Homosexual Brother In Law

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It has been a couple months since I updated this situation on here. The Brother In Law has been made aware that I will not be attending and has been made aware of the truth for my absence. They are disappointed but respecting my decision. The wife continues to say she’s going. Which brings me to my next issue. My son, is very attached to his mother. His grandma, the one putting on this reception is a very influential person to my sons life as well. If I insist he stay with me am I at risk of damaging my relationship with him or causing some kind of lasting resentment between my son and I ? I’m beginning to feel like this is going to be a wrestling match between my wishes as a father and their wishes. It’s going to be tough coming up against them because they know the way a child’s mind works . They know exactly what to say and how to say things to either make my son joyful or sad. Essentially, I’m fearful they may try to manipulate my sons emotions and leverage that against my decision. What can I do as a father to ensure my relationship with my son is not permanently damaged by this conflict? Please continue to pray for us.
Hi Brother ,

speak to your son and ask him how he feels and give your Biblical reason why you are going to attend. Tell your wife " you know why I am not going and more importantly what God says about it. I leave you to your disease to not do what I have asked and what God has said to do between you and God. I love you and praying for you. however, God is going to bless one of our decisions NOT both.

IF I am wrong I will answer to God. If I am not, you will.
 

rayzor

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Sodom & Gomorah It was 4 not having concern 4 the poor.As stated in Ezekiel

It's not suppose to be a choice sin.It's a sin that happens more in rich nations. According 2 the bible it's when the body is turn over 2 the devil.It's odd ?that any 1 could just live that way.
 

rayzor

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If the sin did not harm somehow then it would not be a sin.
 

Ahwatukee

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Thankyou for the response. He’s 5. This is happening October 9th. I’m not sure even how to begin to explain those scriptures to a 5 year old in a manner in which he could understand it or even relate without frustrating or confusing him. He has a very simple understanding of the Bible and God at the moment. Mostly around the love of Jesus and basic stories at child level like Jonah and the whale, David and Goliath, Daniel and the Lions den, We read him children’s level Bible stories nightly … the book conveniently leaves out these kind of stories but tells the story of the battle of Jericho and tells the story of David and Goliath which figures . he struggles to recall what was read in these stories which is a battle in itself on another post of mine. I think we have planted the seed as best we can but it’s seed in very weedy soil if I was to relate it to the parable Jesus told. I’d be a little worried about flooding the seed by talking to him about Sodom and Gomorrah. I’ve been relentless in prayer about it with no answer. Is there perhaps a preferred way I could pray on this issue that might help. I will snap a photo of the table of contents in his Bible story book to maybe give some idea of what he is being read.
Hello again!

Yeah, that's why I asked how old he was. Five is a little young for him to understand this situation. Unfortunately because of his age, I would just pray for God's protection, his shielding. I suppose his age regarding this can work both ways, i.e. him not understanding what is taking place. As he gets a little older you could continue to talk to him about it, reminding him of that event.

We'll continue to pray you, your son and those who are excepting of this, including those who the event is for. They certainly have the freedom to live that way if they chose to, but the consequences remain the same, which is separation from God and condemnation. However, one would have to fear God and believe His word in order for that to mean anything to them.
 

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The Lord bless you for taking up your cross for Christ and His word. I am truly sorry that your wife is not taking her stand in Christ, but is choosing her family over Him. In these last days, it seems that many Christians are taking more of a worldly view regarding the issue of the same-sex life style. "Love is love" they claim. It is amazing how people forget about destruction that God brought about on Sodom and Gomorrah, which stands as an example of those who will suffer everlasting fire for doing the same, as though time would change God's mind about this.

What age is your son? If you have not already done so, I would have a private talk with him, so that he knows exactly what the issue is and the reason why you are not attending. Maybe you could read the account of Sodom and Gomorrah together and explain to him what those people were doing and why God destroyed them. Then tie it in with Jude 1:7

"In like manner, Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them, who indulged in sexual immorality and pursued strange flesh, are on display as an example of those who sustain the punishment of eternal fire."

"Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

In the beginning, God created them male and female. "For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and they will become one flesh."

When will this event take place?

I and I'm sure that many here, will keep you and your family in pray regarding this issue.
I challenged a homosexual when he trotted out the love is love mantra and asked him what he meant by love. No reply. It seems that parrots are not very good when it comes to saying something they have not practiced.
 
