If'n ya don't work, ya don't eat!

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Genipher

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This morning when my daughter told me she was "too tired and lazy" to pour herself a bowl of cereal I thought of 2 Thessalonians 3:10:

For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.

I had to chuckle as I realized that the meaning of that verse could be taken several ways:

1. Those that refuse to work don't "deserve" food.

2. Those that refuse to work don't necessarily need the calories food provides, as they aren't exerting energy.

3. And as my daughter showed me, those that are "too lazy" to get up off their rear to get a bowl and spoon? Well, I guess they'll just sit there with a grumbling belly!

What insights have your kids, siblings, parents, or friends inadvertently taught you?
 

tourist

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At least your daughter was honest and admitted that she was 'too tired and lazy', which in itself is an oxymoron. I don't believe that those that are lazy are too tired because they are not really exerting energy that would make them tired but rather are lethargic from lack of productive activity. Your theory about not needing calories is right on target. I would not call what your daughter said as insight but rather a confusing statement of truth.
 

Dino246

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Welcome to CC, Genipher! :)

I worked today. What's for supper?

I agree that this principle should be taught to children... preferably early on. However, if your spouse doesn't share your value, it will be a cause for strife in the home. A lesson isn't nearly as effective if your spouse caves at the first hint of the child's displeasure and turns on you if it reaches the degree of the slightest physical discomfort.
 

Genipher

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At least your daughter was honest and admitted that she was 'too tired and lazy', which in itself is an oxymoron. I don't believe that those that are lazy are too tired because they are not really exerting energy that would make them tired but rather are lethargic from lack of productive activity. Your theory about not needing calories is right on target. I would not call what your daughter said as insight but rather a confusing statement of truth.
Well, she is only five so much of what she says is slightly confusing. ;)
Still, out of the mouth of babes, eh?
 

Genipher

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Welcome to CC, Genipher! :)

I worked today. What's for supper?

I agree that this principle should be taught to children... preferably early on. However, if your spouse doesn't share your value, it will be a cause for strife in the home. A lesson isn't nearly as effective if your spouse caves at the first hint of the child's displeasure and turns on you if it reaches the degree of the slightest physical discomfort.
Thankfully the husband and I are on the same page when it comes to discipline, lessons, etc

And supper...tonight we're having chili. You?
 

Dino246

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Thankfully the husband and I are on the same page when it comes to discipline, lessons, etc

And supper...tonight we're having chili. You?
I had sausage and perogies... with grainy mustard.
 

TM19782017

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My opinion:

No adult can fully understand the path of one of their children..... Yes, there are some good morals that carry through time but, I can only imagine how the parents of some people who followed their heart and pursued a path that is so far from the norm.

It must be the hardest thing in the world for a parent to hear that their kid does not want to follow the preconceived path that you believe they should follow but, I would maybe ask her more in depth on why she chooses to do the things she does?

I don't doubt that even in 2018, some women still believe that their beauty will get them by. Some rich guy will will take care of them forever. :eek:).......No disrespect but did you pain the "daddy's little girl" life? If so, she is only wanting more of what you created.
 

mar09

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This morning when my daughter told me she was "too tired and lazy" to pour herself a bowl of cereal I thought of 2 Thessalonians 3:10:

For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.

I had to chuckle as I realized that the meaning of that verse could be taken several ways:

1. Those that refuse to work don't "deserve" food.

2. Those that refuse to work don't necessarily need the calories food provides, as they aren't exerting energy.

3. And as my daughter showed me, those that are "too lazy" to get up off their rear to get a bowl and spoon? Well, I guess they'll just sit there with a grumbling belly!

What insights have your kids, siblings, parents, or friends inadvertently taught you?
Interesting thread, gen. Welcome to cc as well.

I have teens now, and while we often have different breakfasts here, not cereal in a box, i still see guys keeping away from the kitchen early in the day, at least after something is prepared. I was pondering recently on being lazy and a sluggard, as the Bible calls these people.

We're all energetic-- and lazy-- abt different things, i guess. At their age, the children i think are 'lazy' abt preparing breakfast bec. they grew up with breakfast often ready. While i sometimes took the time and effort to prepare something earlier for lunch or dinner too, it is good to leave some things for them to tackle. Like if i prepare the sauce, they just have to do the pasta...

I realize how we motivate them so matters. Once hubby told abt a co-worker who always gave a 'reward' when their children accomplished something, no matter how small. In time when the parent could no longer give rewards, the kids were not complying anymore. That is sad.. and in our case, i have also seen strengths and weaknesses in how we dealt with our growing children. So hubby wants to give them what he thinks is our responsibility to give while we can, like allowances and fare, tho i think we should also 'balance' or make them understand why we give, and can withhold when we need to.
 

Genipher

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My opinion:

No adult can fully understand the path of one of their children..... Yes, there are some good morals that carry through time but, I can only imagine how the parents of some people who followed their heart and pursued a path that is so far from the norm.

It must be the hardest thing in the world for a parent to hear that their kid does not want to follow the preconceived path that you believe they should follow but, I would maybe ask her more in depth on why she chooses to do the things she does?

I don't doubt that even in 2018, some women still believe that their beauty will get them by. Some rich guy will will take care of them forever. :eek:).......No disrespect but did you pain the "daddy's little girl" life? If so, she is only wanting more of what you created.

What?

