Walking on the edge of divorce

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Prayful

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Hi Everyone,

I am currently in a marriage that is on the boarder of complete destruction.

Right now, I feel hurt, pain, suffering and anger at this marriage and right now, Divorce feels like a way of freedom from a mistake I may have made. I'll explain:

After dating for almost two years, I married my wife (I’m 33 and she is 25 years old, both Christians) in May 2015, for better or worse. We knew we had some problems in our relationship, but we knew we loved each other and that as long as we allow god first into our marriage, our marriage will survive anything. The first couple of weeks were great. We were living a blissful marriage, she told me how she felt, I understood I was taking care of her properly and that she was happy, thus I was happy. And we were serving god in our relationship, which I felt like I was on cloud-9. God is truly good to our family.

Perhaps I was blind to the upcoming storm that was happening. After the first couple of weeks, she suddenly started to shy away from me. She would reject my intimate touches and would walk away from conversations of "what’s going on". Her answer would be "you are not taking care of my heart". Ok, at this point, I am confused because I would ask her in detail on what can I do to help take care of her heart from my end, and she would tell me "I do not know, you will have to figure it out". I am confused, but not defeated. I decided to do some research on taking care of a women's heart. Few things that I saw that I wasn't doing, such as: doing "activities" with her that she likes to do(I hate some of the activities, but I will do them because I love her), listening without arguing because her feelings are from her heart and other things websites say that could help your marriage grow. After two weeks of trying different things, none of it worked. She either tried 5 minutes of it and just said “I don’t feel like it anymore” or just walks away.

She also has started reading these love novels like “50 shades of Grey” and other sex novels. She often compares the main character “Christian Grey” to me and asks “why can’t you be more like Christian” or “I’ll make you into a Christian Grey”. It angers me to a point that we got into a few arguments about her reading those types of books and reminded her on how those type of books is a form of sin that can “snare the mind and pulls you away from God and your loved one”. She ignored me and continued to read those types of books, always looking at me and sighing as if she is disappointed. Finally, I got to the point where I told her that that book is causing our relationship to fail, why doesn’t she read the bible instead and let that enrich her heart; we can read together if she wanted to. But her answer to that was “the books are not the problem, it only help me realize that I never was “in love” with you.” At this point, I am blown away, this women, the 2[SUP]nd[/SUP] love of my life (God is first all the time), tells me that she was never in love with me and that she is miserable with me because she doesn’t have a “connection” with me, like those book characters have with their loved ones.

I’ll explain, she believes in a connection is formed on first sight, one that if you truly love that person, nothing can break them. Like a fairytale, when the prince meets the princess and they immediately fall in love and they have the bond that cannot be broken. He would jump mountains, and kill dragons for her, and she felt the same for him.

For a moment, my mind went blank. I felt like “What in the world did I just hear”. Out of the whole conversation, not one word of “God” slipped from her mouth. After that we had a fight and I had to walk away from her. I knew then, God was calling for me to step away and commune with him. I spent a few days reading about marriage restoration and how to be a good husband and how to strengthen your marriage. During this time, my wife was asking me to divorce her and let us both move on, because she made a mistake in marrying me and that she no longer loves me anymore. But I stood on and said “No, god will heal this marriage if we put him first, that connection will happen I will fight for our marriage.” For four weeks, I knew I was in the fight of my life, Satan was trying to break us apart but I wasn’t going to have none of that. I started going back to the gym (God’s temple needs to be “Cleansed”), prayed twice more every day and tried to listen to her feelings (without interrupting her and consoling her without criticizing her) and try to bring her back into God’s word on forming the “connection” she needs for this marriage to work. Took her out to new places to be alone and intimate with her because her complaint is that she “wants” to see different things. During all this time, she is constantly bombarding me with “I don’t love you anymore” or “Let’s get a divorce”. Even during those weeks, I caught her texting another guy (I snooped on her phone). I was furious, and wanted to confront her about this, but I kept it quiet and prayed that she isn’t doing anything that could compromise this relationship. I prayed for strength every day to fight off Satan’s attack against my heart and mind during all this time. For the first three weeks, I thought I was seeing a change from, she said to me “I like seeing these changes in you, it’s inspiring me to do better myself”, we were starting to get more intimate with each other and she was opening herself a bit to me every day. I felt a Joy that I have never had before because god was answering my prayer, and it makes me stronger and closer that I was before to God. But then it fell apart yesterday.

