I've lost my deposit). When I do get groceries I go to work and come home and they're pretty much gone (I've even taken to hiding food and he FINDS it!). Something came up this month, so I was unable to pay rent on time and he's angry with me for it. I really dont know what to do. I am honestly beginning to hate him. I want nothing to do with him and the way he treats me. I am 21, I do not want to act like his mom.

My family is totally out of the picture, my mom said when we turned 18 "you're on your own... i did my job, now it's time to make your mistakes and make your life what it is." She loves us, but has turned to "friend" mode vs. "mom" mode. She says that my brother is my problem now, and I knew what i was getting myself into. I've TRIED talking to him, it just makes him angry and ends with him telling me to "go kill myself." I dont have any other family. My brother is it. I feel like... if i ask him to leave, I'll lose the only person I really have in my life (as I have few friends and my family doesn't speak to me.) I dont want to be alone. He really is my best friend as well as my brother.

I feel my only options are:
1.) I ask him to leave--problem... he's got no where to go, and I'll lose him as my friend.
2.) I just up and leave--he'll be forced into responsibility, but will probably end up on the streets, and i dont think i can leave all my own responsibilities behind.

I have decided that I will for SURE be gone (as in move away from this area completely)when my apartment lease is up, because emotionally I cant take it. But my lease isn't up until next April, which leaves 9 months of Hell.

What can i do? I feel so lost.
 
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1still_waters

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You're asking for some very reasonable and rational things from him Jenni. You need financial help from him if he wants to live there. You're asking that he pull his own weight and not mooch off of you.

A reasonable person would see those requests as reasonable and make the proper adjustments. The fact that he doesn't seem to grasp that he needs to pull his own weight and that it's doing you in financially, it almost makes me wonder if he's suffering from some mental disorder or chemical imbalance?

I'm not saying that as a joke. He seems to be at an age where the things you're asking would be at least 'understood' by an emotionally mature person. So what are you dealing with in that bro of yours? Is he really that immature or does he got something bigger going on in his head that needs to be dealt with?

I've only seen this failure to grasp reality and understand the basics of how life works from people with some kind of mental disorder or chemical imbalance.
 
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minnesotablu

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i know what i'm asking is reasonable, and i think he grasps that, he just doesn't care. The ONLY thing on this planet that he cares about is himself--he's made that blatently obvious.

his personality pretty much mimics my dad's... so there's a good chance he suffers from extreme depression and is probably bipolar--we have no means of getting this checked for sure so it's not like it matters.

he has such low standards of himself... convinced he sucks at life. And determined to take the easy way out of any situation. He's got his mind made up that pot is a "plant from God" therefore it's okay to smoke, and he feels no remorse stealing (i feel like i have to watch him if we go into a grocery store because he's turning clepto). I am the opposite of this, and told myself a long time ago that I would never be okay with it--as i have a conscious. It kills me that he's turned out this way :( I can't understand why...

What do i do? let him fall into the same pattern my dad was in his whole life? Stealing... Prision... Drinking... Prison... Drugs... Prison... Drinking... Prison... Drugs... Prison.............do i take him to get checked out? (this would still mean i would be paying)... ugh. i just want out! it's not my job to take care of him and i feel like emotionally i cant take it anymore... i'm gonna crack! lol i'm so not mature enough to deal with this junk. haha
 
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1still_waters

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You might have to make him hit bottom, so maybe he can wise up?
 
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1still_waters

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You might also want to look in to some free help for him somewhere. He sounds like he's somewhat imbalanced and no amount of appealing to reason will help. People act irrational, cuz they are in fact, irrational.

I know of a few folks who sound like your brother. They have bipolar or some other kind of imbalance. Once they got the right treatment..aka the right prescription drugs, they changed, got a job and lived pretty productively.
 