I'm sorry, I'm not sure how your comment applies.... My 5 year old basically made a cute comment that gave me a different slant on a particular scripture in the Bible. Not that it was intended to be interpreted in that particular way, but I thought it fitting. After having a little laugh over it, I sent her to get a bowl and spoon and she served herself some cereal (she still needs a bit of help pouring milk, otherwise spillage occurs).

At any rate, no. We're not teaching any of our kids to depend on a "sugar daddy", winning the lottery so they don't have to work, or using their beauty to avoid hard jobs. Not sure where that thought of yours came from...weird.
 

Genipher

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Interesting thread, gen. Welcome to cc as well.

I have teens now, and while we often have different breakfasts here, not cereal in a box, i still see guys keeping away from the kitchen early in the day, at least after something is prepared. I was pondering recently on being lazy and a sluggard, as the Bible calls these people.

We're all energetic-- and lazy-- abt different things, i guess. At their age, the children i think are 'lazy' abt preparing breakfast bec. they grew up with breakfast often ready. While i sometimes took the time and effort to prepare something earlier for lunch or dinner too, it is good to leave some things for them to tackle. Like if i prepare the sauce, they just have to do the pasta...

I realize how we motivate them so matters. Once hubby told abt a co-worker who always gave a 'reward' when their children accomplished something, no matter how small. In time when the parent could no longer give rewards, the kids were not complying anymore. That is sad.. and in our case, i have also seen strengths and weaknesses in how we dealt with our growing children. So hubby wants to give them what he thinks is our responsibility to give while we can, like allowances and fare, tho i think we should also 'balance' or make them understand why we give, and can withhold when we need to.
Yeah, my older kids (14, 12, 9) automatically get into the kitchen and make themselves breakfast. Sometimes the eldest will make pancakes or eggs for everyone. The younger kids, however, are still learning that they have the ability to get what they need. Of course, the 5 year old (the one who made the "lazy and tired" comment) still needs a touch of help pouring milk, but she's at that age where she CAN serve herself, if needed.
I'm sure she'll become more self sufficient in that area as she gets older and has more practice. ;)

On the flip side (dinner!!) it is such a blessing that my older kids can take over some of the food chores! My 14 year old makes many a-meal and my 12 year old son is an excellent spaghetti maker!
 

TM19782017

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What?

I'm sorry, I'm not sure how your comment applies.... My 5 year old basically made a cute comment that gave me a different slant on a particular scripture in the Bible. Not that it was intended to be interpreted in that particular way, but I thought it fitting. After having a little laugh over it, I sent her to get a bowl and spoon and she served herself some cereal (she still needs a bit of help pouring milk, otherwise spillage occurs).

At any rate, no. We're not teaching any of our kids to depend on a "sugar daddy", winning the lottery so they don't have to work, or using their beauty to avoid hard jobs. Not sure where that thought of yours came from...weird.
I will elaborate a little..... Good morals, kindness, doing good onto others are all things that a parent should teach, I agree but, if a child of yours has an opinion on a particular subject that brings him joy and to an older generation like us, it may make absolutely zero sense and where a parent should intervene is debatable....Look at how many successful actors, musicians, comedians, and even artistic painters.....Even a child that may want to be nothing more than an average 9-5 average wage person.... It may seem like he is setting himself up for a life of financial struggle do to the odds but, if his inner passion adheres to the good morals that were taught, who is anyone to tell him/her to not follow their passion and personal bliss?

Make better sense?
 

TM19782017

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This morning when my daughter told me she was "too tired and lazy" to pour herself a bowl of cereal I thought of 2 Thessalonians 3:10:

For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.

I had to chuckle as I realized that the meaning of that verse could be taken several ways:

1. Those that refuse to work don't "deserve" food.

2. Those that refuse to work don't necessarily need the calories food provides, as they aren't exerting energy.

3. And as my daughter showed me, those that are "too lazy" to get up off their rear to get a bowl and spoon? Well, I guess they'll just sit there with a grumbling belly!

What insights have your kids, siblings, parents, or friends inadvertently taught you?
My mistake, I didn't know she was 5. My apologies
 

Ignorun

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This morning when my daughter told me she was "too tired and lazy" to pour herself a bowl of cereal I thought of 2 Thessalonians 3:10:

For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.

I had to chuckle as I realized that the meaning of that verse could be taken several ways:

1. Those that refuse to work don't "deserve" food.

2. Those that refuse to work don't necessarily need the calories food provides, as they aren't exerting energy.

3. And as my daughter showed me, those that are "too lazy" to get up off their rear to get a bowl and spoon? Well, I guess they'll just sit there with a grumbling belly!

What insights have your kids, siblings, parents, or friends inadvertently taught you?
Buy her an ant farm.
Proverbs 6.6-8.
 

Demi777

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The verse is about people who are idle and unwling to work.
I remember the story of a friend of mine.
he married a woman which got pregnant and her abusive family started to vandalize them. they had all the papers to get any support and the only thing they could do was leave the state. so he gave up his job and did his best to keep his wife and baby going. But as tme went on and he tried, for a longer time he couldnt get a job. when he asked someone in church for help she rejected him cold and took to facebook that she aint gonna feed a grown up man. No work, no food.
im not a fan of this saying.
I am ministering to homeless, sick and broken people. I could never see them starve.
 

JosephsDreams

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The country is heading toward socialism. It's clear. Sad to see such a dramatic decline in work ethic before it's even here.