When we were eating breakfast, she wanted to play a word game. She asks me a question, and I would answer. But she asked me a weird question, and I wanted to know about the question, and she got frustrated that I didn’t answer the way she wanted to be answered. She then stood up and said “I can’t put of this sham anymore, I tried to love and care for you but I don’t love you anymore, let me go so I can find the person that can love me the way I want to be loved.” That was the straw that broke the camel back, we got into a huge fight and I left the apartment to cool down. After hours of praying and thinking, I decided that she is not my wife anymore and I need to let her go so I can find my “REAL” wife out there. I came home,(she was in bed watching television), grabbed my phone charger and some pillows to sleep in the other bedroom we have. This is when she confessed to me that she has been cheating on me with another guy. Luckily, I was prepared for this and told her “I Know” and left the room holding my anger back. She followed me to the other bedroom and we blew up in a huge argument and fight. I told her “I lost all respect, trust and now broken love with her and I want to move on without her in my life”. She wanted us to be friends during and after the divorce, I told her that a person cannot be friends with a poisonous wild viper, and all I want to do is move on without her and that I will pray for her on her next journey in life and hope she finds that special someone. This triggered another fight which I begged her to leave the room so I can commune with God because I am vulnerable right now. She then asked me “Do you love me?” I said yes I do, she said she wants marriage counselling and that if it doesn’t work out, we can divorce then.

At this moment, I am truly broken and I need restoration right now. Currently one half of me is saying “get a lawyer and grab the divorce papers, your only 70 days into your marriage”, another side is saying “Just hold on, Help could be right around the corner.” I don’t know what to do right now. I am seriously broken and I don’t think I can recover this marriage at all.
 

Fenner

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Wow prayful, I'm sorry you're going through this. First off your wife sounds very immature. You're right about those books, they are trash and although I've never read 50 shades of grey, I'm sure it's unrealistic. My friend told me about the man Christian Grey. He was a messed up person who was abused as a child and has commitment issues. She wants you to be like that?

She needs to get her head out of the clouds and understand that real life is different then fiction .

I will pray for you.
 
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atwhatcost

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You also need to be talking to your pastor about this, instead of announcing it on the searchable Internet.
 
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Sirk

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It really sounds like your wife wants you to be her emotional caretaker. I would bet that she has some unprocessed pain from childhood that she needs to peel back to heal from.
 
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Prayful

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You also need to be talking to your pastor about this, instead of announcing it on the searchable Internet.
Yes, I know. I just needed a way to release this from my chest ATM since I don't really have anybody to talk to ATM (she agreed we can post as long as I am anonymous). I've set an appointment already and just waiting for the scheduled time. Right now, I am just in a blur of emotions right now, and it's hard to see right now.
 
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blue_ladybug

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I typed a response, then the internet went down and I lost it.. :( Here's the summary of what I wrote:

I agree with Fenner that your wife is living in a fairy-tale la la land.. She refuses to accept you as you are, and wants to turn you into a fictional character in a sex novel. That's disgusting, IMO. She seems to be more in love with Christian Grey, rather than her own husband. Your wife is naive and immature and you shouldn't have to change anything about yourself to make HER happy. If she cannot accept you as you are, then that's her problem, not yours.

She has admitted that this marriage is a sham. She also flat-out said she does not love you. A marriage without love is not a real marriage, it is a farce. Her idea of marriage lies between the pages of 50 Shades. :/ If both of you feel that this marriage is irreconcilable, then have the marriage annulled. Let her go off to fairy tale land, and you resume your life until God puts the one HE has for you, into your path.

Talk to a pastor or counselor and consult an attorney.. She's not happy, you're not happy, so basically this marriage has already been abandoned..
 