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I agree with stilly, easier said than done though. What I would do is i'd take his key or change the locks so you have the only key. when you leave for work, is when he leaves the apartment to look for his work, he's a guest not a room-mate and guests dont hang out at peoples houses when they arent home. When he starts to pay his way then he can have the key back. some people have a sence of entitlement. I just had to cut my brother off 2 years ago (although i was only every couple of months giving him a few hundered dollars) & guess what, his nose was outa joint but he was fine. he too suffers from depression so they use the old guilt and you feel like oh no, what if he does something to himself. You are not responsible for him or his choices in his life and you most certainly are not his mother to take care of him while he, in the prime of his life lounges the days away. Listen, God gave us free will, his choice is your couch cause its easy. Tell him if he wants to hang on a couch go live with mom. (we already know what mom will say) I know you probably dont respect that about your mom but I do. I think sometimes our chicks need to be kicked from the nest to learn to fly, unfortunately your brother landed in your nest. Anyhow, as long as he's a guest he needs to act like one & i most certainly hope you dont come home from work and clean up after him. (i highly suspect this is the case) anyway if you dont feel right about booting him out, i think the key thing will at least get him off your couch & eating your food and messing up your place while you work. Be strong & know that you are a beautiful person for caring so much for him. If he chooses to discard you for you making him stand on his own two feet then you know what the relationship is based on. Pray for the right words b4 you talk to him... btw he's in the PRIME OF HIS LIFE you should not have to support an adult male.
 
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minnesotablu

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Stilly... see... the only problem with that is if he's diagnosed bipolar, he'd be forced out of the military... and like... that's the ONLY thing diciplining him right now and keeping him human. Without the guard, he'd be into pot way more (as he wouldn't have urine tests monthly) and I know things would get worse on that end of things.

That's actually a really good idea Mossy to have him leave the house when I leave (he forgot his keys at a friends so I actually have the only copies at the moment ;)) However, he doesn't have any means of transportation and I am not going to let him have free access to my car (my car is my baby! haha) so he'd probably just sit outside our apartment and do nothing until i got home... or walk to the near by grocery store and steal stuff :S which i worry about a lot. UGH. i just dont want him to end up in jail :( I guess I could drop him off at various commercial areas around town on my way to work. I guess I'll talk to him but it's so hard! I'm tired of getting beat up emotionally... *sigh*
 
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TaylorRomans

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Well it sounds like satan tryin to get you into depression mode. I would pray abotu even if yuo have been pray harder as hard as you can for mircals come to people who truley and deeply want one so bad to throw something in their life away.
 
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Baruch

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Stilly... see... the only problem with that is if he's diagnosed bipolar, he'd be forced out of the military... and like... that's the ONLY thing diciplining him right now and keeping him human. Without the guard, he'd be into pot way more (as he wouldn't have urine tests monthly) and I know things would get worse on that end of things.

That's actually a really good idea Mossy to have him leave the house when I leave (he forgot his keys at a friends so I actually have the only copies at the moment ;)) However, he doesn't have any means of transportation and I am not going to let him have free access to my car (my car is my baby! haha) so he'd probably just sit outside our apartment and do nothing until i got home... or walk to the near by grocery store and steal stuff :S which i worry about a lot. UGH. i just dont want him to end up in jail :( I guess I could drop him off at various commercial areas around town on my way to work. I guess I'll talk to him but it's so hard! I'm tired of getting beat up emotionally... *sigh*

minnesotablu,

I can vouch for the fact that if he is doing pot, you can kiss any future he has good bye.

He shouldn't be in the military. The fact that you know he is doing drugs; you should also know that there is a way for pot smokers to buy an over the counter medicine that would throw off or hide the drug in their system from showing up in a urine test. I am not going to share that over the internet, but word does get around and the experienced know of it, I am sure.

My brother has been doing pot since high school. Been in jail several times because of it. He hears voices and so claims that is why he is smoking pot. Of course, he seems to have enough intelligence to know when to stop taking medicine for his "disorder" so as to smoke pot.

Marijuana has been known to alter a person's character to being disrespectful towards authority. My brother sure developed that over time. He is 47 now.

Several times in the past and just prior, he was into crack because of the friend he hangs out with. He has stated plainly and religiously in the past that in the use of marijuanna, he would never do crack. How did he get on it? He was stoned at the time it was offered to him.

So as much as intelligent pot smokers live in denial of the means by which the devil is devouring them, they just keep on ignoring all the ones that have gone down the drain, thinking it will never happen to them.

Maybe your brother has low self esteem, but the pot has to go. Your brother is at that state where you have to rule over him to get his life in order so he can take care of himself when you leave or die. You have to be the drill sargeant. If he doesn't like it, amazing how he finds the will and the desire to leave. Do as they do and not as they say. He is whining about you not respecting him, but it is he that is not respecting you. Remind him that you are not his mom, but if he doesn't carry his own burden, then you will be his drill sargeant because that is him disrespecting you that is causing him to get his act together.

