Gay wedding

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Our nephew, who is one of the most respectful and responsible people I know, is marrying his boyfriend.

Do we go out of respect for him, or stay away because of the gay issue?
Ricky, pray about it. If it was my nephew I would go. If it was my nephew he would already know where I stand on his decisions and I’m sure I would have tried to love his ways out of him but if that’s something he wants to do I would go. Going does not mean I agree with him, it means that I love him regardless. Pray about it though because even though I am saying I would go I would definitely pray first.
 

Ahwatukee

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Ricky, pray about it. If it was my nephew I would go. If it was my nephew he would already know where I stand on his decisions and I’m sure I would have tried to love his ways out of him but if that’s something he wants to do I would go. Going does not mean I agree with him, it means that I love him regardless. Pray about it though because even though I am saying I would go I would definitely pray first.
Yes, his going would indeed mean that he agrees with him. That's what the issue it about. When people go to weddings, it's to congratulate and celebrate the bride and groom in their marriage. We need to take our stand in a world that has been in the process of normalizing same-sex marriage. By going, he would be condoning and supporting what God does not join together, nor support.

At the same time, we have to remember that the invitation of salvation is to everyone, however, God requires repentance, not justification of sin.
 
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I get your point, but he won't see it that way.

Would you go to the wedding of a Buddhist? Muslim? Catholic?
Short answer: being an unbeliever doesn't make the marriage itself a sin.

A same-sex marriage by nature is against God's design, just by the very act of two people of the same sex trying to become one. An opposite-sex marriage (a.k.a. a marriage) is what God intended.

That said, I also don't support idolatry, so the chances of me knowingly and willingly going to any event (wedding or otherwise) where false gods are worshipped are slim to none. And I only say "slim" to leave room for evangelism, in which case, it would be clear that I don't support that idolatry.

Carry this further ... holidays, family birthdays and such - do you leave if they attend?
Is their mere presence a sin? I don't think so. Now that would definitely be shunning.
 
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God loves him and respects him, so should you. Anyone that does not cannot call themselves a Christian...
I think I might have misunderstood you somewhere.

Loves him, yes. But who is he--who is anyone for that matter--that God (Almighty God, with no one above Him, Who owes no one respect) would respect him? I'm having a hard time wrapping my mind around that concept.

It doesn't make it any easier that God calls his actions an abomination.

What is this "respect" that we're supposed to be giving if we want to call ourselves Christians, and what does it entail?
 

RickyZ

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What if I avoid the ceremony but attend the reception?
 
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I would definitely go. It’s your nephew. He’s family. Related by blood. If I was to boycott everyone I don’t agree with...well...

My best friend turned out to be a lesbian when we were teenagers, should I forsake her? No way!
 

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What if I avoid the ceremony but attend the reception?
Well Ricky, would that not be the same thing as acknowledging the marriage. That is the problem with attending anything associated with this false union. He should not be offended by your non-participation knowing your stance on same-sex marriages. We should be consistent in our standards regarding our faith. :(:cautious:
 

Ahwatukee

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I would definitely go. It’s your nephew. He’s family. Related by blood. If I was to boycott everyone I don’t agree with...well...

My best friend turned out to be a lesbian when we were teenagers, should I forsake her? No way!
Hi Susanna!

So, if you were to go to your best friend's wedding, would you hug her and congratulate her and her wife, knowing that according to God's word that anyone who is living that life style will not inherit the kingdom of God? How could you be happy for her knowing where that life style leads?

"Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things (men with men and woman with women) are worthy of death, they not only continue to do these things, but also approve of those who practice them."

As the scripture above states, would you not be one who is approving of your friend who is practicing this?

If I was in this situation, I would take the opportunity to make known the severity of her sin, that as long as she willfully remains in that state, it keeps her separated from God and on her way to condemning judgment. That's guaranteed! And you would be helping her to get there by supporting her.

If I was RickyZ, I would see about setting up a time to speak with his cousin before his wedding and lay it all out. I would make it known that he has the right to continue living a same-sex life style, however the consequences are the same.

This eternity we're talking about! To not tell them and to support those living that life style, is to not love them, but to help them on their way.
 
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Hi Susanna!

So, if you were to go to your best friend's wedding, would you hug her and congratulate her and her wife, knowing that according to God's word that anyone who is living that life style will not inherit the kingdom of God? How could you be happy for her knowing where that life style leads?

"Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things (men with men and woman with women) are worthy of death, they not only continue to do these things, but also approve of those who practice them."

As the scripture above states, would you not be one who is approving of your friend who is practicing this?

If I was in this situation, I would take the opportunity to make known the severity of her sin, that as long as she willfully remains in that state, it keeps her separated from God and on her way to condemning judgment. That's guaranteed! And you would be helping her to get there by supporting her.

If I was RickyZ, I would see about setting up a time to speak with his cousin before his wedding and lay it all out. I would make it known that he has the right to continue living a same-sex life style, however the consequences are the same.