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AgeofKnowledge

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"An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure." -Benjamin Franklin

My advice would be to never liable yourself with an anti-male government enforced legal contract. Personally, I just say no to things that are bad for me like drugs, alcohol, sexual immorality, and anti-male government enforced legal contracts that allow the government to rob me of my liberty, micromanage my personal life, redistribute my income, and put me in jail if I ever become too sick or unemployed to make their court-ordered payments to someone who's long gone and pleasuring herself with other men (and/or women).

The correct answer is "no, I do not" rather than "I do." Unfortunately, in your case, it appears that ship has sailed. Now what?

Great question, I hope you find a way through the madness. I see solutions in this order:

1. Don't place yourself under the punishing anti-male body of matrimonial law to begin with.
2. See if you can get an annulment.
3. Become an alpha male and take care of business in and out of bed so you can stay married. This beta trip you're on isn't working for her.
4. You're headed to divorce court anyway so sooner may be better than later for you, before you have children in the mix. Consult a divorce lawyer. Never repeat your mistake.
 
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Rosesrock

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Honestly i stopped reading your post at......she started reading 50 shades.....she has a distorted expectation of what she expects from you and what her role as a wife is....
Counseling.....someone neither of you know. Church...prayer and honestly, get her out if those books and into the Word.
Happiness comes from within and through knowing Christ, not what someone can give us.
 
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Rosesrock

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No, why give up so easily....really? OP says they are both christians.....satan is tearing this marriage apart. What??? You commited before God till death do you part. Fight the enemy not the wife.
 

blue_ladybug

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No, why give up so easily....really? OP says they are both christians.....satan is tearing this marriage apart. What??? You commited before God till death do you part. Fight the enemy not the wife.

There is no love left between them in this farce marriage.. She admitted that to him, and he told her he's lost all respect, love and trust in her. Without love and respect, there cannot be a viable marriage.. She says she wants marriage counseling, which seems a bit stupid, since she doesn't love him and asked him to let her go. She's living in dreamland and the sooner he lets her go, the better off they both will be.. God has something better planned for them both.
 

Angela53510

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This OP describes a real tragedy. You have a wife that is totally caught up in the media lie of what a marriage is about, cheating on you, and after just over 2 months of marriage.

I would try counseling, because you never know what will happen. However, she sounds like she has really severe emotional problems and that may need individual therapy. I also think a marriage is not just about a wife's needs. A husband has needs too, and she is totally unaware of what you need - a faithful, loving wife that you can trust.

I would consider trying to get an annulment, if your church does them. This marriage sounds like a sham to me. I do pray for healing for you and I hope counseling works, but if not, that you can trust God for whatever he has in store for you next.
 
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Rosesrock

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There is no love left between them in this farce marriage.. She admitted that to him, and he told her he's lost all respect, love and trust in her. Without love and respect, there cannot be a viable marriage.. She says she wants marriage counseling, which seems a bit stupid, since she doesn't love him and asked him to let her go. She's living in dreamland and the sooner he lets her go, the better off they both will be.. God has something better planned for them both.
I disagree...,i dont love my husband everyday but im commiting to God and the marriage. Through my own experiences, which are horrific and maybe ill share one day, God is for marriage. God does have a plan and it's this marriage. A marriage should nevet dissolve just because feelings change. Im thrilled my husband didnt just give up on me
 

Dino246

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Dear Prayful; I feel your pain. Words are inadequate. I don't know exactly how it feels, as every marital trauma is different, but I know mine was very painful. You are not alone. I'm tempted to offer advice, but for now I'll just pray.

Blessings,
Dino
 
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atwhatcost

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Yes, I know. I just needed a way to release this from my chest ATM since I don't really have anybody to talk to ATM (she agreed we can post as long as I am anonymous). I've set an appointment already and just waiting for the scheduled time. Right now, I am just in a blur of emotions right now, and it's hard to see right now.
Oh, good. So she knows. My fear was she'd stumble upon it googling and recognize herself... which just makes things eve worse.
 