Tell him that you have a new house rule because you CAN get in trouble for having pot on your property. No illegal drugs on the premises. If he wants to have a future, tell him to drop the drugs or else.

A high school student had his future set: planned on going to Penn State for wild life management till a friend turned him in for having pot in his school locker. The school suspended him, forbade him from joining the commencment but permitted him to graduate. Because the police were called unto the scene at the school, that was now on his record as any federal job would be in jeopardy now. His dad was called to the school to pick him up. He told his son to go on home as he had a couple errands to do and he will be home to talk to him. This christian boy that was raised in my former church... an active member of the Eagle Scout and youth group at church... killed himself. That was just recently too. The Lord has him now since he has been bought with a price and sealed as His, but he will be sorry for not trusting the Lord to help him out of that mess and find another door for his future to pursue.

All because of a "harmless" recreational drug. Time to wake up to what is a parasite to society and a person's future.

Hide the video games. Put away the game station. Tell him that he cannot play it or watch television until he has a job and is working. Also tell him that he will feel better about himself when he gets a job that he likes doing so get him going. Procrastination is a man's secret sin. Don't have him kid you. He gets mad at you; well, you have righteous anger towards him. Think a drill sargeant has been making it easy for him? Not!!!

If he doesn't repent or yield to you helping him get on his own feet, then turn him in for having pot. You cannot help anyone that is not willing to help themselves. Only God can help those that cannot help themselves.

If you do not want to turn him in, then whomever he gets the drugs from, he can live with them. Kick him out.

Jesus taught excommunication to a brother caught in trespass that repented not after being corrected privately, then with two or three witnesses, and even after being confronted by the whole assembly.

Even Paul said to put out that wicked person so he will find the reason to repent.

In any event, ask Jesus for wisdom in dealing with your brother because He knows more about him than we do, and maybe even more than you do too.
 
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sorry i missed the whole pot thing. He doesnt have pot on your property does he? This would mean a criminal record for you my beautiful sister in Christ. Think about being arrested... eieiei I pray this all works out for you.
 
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NiteGem

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M,

Your brother is hurting you and you want him to stop. You have been taking care of him and being a good sister to him, and you want him to behave like a responsible adult, and love and respect you. Does this sound accurate?

I am concerned with the possibility of mental and/or emotional illness in your brother. I would suspect that if such a condition exists, it is not likely to just disappear on its own. He may be using drugs as a way of self-medicating. He may not be able to help himself.

You are afraid that if he is diagnosed with a mental illness he will be forced out of the national guard, and he will become even less disciplined. What if he were given help for his illness, maybe prescribed meds that helped stabilize him, and he was able to hold a job and lead a happier, more productive life? He may even become more like the brother you’d like him to be.

I realize that may sound scary…it would mean taking risks and possibly messing up the one good thing he seems to have going for him (other than you).

Of course, this is assuming he actually has a mental disorder.

I offer something to consider, and my prayers for both of you. : )

Take care of yourself.
 
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minnesotablu

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minnesotablu,

I can vouch for the fact that if he is doing pot, you can kiss any future he has good bye.

He shouldn't be in the military. The fact that you know he is doing drugs; you should also know that there is a way for pot smokers to buy an over the counter medicine that would throw off or hide the drug in their system from showing up in a urine test. I am not going to share that over the internet, but word does get around and the experienced know of it, I am sure.

My brother has been doing pot since high school. Been in jail several times because of it. He hears voices and so claims that is why he is smoking pot. Of course, he seems to have enough intelligence to know when to stop taking medicine for his "disorder" so as to smoke pot.

Marijuana has been known to alter a person's character to being disrespectful towards authority. My brother sure developed that over time. He is 47 now.

Several times in the past and just prior, he was into crack because of the friend he hangs out with. He has stated plainly and religiously in the past that in the use of marijuanna, he would never do crack. How did he get on it? He was stoned at the time it was offered to him.

So as much as intelligent pot smokers live in denial of the means by which the devil is devouring them, they just keep on ignoring all the ones that have gone down the drain, thinking it will never happen to them.