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I challenged a homosexual when he trotted out the love is love mantra and asked him what he meant by love. No reply. It seems that parrots are not very good when it comes to saying something they have not practiced.

NO RESPONSE IS A RESPONSE AND A VERY POWERFUL ONE!
I think you missed the point he was trying to make with you.
 
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Hello there. I have myself quite a situation. My wife’s brother is a Homosexual and recently got “married” to his partner in California. The ceremony was private due to covid but now that the restrictions are gone they want to have a larger reception in October and want us there. I’m torn on this cause they are nice people but there is something telling me not to go. I have this feeling that I would be engaging in celebration of someone’s sin which I’m very against. It also concerns me about the example I’m setting for my 5 year old boy. He would be watching daddy compromise his beliefs and watching daddy essentially celebrate sin. Am I thinking on this the wrong way as a Christian man, husband and father? If I stand against this lead my family as God intended and refuse to attend it will absolutely make family members very angry and disappointed in me. It’s probably going to add stress to an already weak marriage of mine cause my wife believes she needs to be there for her brother. This isn’t the first issue we have had regarding the Homosexual brother in law. My wife’s family is also pushing us to allow the Homosexual couple to be my sons legal guardian/ godparents if we were to pass on. My wife thinks it’s a great idea but I’m not ok with this because I believe that as a father I have the duty to give my son the best chance at living in a Christian household with a strong masculine husband and wife marriage. I have a brother who is married but my wife doesn’t get along with them. She has a sister with a husband but she has that one out of the question as well. I’m trying to get out ahead of this before it becomes all a big train wreck but I keep stumbling. Please help. How do I lead my family through this mess? If nothing else please pray for us.
Go with your heart, you already know you should not go. I guess it is God guiding you, and the doubts telling you to go to the event, that is the callings of the children of the lie. I am in a similar situation, humanist confirmation around 23d september, I will not go.A ceremony that copies a christian ceremony, and change it to something else, that is mockery of christianity. It is not different from a girlfriend of yours asking you to drive her to an abortionclinic. You are not getting an abortion yourself, but in driving her you parttake in the abortionm, and you have sinned.
 

Angela53510

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You really have your hands full Tst. The situation is pretty complicated isn't it?

Firstly if your wife has high blood pressure and she is taking medication, you have a whole
background situation. I personally would not accept my wife taking medication as I would view our bodies as one body.
[I don't want to absorb that stuff through contact, kissing, etc ] Personally just taking the most innocuous medication, e.g. a muscle relaxant for a bad back, turns my brain to mush. So she is stressed and easily-triggered, and she may have cognitive issues as well now.

Ultimately there are two marriages being discussed here. I think I know which one I would be interested in, if i was in your shoes. I think you need to find a good pastor, and work through all this stuff. I don't think it is going away. Your wife is making her own rules, in a way behind your back, (church, mother, etc) and you simply need to take action. Otherwise you will just forever be a third party.
I'm glad you are banned. This is for people who read your post!

How arrogant and unloving to not allow your wife to take blood pressure meds. You would be killing her, you know? High blood pressure isn't called "the silent killer" for no reason.

My husband is mostly very healthy. I've been sick for 30 years with autoimmune diseases. When I am doing badly, as I have been for 5 weeks since my rheumatologist pulled me off an important med. he has cooked, cleaned, shopped and shown such compassion. He hates to see me in pain with more deformities. My drugs are expensive, but he has seen me go from 100% bed ridden during a med failure, lifting me to my wheelchair, pushing me to the toilet, putting me in the toilet, then reverse, to bring an active, busy person on my drugs. Being bed ridden is humiliating for me, and strains his back. He's glad on every level when my meds are working.

I have never heard anything more unspiritual and less caring than saying your wife can't take meds when she is sick. My husband has no spleen, and has almost diesvin the ICU for certain infections every 5-8 years. I get him to the hospital, get him treatment. He would have died had I not approved his meds, as next of kin. Maybe if you have a heart attack, your wife should apply the same rules to you. No ambulances to the ER for special interventions that could save your heart. Her heart is fine, so you can get better on the fumes from her heart working well- or something!

