Battle Hymn - Laura Williams

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EmilyFoster

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What a beautiful voice and song. Thanks for sharing, friend. Blessings to you!
 

Quantrill

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It is a beautiful song. But it is not a Christian song by any stretch. I encourage all to look up its origin and writer.

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PyongPing

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It is a beautiful song. But it is not a Christian song by any stretch. I encourage all to look up its origin and writer.

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You mean? Doesn't seem that bad origins and transitions and translation - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_Hymn_of_the_Republic

Here is the final version of the Lyrics: - https://www.hymnlyrics.org/mostpopularhymns/battle_hymn_of_the_republic.php

Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord;
He is trampling out the vintage where the grapes of wrath are stored;
He hath loosed the fateful lightning of His terrible swift sword;
His truth is marching on.
Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Glory! Glory! Hallelujah!
Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! His truth is marching on.

I have seen Him in the watch fires of a hundred circling camps
They have builded Him an altar in the evening dews and damps;
I can read His righteous sentence by the dim and flaring lamps;
His day is marching on.
Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Glory! Glory! Hallelujah!
Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! His day is marching on.

I have read a fiery Gospel writ in burnished rows of steel;
“As ye deal with My contemners, so with you My grace shall deal";
Let the Hero, born of woman, crush the serpent with His heel,
Since God is marching on.
Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Glory! Glory! Hallelujah!
Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Since God is marching on.

He has sounded forth the trumpet that shall never call retreat;
He is sifting out the hearts of men before His judgment seat;
Oh, be swift, my soul, to answer Him! be jubilant, my feet;
Our God is marching on.
Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Glory! Glory! Hallelujah!
Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Our God is marching on.

In the beauty of the lilies Christ was born across the sea,
With a glory in His bosom that transfigures you and me:
As He died to make men holy, let us live to make men free;
[originally …let us die to make men free]
While God is marching on.
Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Glory! Glory! Hallelujah!
Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! While God is marching on.

He is coming like the glory of the morning on the wave,
He is wisdom to the mighty, He is honor to the brave;
So the world shall be His footstool, and the soul of wrong His slave,
Our God is marching on.
Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Glory! Glory! Hallelujah!
Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Our God is marching on.

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The song itself seems to be a minature version of how the Gospel takes that which is dirty, broken, and of the world, and transforms it by the grace of God, into that which is new, born again, glorifies God, like as how God does for the man.
 

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You mean? Doesn't seem that bad origins and transitions and translation - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_Hymn_of_the_Republic

Here is the final version of the Lyrics: - https://www.hymnlyrics.org/mostpopularhymns/battle_hymn_of_the_republic.php


The song itself seems to be a minature version of how the Gospel takes that which is dirty, broken, and of the world, and transforms it by the grace of God, into that which is new, born again, glorifies God, like as how God does for the man.
It is but one of the many versions of the song 'John Browns Body'. John Brown became a Christ-like figure in the North, especially the New England area. New England was steeped in the new cult of Transcendentalism of which Ralph Waldo Emerson was the prophet.

The Transcendentalist's did not believe in the Deity of Jesus Christ. They believed more in the goodness of man. Julia Ward Howe became a Transcendentalist and wrote the lyrics to this song. She was an abolitionist also. She worshipped John Brown, as many in the North did.

The song is more about John Brown than God and Christ. More about destroying the Southern people and freeing slaves than the Gospel of salvation.

It really has no place in any Christian hymn book.

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PyongPing

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The song is more about John Brown than God and Christ
Can you show me where "John Brown" is in the final song that is sung, as stated in the lyrics above? I read only of God and Christ. You are looking at a carnal beginning rather than the spiritual ending.

It would be the same as looking upon your own carnal past in its beginnings, rather than upon what God's grace has done in you, and when completed.

God is indeed marching on, Revelation 6:2.

As, stated, I think the song itself, acts as an allegory of the wonderful transformative grace of God, from Christ-less to Christian. Seeing the end from the beginning.
 

Quantrill

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Can you show me where "John Brown" is in the final song that is sung, as stated in the lyrics above? I read only of God and Christ. You are looking at a carnal beginning rather than the spiritual ending.

It would be the same as looking upon your own carnal past in its beginnings, rather than upon what God's grace has done in you, and when completed.

God is indeed marching on, Revelation 6:2.

As, stated, I think the song itself, acts as an allegory of the wonderful transformative grace of God, from Christ-less to Christian. Seeing the end from the beginning.
The song is nothing but an allegory glorifying John Brown and the yankees as they destroy the Southern people.

Do you acknowledge that Julia Ward Howe was a Transcendentalist? Do you acknowledge that John Brown was given a Christ-likeness in the North?

Do you acknowledge that Julia Ward Howe wrote this latest rendition of 'John Brown's Body' known as 'Battle Hymn of the Republic'.

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Quantrill

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You refuse to answer my questions.
I am answering your question, not questions. I am establishing what we agree on before going further as it helps answer your quesiton. So...let me repeat.

Do you acknowledge that Julia Ward Howe was a Transcendentalist?

Do you acknowledge that John Brown was given a Christ-likeness in the North?

Do you acknowledge that Julia Ward Howe wrote this latest rendition of 'John Brown's Body' , what we know as 'Battle Hymn of the Republic' ?

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