Maybe your brother has low self esteem, but the pot has to go. Your brother is at that state where you have to rule over him to get his life in order so he can take care of himself when you leave or die. You have to be the drill sargeant. If he doesn't like it, amazing how he finds the will and the desire to leave. Do as they do and not as they say. He is whining about you not respecting him, but it is he that is not respecting you. Remind him that you are not his mom, but if he doesn't carry his own burden, then you will be his drill sargeant because that is him disrespecting you that is causing him to get his act together.

Tell him that you have a new house rule because you CAN get in trouble for having pot on your property. No illegal drugs on the premises. If he wants to have a future, tell him to drop the drugs or else.

A high school student had his future set: planned on going to Penn State for wild life management till a friend turned him in for having pot in his school locker. The school suspended him, forbade him from joining the commencment but permitted him to graduate. Because the police were called unto the scene at the school, that was now on his record as any federal job would be in jeopardy now. His dad was called to the school to pick him up. He told his son to go on home as he had a couple errands to do and he will be home to talk to him. This christian boy that was raised in my former church... an active member of the Eagle Scout and youth group at church... killed himself. That was just recently too. The Lord has him now since he has been bought with a price and sealed as His, but he will be sorry for not trusting the Lord to help him out of that mess and find another door for his future to pursue.

All because of a "harmless" recreational drug. Time to wake up to what is a parasite to society and a person's future.

Hide the video games. Put away the game station. Tell him that he cannot play it or watch television until he has a job and is working. Also tell him that he will feel better about himself when he gets a job that he likes doing so get him going. Procrastination is a man's secret sin. Don't have him kid you. He gets mad at you; well, you have righteous anger towards him. Think a drill sargeant has been making it easy for him? Not!!!

If he doesn't repent or yield to you helping him get on his own feet, then turn him in for having pot. You cannot help anyone that is not willing to help themselves. Only God can help those that cannot help themselves.

If you do not want to turn him in, then whomever he gets the drugs from, he can live with them. Kick him out.

Jesus taught excommunication to a brother caught in trespass that repented not after being corrected privately, then with two or three witnesses, and even after being confronted by the whole assembly.

Even Paul said to put out that wicked person so he will find the reason to repent.

In any event, ask Jesus for wisdom in dealing with your brother because He knows more about him than we do, and maybe even more than you do too.
okay... in regards to the drugs... He was caught this winter some time. the cops called me and i was the one who ended up bailing him out--if i didn't come get him they were going to take him to jail but they let him off with a warning. also, he is unaware of the drug that counter acts the pot smoking--as he failed a urine test the drill after he was caught by the police. thirdly, i informed him when it happened that if he EVER EVER EVER EVER did drugs in my presence or i suspected him of doing so that he was not going to be a part of my life (long story with my dad... but i'm just not going to get into that). so i dont think he is doing them at the moment... also, he has a really good friend who has been a really positive influence on him (and i've kinda secretly made it so that that is the only friend i'll have "nothing better to do" and will bring him to see ;)) lol so i dont think he is using... and if i ever think he is he will be out. He did make it clear that if pot was ever legalized he would do it... and i made it clear that legal or not... i would disown him.

i didn't mean to make my brother out to be a bad guy--he's really not! he is very loving and funny and my best friend (not just anyone can be my best friend ;) haha)... but he is also not a christian and has no desire to listen to anyone who wants to explain God's love. He's like going through this downward spiral and taking me down with him. I just want the spiral to stop!

I guess I'm so torn on what to do because... he is my BEST friend and my ONLY friend (in the real life sense) and if I push him... I'll lose him as that. I dont know if I can take life alone? I suffer from depression myself, and it seems like... when he and i started getting close again, the depression nearly disappeared... and now this :( ugh. i hate thinking about it. I guess I can forsee what's going to happen... and if i stop "taking care" of him... i lose him. I know one shouldn't need to BUY one's love and friendship... but i think i have, and i'm accustomed to him being there. It's like a lose-lose-lose-lose situation for me. There's no way for me to end up... happy.
 
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Raeshelle

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Jenn, Darling I love you girl and it is time you think about yourself. You are a beautiful young woman and you are too young to have to act as your brother's care taker.. YOu need to try tough love. Tell him he has one month to get himself straightened out and find a job, and start helping you out.. If he can't do that tell him you love him dearly but you can not allow him to abuse your kindness anymore and that he will have to leave. You can't be him Mom Jenn, and I know you love him . But sometimes ya just gotta take a stand and make a love one see that they have to grow up and take resposibility for themself.. I know this is hard. I had to go through this with my son.
But he came around.
 