I'm just outraged, that anyone could be such a horrible misogynist, to the point of killing his slave/wife by not allowing her necessary medical treatment! I sure hope you are not married, and never marry and inflict your unbiblical nonsense on a women!

PS I realize it was not actually his wife that had forbidden blood pressure meds! Just using the same metaphor.
 

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I'm glad you are banned. This is for people who read your post!

How arrogant and unloving to not allow your wife to take blood pressure meds. You would be killing her, you know? High blood pressure isn't called "the silent killer" for no reason.

My husband is mostly very healthy. I've been sick for 30 years with autoimmune diseases. When I am doing badly, as I have been for 5 weeks since my rheumatologist pulled me off an important med. he has cooked, cleaned, shopped and shown such compassion. He hates to see me in pain with more deformities. My drugs are expensive, but he has seen me go from 100% bed ridden during a med failure, lifting me to my wheelchair, pushing me to the toilet, putting me in the toilet, then reverse, to bring an active, busy person on my drugs. Being bed ridden is humiliating for me, and strains his back. He's glad on every level when my meds are working.

I have never heard anything more unspiritual and less caring than saying your wife can't take meds when she is sick. My husband has no spleen, and has almost diesvin the ICU for certain infections every 5-8 years. I get him to the hospital, get him treatment. He would have died had I not approved his meds, as next of kin. Maybe if you have a heart attack, your wife should apply the same rules to you. No ambulances to the ER for special interventions that could save your heart. Her heart is fine, so you can get better on the fumes from her heart working well- or something!

I'm just outraged, that anyone could be such a horrible misogynist, to the point of killing his slave/wife by not allowing her necessary medical treatment! I sure hope you are not married, and never marry and inflict your unbiblical nonsense on a women!

PS I realize it was not actually his wife that had forbidden blood pressure meds! Just using the same metaphor.

This is going to get a little off topic so forgive me but I thought I should provide some context. I personally didn’t agree with what “old Sage” said on that particular comment but I chose to disregard it. To be fair Old Sage didn’t know the full story either.
My wife’s BP situation is that during pregnancy with our son she was diagnosed with high BP. The doctor gave prescription on it essentially for during the pregnancy to make sure she remained at a safe level. We’re going on 5 years now after the birth and she’s still on it. She switched doctors but chose to keep the old prescription. She in passing conversation told me that her doctors visit went well. The doctors told her she could get off the medication if she wanted. She has chosen to continue. She is scared as soon as she gets off these meds it’s going to kill her. Absolutely convinced of it. I urged her to take the doctors suggestion and get off them for a while just to see where your BP is naturally at and if needed we can restart the medication again… didn’t go over to well. She got way emotional claimed immediately that I was being unloving and evidently wanted her to die. Cause evidently that’s what she had convinced herself is going to happen the day she stops taking them…. It was not one of our shining examples of how we should talk to each other at all. That is the context of that situation which I was using as an example of the emotional roller coaster my wife sends us on with any and I mean any serious adult conversation and it happened again when I confronted her about not going to this.
 

Angela53510

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This is going to get a little off topic so forgive me but I thought I should provide some context. I personally didn’t agree with what “old Sage” said on that particular comment but I chose to disregard it. To be fair Old Sage didn’t know the full story either.
My wife’s BP situation is that during pregnancy with our son she was diagnosed with high BP. The doctor gave prescription on it essentially for during the pregnancy to make sure she remained at a safe level. We’re going on 5 years now after the birth and she’s still on it. She switched doctors but chose to keep the old prescription. She in passing conversation told me that her doctors visit went well. The doctors told her she could get off the medication if she wanted. She has chosen to continue. She is scared as soon as she gets off these meds it’s going to kill her. Absolutely convinced of it. I urged her to take the doctors suggestion and get off them for a while just to see where your BP is naturally at and if needed we can restart the medication again… didn’t go over to well. She got way emotional claimed immediately that I was being unloving and evidently wanted her to die. Cause evidently that’s what she had convinced herself is going to happen the day she stops taking them…. It was not one of our shining examples of how we should talk to each other at all. That is the context of that situation which I was using as an example of the emotional roller coaster my wife sends us on with any and I mean any serious adult conversation and it happened again when I confronted her about not going to this.
Thanks for the background information. But it is still her choice to make, with her doctor. If the doctor thinks she should go off, that is a different story than what our banned friend said, which was about him not wanting to kiss or touch her for fear he would get the med inside himself. Totally controlling and selfish.