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There is no love left between them in this farce marriage.. She admitted that to him, and he told her he's lost all respect, love and trust in her. Without love and respect, there cannot be a viable marriage.. She says she wants marriage counseling, which seems a bit stupid, since she doesn't love him and asked him to let her go. She's living in dreamland and the sooner he lets her go, the better off they both will be.. God has something better planned for them both.
Okay, so... woman to woman, really? Really really? You've never had some truly stupid idea come into your head, got stuck on it, couldn't see it as stupid, so went with that's reality for a month, or two or a few years? If you haven't, then I dub you the weirdest woman ever! (And that's saying a lot considering and then there's me. And because I do know I'm weird, understand I'm not saying "weird" as a bad thing. If you're truly like that, I'm envious of you.)

Remember, they were dating for two years before getting married. You can't simply hide who you are with someone you're becoming closer and closer to for a whole two years. (Well, maybe a woman can do that somewhere in the world, but that would displace both you and e as "most weirdest woman" spot. lol) So, something truly weird happened to Mrs. Prayful in the last two months. What it is, none of us would be able to nail, although I'm thinking that some of us can point to a book she read as a possible answer.

Something genuinely weird happened to this woman. If she honestly always thought Prayful would cater to her every need through telepathy, that just has to be something he'd figure out in the two years they dated, and, I suspect strongly, would have given him a strong desire to move as far away from her as humanly possible.

Something happened. I'm a woman. I distinctly remember getting some big Bozo-stupide idea into my head, believing it was totally real, walked to the cliff's edge and only hubby could pull me away from the next step that would have taken me off that ledge. (It cost us $10,000 so I'm not talking just another silly idea.) It happens. I personally think this is more of a female trait than a male trait, but that's just personal experience talking.

Mrs. Prayful isn't necessarily off the edge of the cliff yet. She may well be able to be talked off this madness because it's new madness.

Our problem is we feel bad for Mr. Prayful, so naturally want to give him a quick and easy solution out -- LEAVE!

Sounds easy to us because either we've never had to do that, or we have and have survived it.

BUT that's our answer, not his. Give some room for both God and Mrs. Prayful. Two months doesn't mean it's over. It means it's off to a rocky start. I bet if we did a poll on this site, found a way to make sure those who answered were truly believers and married, that about half would say their marriage had a rocky start. It happens! It's really a thing, and not always an indicator that the marriage is doomed.

BUT, Mr. Prayful, this is exactly why I suggested running to your pastor. There are those of us who will want you to feel better so will tell you to give up. You've got to know that's all that is -- trying to make you feel better, when, in reality, quitting now would make you feel worse and the kind of worse that never leaves you until death.

So, serious. I get you needed to dump. Been there. Done that, but, tomorrow, after church service pull your pastor aside and set up a meeting to see him. AND let him know this is an emergency! (It really is and it's going to take some big effort so it will take time too.)

It's your first step with many steps after that. Just know that costly Bozo-idea cost hubby and me to lose a lot of money, but it never meant I completely lost my mind. I only lost it for eight months. (I wasn't crazy. I was offered a home-based business, thoroughly checked it out, before signing up, and missed some obvious signs when I did check it out. We woman are more geared to emotions, so when we think something is brilliant, we think that makes it the right answer. It's an emotional reaction.) Your marriage isn't over yet. It may never be. You can still grow old and happy, but you'll need to get someone to help you and her get there now, or the misery she is giving you now will turn into resentment quickly. Probably already has.
 
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Rosesrock

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Okay, so... woman to woman, really? Really really? You've never had some truly stupid idea come into your head, got stuck on it, couldn't see it as stupid, so went with that's reality for a month, or two or a few years? If you haven't, then I dub you the weirdest woman ever! (And that's saying a lot considering and then there's me. And because I do know I'm weird, understand I'm not saying "weird" as a bad thing. If you're truly like that, I'm envious of you.)

Remember, they were dating for two years before getting married. You can't simply hide who you are with someone you're becoming closer and closer to for a whole two years. (Well, maybe a woman can do that somewhere in the world, but that would displace both you and e as "most weirdest woman" spot. lol) So, something truly weird happened to Mrs. Prayful in the last two months. What it is, none of us would be able to nail, although I'm thinking that some of us can point to a book she read as a possible answer.

Something genuinely weird happened to this woman. If she honestly always thought Prayful would cater to her every need through telepathy, that just has to be something he'd figure out in the two years they dated, and, I suspect strongly, would have given him a strong desire to move as far away from her as humanly possible.