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Angelwilliams06302007

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Hi my name is Angel and my brother sound just like yours only it was with me and my mom. My brother was 21 years old living off me and my mother income and everytime my mother brought up getting a job he got mad and disrespected her. I know one of the commandments are to obey thy parents and he was far from doing that. Anyways my mother put him out five times and let him come back after weeks and months. But there was this one time she told him that she love him and wanted the best for him but out of the disrespect and laziness he had to leave. He slept from house to house and eventually went back to job court now he has the highest level in Carpentry and living miles away he has problems from time to time but the tough love my mother gave him made him more responsible, respective, and willing to make it on his own. She even offered him to come home and he told her he didn't want to live off anyone and that he was going to make. He has been away from home from for four years now and taking care of himself and his fiancee.
 
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Baruch

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okay... in regards to the drugs... He was caught this winter some time. the cops called me and i was the one who ended up bailing him out--if i didn't come get him they were going to take him to jail but they let him off with a warning. also, he is unaware of the drug that counter acts the pot smoking--as he failed a urine test the drill after he was caught by the police. thirdly, i informed him when it happened that if he EVER EVER EVER EVER did drugs in my presence or i suspected him of doing so that he was not going to be a part of my life (long story with my dad... but i'm just not going to get into that). so i dont think he is doing them at the moment... also, he has a really good friend who has been a really positive influence on him (and i've kinda secretly made it so that that is the only friend i'll have "nothing better to do" and will bring him to see ;)) lol so i dont think he is using... and if i ever think he is he will be out. He did make it clear that if pot was ever legalized he would do it... and i made it clear that legal or not... i would disown him.

i didn't mean to make my brother out to be a bad guy--he's really not! he is very loving and funny and my best friend (not just anyone can be my best friend ;) haha)... but he is also not a christian and has no desire to listen to anyone who wants to explain God's love. He's like going through this downward spiral and taking me down with him. I just want the spiral to stop!

I guess I'm so torn on what to do because... he is my BEST friend and my ONLY friend (in the real life sense) and if I push him... I'll lose him as that. I dont know if I can take life alone? I suffer from depression myself, and it seems like... when he and i started getting close again, the depression nearly disappeared... and now this :( ugh. i hate thinking about it. I guess I can forsee what's going to happen... and if i stop "taking care" of him... i lose him. I know one shouldn't need to BUY one's love and friendship... but i think i have, and i'm accustomed to him being there. It's like a lose-lose-lose-lose situation for me. There's no way for me to end up... happy.

Being as he is an unbeliever, then the only way for you to be happy is to see how you are being like God the Father in Heaven towards your brother.

Matthew 5:43Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. 44But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; 45That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. 46For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? 47And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so? 48Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

So to be happy, then see him as an opportunity to show love like the Father in Heaven has and is doing towards you, but do know that the Father will chasten every child He receives so if he does drugs, discipline him; otherwise, I am afraid that you are not being a friend to him, and you will lose him anyway to the drugs.

If he ever becomes a believer though...

2 Thessalonians 3: 8Neither did we eat any man's bread for nought; but wrought with labour and travail night and day, that we might not be chargeable to any of you:

1 Timothy 5: 8But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.

The only thing stopping your brother from getting a job is him.

Although depressions will sometimes make a person give up and stuff, keep an eye out for the job you know he would like to do. Sometimes a missed opportunity can happen when your brother wasn't looking.

Maybe... just maybe... apply faith that God will direct his footsteps to get the job He would proivde even though he is not a believer. Jesus healed the sick relative of a believer by request. I do not see why He would not answer a job request for your brother, but the prayer has to be asked in faith that He will do it.

Proverbs 16: 8Better is a little with righteousness than great revenues without right. 9A man's heart deviseth his way: but the LORD directeth his steps.

He will have to learn as I am sure you have too.. that this is living by faith by not worrying about tomorrow.

1 Timothy 6:6But godliness with contentment is great gain. 7For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out.8And having food and raiment let us be therewith content.

May the Lord eneble you to be happy.