However, your point that she is not going to die, is important to know. Have you ever had heart disease or high blood pressure? I have, and it was one of the most anxiety producing situations I have ever been in. I was also terrified I would drop dead at any moment from another heart & vascular issue. I could have died hundreds of times from pneumonia. RA threatens my health, and a close friend died in Feb of Rhuematoid Lung Disease, which I also have.

But heart is so much scarier. I was put on meds immediately, after my heart incident, and the symptoms mostly subsided. But for over a solid month, I lived in terror, with horrible anxiety. I really had to take it to God. In the end, I was comforted by the knowledge that God is sovereign & in control. God knows when it is time for me to die, so trusting him is vital. In addition, the heart meds helped me tremendously, so I relaxed and went back to enjoying my life, including doing heart rehab.

Your wife sounds like she needs counselling or behaviour management. If she goes off the BP meds, and her BP goes up, she can just return to taking them. It is also important for her to realize if she goes off her meds, it is unlikely she will drop dead today. That is magical thinking. The pills are not magically keeping her alive.

The Bible tells us to be anxious for nothing. (Phil 4:6-7) Those are very wise words. We do need to take precautions, of course. If we have a life threatening condition, we should follow our doctor's orders, exercise, stay out of the sun, or observe COVID protocols, for example, and take the prescribed medications. Heart specialists are good to negotiate with. When the first statin really bothered me, my cardiologist let me try 3 others. Then she declared I was statin intolerant, and I haven't been in them since 2019.

Your wife sounds very immature as a Christian. Does she read her Bible, pray & go to a Bible believing church? If not, you have found the source of your marital issues. If you don't either, time for you to be the man, and an example. Plus, regardless of the marriage, you will personally grow into a mature Christian. You just can't will yourself into maturity. Instead, God has given us some easy disciplines to follow. By being consistent, the Holy Spirit has really transformed me. I'm not perfect, of course! But so radically changed from when God first saved me!!

That's what you need to work on. As for your wife, she has low self esteem, thinking you, who love her, wants to kill her. Plus some paranoia. She may have intrusive thoughts, and might need need some psych meds till she can get in control of these inner demons.

"Heavenly Father, I pray for our brother and his marriage issues. Open up some doors that would help them listen & communicate more. Encourage them to pray, read the whole Bible through, yearly, study the Word of God. Transform them by the renewing of their minds (Rms 12:2) please touch his wife, & give her a special touch to wipe away her fears, anxieties & worries. Give her the peace that passes understanding! In Jesus name I pray, Amen!"

Try memorizing this passage, and make it part of who you are. Maybe one day, your wife will
See there is a way out of the darkness!

"Be anxious for nothing, but in everything by prayer and supplication, with thanksgiving, let your requests be made known to God; 7 and the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus." Phil 4:6-7
 

Icedaisey

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Hello there. I have myself quite a situation. My wife’s brother is a Homosexual and recently got “married” to his partner in California. The ceremony was private due to covid but now that the restrictions are gone they want to have a larger reception in October and want us there. I’m torn on this cause they are nice people but there is something telling me not to go. I have this feeling that I would be engaging in celebration of someone’s sin which I’m very against. It also concerns me about the example I’m setting for my 5 year old boy. He would be watching daddy compromise his beliefs and watching daddy essentially celebrate sin. Am I thinking on this the wrong way as a Christian man, husband and father? If I stand against this lead my family as God intended and refuse to attend it will absolutely make family members very angry and disappointed in me. It’s probably going to add stress to an already weak marriage of mine cause my wife believes she needs to be there for her brother. This isn’t the first issue we have had regarding the Homosexual brother in law. My wife’s family is also pushing us to allow the Homosexual couple to be my sons legal guardian/ godparents if we were to pass on. My wife thinks it’s a great idea but I’m not ok with this because I believe that as a father I have the duty to give my son the best chance at living in a Christian household with a strong masculine husband and wife marriage. I have a brother who is married but my wife doesn’t get along with them. She has a sister with a husband but she has that one out of the question as well. I’m trying to get out ahead of this before it becomes all a big train wreck but I keep stumbling. Please help. How do I lead my family through this mess? If nothing else please pray for us.
Jesus dined with sinners. And chastised those who condemned him for it when they said his example was contrary to the scriptures.
 