Something happened. I'm a woman. I distinctly remember getting some big Bozo-stupide idea into my head, believing it was totally real, walked to the cliff's edge and only hubby could pull me away from the next step that would have taken me off that ledge. (It cost us $10,000 so I'm not talking just another silly idea.) It happens. I personally think this is more of a female trait than a male trait, but that's just personal experience talking.

Mrs. Prayful isn't necessarily off the edge of the cliff yet. She may well be able to be talked off this madness because it's new madness.

Our problem is we feel bad for Mr. Prayful, so naturally want to give him a quick and easy solution out -- LEAVE!

Sounds easy to us because either we've never had to do that, or we have and have survived it.

BUT that's our answer, not his. Give some room for both God and Mrs. Prayful. Two months doesn't mean it's over. It means it's off to a rocky start. I bet if we did a poll on this site, found a way to make sure those who answered were truly believers and married, that about half would say their marriage had a rocky start. It happens! It's really a thing, and not always an indicator that the marriage is doomed.

BUT, Mr. Prayful, this is exactly why I suggested running to your pastor. There are those of us who will want you to feel better so will tell you to give up. You've got to know that's all that is -- trying to make you feel better, when, in reality, quitting now would make you feel worse and the kind of worse that never leaves you until death.

So, serious. I get you needed to dump. Been there. Done that, but, tomorrow, after church service pull your pastor aside and set up a meeting to see him. AND let him know this is an emergency! (It really is and it's going to take some big effort so it will take time too.)

It's your first step with many steps after that. Just know that costly Bozo-idea cost hubby and me to lose a lot of money, but it never meant I completely lost my mind. I only lost it for eight months. (I wasn't crazy. I was offered a home-based business, thoroughly checked it out, before signing up, and missed some obvious signs when I did check it out. We woman are more geared to emotions, so when we think something is brilliant, we think that makes it the right answer. It's an emotional reaction.) Your marriage isn't over yet. It may never be. You can still grow old and happy, but you'll need to get someone to help you and her get there now, or the misery she is giving you now will turn into resentment quickly. Probably already has.
If my husband and i had telepathy, my life would be SO much better.
Weird?? Yes satan happened to this marriage. The discontent, cloudy thoughts, i thought i was gonna be different. Of course we all try harder before we're married. Then when the i dos are done, then we settle in.
Mr playful said they had problem before marriage, who doesnt? Early in his post he said they were both believers which means hope to no end. Go back to the basics.
Ladies we need to get out of this.....he needs to automatically know what i need....thats straight from the pit of hell. Honestly, they are focused on providing and really....if your husband gets up everyday and goes to work, guess what? Thats better than some.
We pray for what we want, amd forget about what we need.
This marriage may not have been God's plan, but it is now.
 
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AgeofKnowledge

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I'd reverse the power in that dysfunctional codependent relationship. Instead of being confused, disoriented, etc... by letting her choices run my life and control my emotional state; I'd turn that 180 degrees.

I'd check into a motel room, mute my phone, and draw up an accurate list of her negative behavioral choices and make sure it was long enough that I could go for two hours if need be.

Then, I would go back with my phone on audio and video record (to protect myself in case it became a criminal court matter) which I would hold with an iron grip so it couldn't be slapped or pulled from my hand and calmly confront her with her negative behaviors patiently listing them and explaining why they were negative until, by tears or anger, she began reacting.

If she locked herself in a room, I'd continue through the two hour long list anyways. If she began screaming in my face, I'd continue through the two hour long list anyways without backing up an inch (but taking care not to threaten or act threateningly so that if she called the police I could show them the video in which I'd merely be holding her accountable for her negative behaviors without threatening or making any illegal or threatening motions whatsoever).

If she tried to leave, I'd follow her continuing through the two hour long list and every time she returned rewind and start over until the mission was completed (e.g. alpha dominance established). If she turned violent, then I would immediately stop and use my backup phone (while still recording with the other) to call police and have her arrested for battery (and when she made bail and returned home I would rewind and start over while recording).