 
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LynnJ

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What do i do? let him fall into the same pattern my dad was in his whole life? Stealing... Prision... Drinking... Prison... Drugs... Prison... Drinking... Prison... Drugs... Prison.............do i take him to get checked out? (this would still mean i would be paying)... ugh. i just want out! it's not my job to take care of him and i feel like emotionally i cant take it anymore... i'm gonna crack! lol i'm so not mature enough to deal with this junk. haha
I'm sorry you are going through such a difficult situation, Jenni. There are no quick and easy answers. Remember, though, your brother is an adult and I don't believe that it is your responsibility to keep him from falling into the same pattern as your dad--that's a choice your brother must make on his own. Something to think about: by allowing him to take advantage of your kindness and generosity, are you truly helping him, or simply enabling him to continue living irresponsibly.

I will keep you both in my prayers.
 
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Jenn, i have a brother that has been the same way at life and seems that no matter what i did to help him out he would always end up needing more help. He called me and ask for help with his rent and that they were about to reposess his car and his electricity was turned off and i helped him in all those areas and managed to get him back in line just to see everything later go back the same way. I was praying and asked God what could i do to really make a difference and God told me turn him completely over to me. Make intercession for him and i will glorify myself in him as i have done and continue to do in everything that is in my posession. I pray that you be led by the spirit so strongly that you will know exactly what to do and when to do it. I contend that by trying to tell a person how to or what to do other than pray and hear the voice of the Holy Spirit of God is really not fruitful. I believe that you have a resource of people here behind you that will interceed with you as well and that we will all be able to stand back as Moses did and behold God's Glory even now more than ever. (paraphrased) Even greater things shall you do in my name.

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mcap

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I have been in the same situation,and It will be very hard for you.He has to be told either put away his childish past and man-up or move on.If it is a medical issue tell him you will stand by him as long as he seeks help.You have to put the ball in his park,let him know his actions are not acceptable and there will be repercussions.
 
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luv4God

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GOD DIDN'T MAKE US TO BE FOOT STOOLS OR DOOR MATS, WE ARE TO BE WISE AND ALSO GENTLE. WITH HIM HAVING SOME SORT OF MILITARY LIFE HE SHOULD ALREADY BE SELF SUFICIANT. MAYBE HE NEEDS TO LOOK INTO A MORE PERMANENT PART OF THE MILITARY, HE WOULD'NT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT RENT OR ANYTHING AND IT WILL GIVE YOU PEACE. I SAY SHAME ON YOUR MOM, YOU DIDN'T GIVE BIRTH TO HIM AND MOTHERHOOD NEVER STOPS. I ALSO SAY SHAME ON THE MILITARY FOR NOT TEACHING HIM BETTER. DON'T GET ME WRONG IM NOT BASHING THE MILITARY, IM A MILITARY BRAT MYSELF. MEN DON'T USUALLY COME OUT BEING UNPRODUCTIVE. TELL HIM TO PULL HIS PANTS UP AND BEHAVE. KEEP A JOB OR GET HIM IN A HOMELESS SHELTER SO HE CAN GET ON HIS OWN. YOUR NOT GIVING UP YOUR GIVING HIM A HAND UP. AND YES SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO HIT BOTTOM BEFORE WE CAN STAND UP TO GET OUT. PEACE BE WITH YOU.
 

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Jenn, Darling I love you girl and it is time you think about yourself. You are a beautiful young woman and you are too young to have to act as your brother's care taker.. YOu need to try tough love. Tell him he has one month to get himself straightened out and find a job, and start helping you out.. If he can't do that tell him you love him dearly but you can not allow him to abuse your kindness anymore and that he will have to leave. You can't be him Mom Jenn, and I know you love him . But sometimes ya just gotta take a stand and make a love one see that they have to grow up and take resposibility for themself.. I know this is hard. I had to go through this with my son.
But he came around.

I agree with all of this. Thinking about this from how my dad would do it...he'd probably give me an ultimatum to clean up my act or ship me out, and oh man would he act on that. Basically at this point your brother needs something serious to wake him up, and reality will do that to you. When he gets hungry enough, cold enough, and desperate enough, I'm betting he'll clean his act up quick. You've done so much for him and more, but you have to give him some tough love. A real friend does and says things to friends that might endanger a friendship because they love them enough to say them.
This is one of those times jen. I'll be praying for you and Him Jen.