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nah just go
love is love and jesus was most likely a homosexual too❤ embrace it
you are feeling this way probably because deep deep down you too are a homosexual
do not be afraid
jesus loves everyone even u xx
 

Icedaisey

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nah just go
love is love and jesus was most likely a homosexual too❤ embrace it
you are feeling this way probably because deep deep down you too are a homosexual
do not be afraid
jesus loves everyone even u xx
No, you're not at all obvious. :LOL:
 

tstumf

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Thanks for the background information. But it is still her choice to make, with her doctor. If the doctor thinks she should go off, that is a different story than what our banned friend said, which was about him not wanting to kiss or touch her for fear he would get the med inside himself. Totally controlling and selfish.

However, your point that she is not going to die, is important to know. Have you ever had heart disease or high blood pressure? I have, and it was one of the most anxiety producing situations I have ever been in. I was also terrified I would drop dead at any moment from another heart & vascular issue. I could have died hundreds of times from pneumonia. RA threatens my health, and a close friend died in Feb of Rhuematoid Lung Disease, which I also have.

But heart is so much scarier. I was put on meds immediately, after my heart incident, and the symptoms mostly subsided. But for over a solid month, I lived in terror, with horrible anxiety. I really had to take it to God. In the end, I was comforted by the knowledge that God is sovereign & in control. God knows when it is time for me to die, so trusting him is vital. In addition, the heart meds helped me tremendously, so I relaxed and went back to enjoying my life, including doing heart rehab.

Your wife sounds like she needs counselling or behaviour management. If she goes off the BP meds, and her BP goes up, she can just return to taking them. It is also important for her to realize if she goes off her meds, it is unlikely she will drop dead today. That is magical thinking. The pills are not magically keeping her alive.

The Bible tells us to be anxious for nothing. (Phil 4:6-7) Those are very wise words. We do need to take precautions, of course. If we have a life threatening condition, we should follow our doctor's orders, exercise, stay out of the sun, or observe COVID protocols, for example, and take the prescribed medications. Heart specialists are good to negotiate with. When the first statin really bothered me, my cardiologist let me try 3 others. Then she declared I was statin intolerant, and I haven't been in them since 2019.

Your wife sounds very immature as a Christian. Does she read her Bible, pray & go to a Bible believing church? If not, you have found the source of your marital issues. If you don't either, time for you to be the man, and an example. Plus, regardless of the marriage, you will personally grow into a mature Christian. You just can't will yourself into maturity. Instead, God has given us some easy disciplines to follow. By being consistent, the Holy Spirit has really transformed me. I'm not perfect, of course! But so radically changed from when God first saved me!!

That's what you need to work on. As for your wife, she has low self esteem, thinking you, who love her, wants to kill her. Plus some paranoia. She may have intrusive thoughts, and might need need some psych meds till she can get in control of these inner demons.

"Heavenly Father, I pray for our brother and his marriage issues. Open up some doors that would help them listen & communicate more. Encourage them to pray, read the whole Bible through, yearly, study the Word of God. Transform them by the renewing of their minds (Rms 12:2) please touch his wife, & give her a special touch to wipe away her fears, anxieties & worries. Give her the peace that passes understanding! In Jesus name I pray, Amen!"

Try memorizing this passage, and make it part of who you are. Maybe one day, your wife will
See there is a way out of the darkness!

"Be anxious for nothing, but in everything by prayer and supplication, with thanksgiving, let your requests be made known to God; 7 and the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus." Phil 4:6-7
Thankyou for your wisdom and insight on that I appreciate it. Obviously there are things that need work in my marriage, I get it. There are a multitude of other marriage issues that have popped up as well and it’s being worked on. I can’t share much more here for concern of safety and privacy as I’ve picked up a couple trolls on my post I see so I apologize for being guarded on some stuff. But I will take your advice to heart. Thankyou so much.
 
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omg i am not a troll and i couldn't care less about you're stupid life🙄🙄🙄 "concern of safety and privacy" like I care who u are
 

Ruby123

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omg i am not a troll and i couldn't care less about you're stupid life🙄🙄🙄 "concern of safety and privacy" like I care who u are
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