This would continue unabated, rewinding and starting over each time I finished the list, until she relented to my alpha dominance or ended the relationship.

I survived the street gang explosion of the 80's in LA in which I had to fight to survive right in the middle of the street sometimes. I survived gang murder attempts on my life because criminal homies got the poo beat out of them when they messed with me and wanted their revenge. I survived the U.S. military. I survived a couple of decades of fortune 500 boardroom politics. I certainly can and would survive one crazy immature emotional immoral female.

If alpha dominance was established, I would began a new non-codependent relationship with a new set of ground rules and lead it making sure the sex (which is a really big deal for her and that's OK btw as we're talking about a married scenario here) got done right (maximize her pleasure within the bounds of God's design for men and women as per scripture). Obviously, the what and how is beyond this forum so aspiring alpha males will need to educate themselves until they develop the necessary competency in this area. I'd also suggest beta males get to a good codependence support group because most of them need to be in one.

If, after all the drama/police calls/court cases/restraining orders and other associated BS, she was finally gone; then I would brew a pot of gourmet coffee and start a new day taking care to never entangle myself like that again.

Either way, I'm not going to be the beta. Fetch my socks.
 
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Rosesrock

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I'd reverse the power in that dysfunctional codependent relationship. Instead of being confused, disoriented, etc... by letting her choices run my life and control my emotional state; I'd turn that 180 degrees.

I'd check into a motel room, mute my phone, and draw up an accurate list of her negative behavioral choices and make sure it was long enough that I could go for two hours if need be.

Then, I would go back with my phone on audio and video record (to protect myself in case it became a criminal court matter) which I would hold with an iron grip so it couldn't be slapped or pulled from my hand and calmly confront her with her negative behaviors patiently listing them and explaining why they were negative until, by tears or anger, she began reacting.

If she locked herself in a room, I'd continue through the two hour long list anyways. If she began screaming in my face, I'd continue through the two hour long list anyways without backing up an inch (but taking care not to threaten or act threateningly so that if she called the police I could show them the video in which I'd merely be holding her accountable for her negative behaviors without threatening or making any illegal or threatening motions whatsoever).

If she tried to leave, I'd follow her continuing through the two hour long list and every time she returned rewind and start over until the mission was completed (e.g. alpha dominance established). If she turned violent, then I would immediately stop and use my backup phone (while still recording with the other) to call police and have her arrested for battery (and when she made bail and returned home I would rewind and start over while recording).

This would continue unabated, rewinding and starting over each time I finished the list, until she relented to my alpha dominance or ended the relationship.

I survived the street gang explosion of the 80's in LA in which I had to fight to survive right in the middle of the street sometimes. I survived gang murder attempts on my life because criminal homies got the poo beat out of them when they messed with me and wanted their revenge. I survived the U.S. military. I survived a couple of decades of fortune 500 boardroom politics. I certainly can and would survive one crazy immature emotional immoral female.

If alpha dominance was established, I would began a new non-codependent relationship with a new set of ground rules and lead it making sure the sex (which is a really big deal for her and that's OK btw as we're talking about a married scenario here) got done right (maximize her pleasure within the bounds of God's design for men and women as per scripture). Obviously, the what and how is beyond this forum so aspiring alpha males will need to educate themselves until they develop the necessary competency in this area. I'd also suggest beta males get to a good codependence support group because most of them need to be in one.

If, after all the drama/police calls/court cases/restraining orders and other associated BS, she was finally gone; then I would brew a pot of gourmet coffee and start a new day taking care to never entangle myself like that again.

Either way, I'm not going to be the beta. Fetch my socks.
Althought i agree with of this, i truly hope the fetch my socks was a joke. Yes she needs authority. I acted like a child early in my marriage, he looked at me and said....straighten up or there's the door. In jesus' name.....i loved so much i didnt scratch his eyes out, stayed and in the end let him lives. There's three people involved here......her, him, god.

Pour me some coffee
 
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AgeofKnowledge

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Yes, the fetch my socks remark was a bit and the brewer's making a pot of Hawaiian Kona, single filter, as I write this.

i truly hope the fetch my socks was a joke... Pour me some coffee
 
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