This eternity we're talking about! To not tell them and to support those living that life style, is to not love them, but to help them on their way.
I would hug her. It’s not for me to judge. If I, a poor sinner, take it upon myself to judge, there’s no way anyone will change. Only the Lord can pass judgment.
 

Ahwatukee

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I would hug her. It’s not for me to judge. If I, a poor sinner, take it upon myself to judge, there’s no way anyone will change. Only the Lord can pass judgment.
"Not to judge" is one of the misused scripture in the word of God. People, including Christians, have made "not judging" to mean that you can't tell anyone the truth of God's word. As believers we are supposed to make righteous judgments. It is your responsibility as a Christian to speak the truth. What we are not to do is make "condemning judgments." However, we are to make judgments about what is right and wrong.

It doesn't sound like you understand the gravity of this situation. So, you would rather hug and congratulate her, instead of telling her that her sin of same-sex leads to separation from God in the lake of fire.

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"Not to judge" is one of the misused scripture in the word of God. People, including Christians, have made "not judging" to mean that you can't tell anyone the truth of God's word. As believers we are supposed to make righteous judgments. It is your responsibility as a Christian to speak the truth. What we are not to do is make "condemning judgments." However, we are to make judgments about what is right and wrong.

It doesn't sound like you understand the gravity of this situation. So, you would rather hug and congratulate her, instead of telling her that her sin of same-sex leads to separation from God in the lake of fire.

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I’m not intending to judge my childhood friend no matter what a random guy on the internet is saying. End of story!
 
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I’m not intending to judge my childhood friend no matter what a random guy on the internet is saying. End of story!
Is God a random guy on the internet? Because it's God who says to righteously judge and it's God who says we shouldn't encourage people to continue in their sin.
 

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Carry this further ... holidays, family birthdays and such - do you leave if they attend?
Thats something different. I would let em come. That isnt anything that has to do with their lifestyle. Id just tell em to behave
 
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I’m not intending to judge my childhood friend no matter what a random guy on the internet is saying. End of story!
God's Word tells us...to judge no man least we be judged... this means in short to compare myself to him as being better, or anything like that, because my righteousness like his is as filthy rags before God!

But it also tells us to judge ALL THINGS to see if they are of God!

Big difference here; doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out the union is not of God! The question is does God want him to go for some greater good 🙏?? Unbeknownst to him or us! 🔥😇
 

Ahwatukee

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Our nephew, who is one of the most respectful and responsible people I know, is marrying his boyfriend.

Do we go out of respect for him, or stay away because of the gay issue?
Good day Rickyz!

I know that I have spoken on this subject enough, but I will leave these last two scriptures:

"Have no fellowship with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them." (Eph.5:11)

"Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership can righteousness have with wickedness? Or what fellowship does light have with darkness? (2 Cor.6:14)
 
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Yes, his going would indeed mean that he agrees with him. That's what the issue it about. When people go to weddings, it's to congratulate and celebrate the bride and groom in their marriage. We need to take our stand in a world that has been in the process of normalizing same-sex marriage. By going, he would be condoning and supporting what God does not join together, nor support.

At the same time, we have to remember that the invitation of salvation is to everyone, however, God requires repentance, not justification of sin.
Ahwatukee, If I pray with Muslims does that mean I agree with them? Absolutely not. I’m here in a Muslim country and pray hoping that they will see a light in me and ask about who I serve. I go into CVS when I’m stateside and Lord knows I don’t agree with those prices but I go. I have to disagree with you when you say that means she agrees with his lifestyle. We can all look at the outward appearance but I’m so glad that’s God looks at the heart.

Again OP definitely pray.
 

Ahwatukee

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God's Word tells us...to judge no man least we be judged... this means in short to compare myself to him as being better, or anything like that, because my righteousness like his is as filthy rags before God!

But it also tells us to judge ALL THINGS to see if they are of God!

Big difference here; doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out the union is not of God! The question is does God want him to go for some greater good 🙏?? Unbeknownst to him or us! 🔥😇
I agree! A good example that we are supposed to make right judgments based on God's word, I would remind everyone that, John the Baptist told King Herod that it was unlawful for him to be married to his brother's wife Herodias. Therefore, John made a righteous judgement regarding God's word, which is what got him thrown into prison and eventually got his head cut off.

Therefore, was John wrong for his judgment? Not at all! For he was proclaiming the truth of God's word. Since telling people about sin and its consequences involves making judgments, then we would never be able to share the word of God with anyone for fear of judging.
 
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I agree! A good example that we are supposed to make right judgments based on God's word, I would remind everyone that, John the Baptist told King Herod that it was unlawful for him to be married to his brother's wife Herodias. Therefore, John made a righteous judgement regarding God's word, which is what got him thrown into prison and eventually got his head cut off.

Therefore, was John wrong for his judgment? Not at all! For he was proclaiming the truth of God's word. Since telling people about sin and its consequences involves making judgments, then we would never be able to share the word of God with anyone for fear of judging.
What if your best childhood friend told you he was gay? You’d quit being his friend? Or you’d just judge him a little now and then to make sure he would not forget what kind of a sinner he was compared to his righteous friend?