America’s Next Civil War

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He's joking! He doesn't believe in the Rapture, as I do not. But the right wing dispensationalists sure do!
Rapture you say? Oh yes. Indeed the concept is firmly established in Scripture. I for one cannot understand all of the contention and confusion.


Definition: Harpazo
v.
1. to seize, carry off by force
2. to seize on, claim for one’s self eagerly
3. to snatch out or away
~ from Thayer’s (New Testament Greek-English Lexicon)

In the Greek New Testament, the word harpazo is found a total of 17 times in 13 different verses. Each time harpazo is used this verb refers to a quick or sudden often violently physical “snatching away” or “catching away” of a person, a thing, or an idea. More important is the fact that in 5 of these 17 times harpazo is used in the New Testament harpazo ALWAYS refers to the literal physical (bodily) removal of a faithfully righteous human being from one place to another, or from one sphere of existence to another. The 5 times harpazo is used involving faithfully righteous people are when:
1. Philip is harpazo’d from the presence of the Ethiopian eunuch to a different location miles away (see Acts 8:39, AKJV)
2. Paul is harpazo’d from the Earth to the Third Heaven (see 2 Corinthians 12:2, AKJV)
3. Paul is harpazo’d from the Earth to the Third Heaven; second reference (see 2 Corinthians 12:4, AKJV)
4. Bride of Christ is harpazo’d from the Earth to the clouds to meet Her Groom (Christ Jesus) in the air (see 1 Thessalonians 4:17, AKJV); the understanding here is that the Bride will be taken to Heaven to be with Her Groom
5. Christ Jesus is harpazo’d from Bethany near the Mount of Olives to His Throne in Heaven (see Revelation 12:5; cf. Luke 24:50-51; Acts 1:9; AKJV)



and I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father’s hand. ~ John 10:28-29, AKJV
And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing. ~ Acts 8:39, AKJV
And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne. ~ Revelation 12:5, AKJV

These verses are interesting in that, first off, Jesus Christ is saying that He is the ONE who will “pluck” (pull, take by force, or snatch/catch up) His Body of Believers or Bride out of harm’s way (the Tribulation Period) so that His Bride will be with Him in Heaven. The Power (force) He will use to “pluck” (pull, take, snatch, or catch up) His Body of Believers or Bride is the Power of Almighty God, which means the Power of God’s Holy Spirit.
Thus, the word “pluck”, which in John 10:28-29 has been translated from the Greek word harpazo, should remind believers in Christ Jesus that, while Jesus Christ eventually will “pluck” them out of this world, He also has promised to keep them secure while they are in this world. The Lord has said that while His disciples/believers/followers are on this Earth NO ONE would be able to “pluck” them out of His hands nor out of the Father’s hands.
Secondly, the phrase “caught away,” in Acts 8:39, also has been translated from the Greek word harpazo. In this case, “caught away” refers to what happened to Philip, an evangelist. He is raptured from the southern desert surrounding Samaria to Azotus (Ashdod), after salvation had come to the Ethiopian eunuch. This Philip is one of the seven men who, because they were of honest report, full of the Holy Spirit, and wisdom, initially were selected to serve tables and superintend the distribution of food (see Acts 6:3). Therefore, the interesting thing here is that Jesus Christ has said ONLY He would do the plucking (harpazo’ing or rapturing), so it is ONLY the Lord via the Holy Spirit who has harpazo’d Philip from one place in Israel to another location.
Then too, in
Revelation 12:5, the phrase “caught up” also has been translated from the Greek word harpazo. Here “caught up” refers to Christ Jesus’ Ascension, which takes place 40 days after His resurrection and 10 days before the Day of Pentecost, when for the very first time in Christ-followers’ history the Holy Spirit is poured out on the 120 Upper Room Jewish disciples. This verse is a symbolic presentation of what actually happened in Acts 1:9, when while the Lord is blessing His disciples He suddenly is taken up or carried up (cf. Luke 24:50-51). So then, the interesting thing here is that since NO ONE can “pluck” any of the Lord’s followers out of His hand or out of the Father’s hand, then the ONLY ONE who is catching up (harpazo’ing or rapturing) the Lord is the Father via the Holy Spirit.
 

Locutus

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He's joking! He doesn't believe in the Rapture, as I do not. But the right wing dispensationalists sure do!
And so does Mike Pence - when Trump is impeached we'll see how that view becomes more entrenched in US diplomacy (think the recent embassy move).
 
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7seasrekeyed

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Nationwide repentance would be a good start. Then keeping it up would be a good ending.

this is not Israel and not a theocracy

it would be good if Christians in this nation would pray

what is repentance? people throw out that word like it is magic. people love to quote the verse: 14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves and, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land. II Chronicles 7:14

since the wickedness now starts in grade school, the very foundations are broken and torn down

there will be no nationwide repentance

notice how God says through the prophet that prayer is humbling yourself before God?
 
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7seasrekeyed

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And so does Mike Pence - when Trump is impeached we'll see how that view becomes more entrenched in US diplomacy (think the recent embassy move).
Trump will not be impeached. his second term may be in jeopardy but not because of impeachment

you may despise the man, but you are not in charge
 

Locutus

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Trump will not be impeached. his second term may be in jeopardy but not because of impeachment
This is what my crystal ball sees, the Dems will go after impeachment when the facts are in - the non Trump supporters in GOP that had to fall in line or lose "the embrace" will seize on the opportunity to out him, in strides Pence the next dispensational pope.
 
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7seasrekeyed

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This is what my crystal ball sees, the Dems will go after impeachment when the facts are in - the non Trump supporters in GOP that had to fall in line or lose "the embrace" will seize on the opportunity to out him, in strides Pence the next dispensational pope.

ok and I used to believe in the tooth fairy

but for sure the Dems will desire impeachment with fangs exposed and lies at the ready


what facts? there are no impeachment facts available. you can't impeach the prez on wishes and a lucky penny ...but there are still plenty of Rhinos in the GOP come to think of it

if they do manage to impeach, nothing good will come of it
 

Locutus

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Rep. Steve King has civil war on his mind.

The Iowa Republican broached the subject in a Saturday evening Facebook post — a meme of two fighting Frankenstein figures, one red and one blue, each an amalgamation of states based on their political leanings. The art was ripped and uncredited, as meme art usually is, from a New York Times book review in 2013, and was originally designed by Yarek Waszul.

“Folks keep talking about another civil war,” the meme read. “One side has about 8 trillion bullets, while the other side doesn’t know which bathroom to use.”



King deleted the post, which he shared on an official campaign page, on Monday. His office did not respond to questions about the picture and his reasons for posting and removing it.

Sauce:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...vil-war/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.6cc2285afda4
 

gb9

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Rep. Steve King has civil war on his mind.

The Iowa Republican broached the subject in a Saturday evening Facebook post — a meme of two fighting Frankenstein figures, one red and one blue, each an amalgamation of states based on their political leanings. The art was ripped and uncredited, as meme art usually is, from a New York Times book review in 2013, and was originally designed by Yarek Waszul.

“Folks keep talking about another civil war,” the meme read. “One side has about 8 trillion bullets, while the other side doesn’t know which bathroom to use.”



King deleted the post, which he shared on an official campaign page, on Monday. His office did not respond to questions about the picture and his reasons for posting and removing it.

Sauce:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...vil-war/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.6cc2285afda4
ah. but this meme is true.
 

Jimbone

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That is not all they are doing. They also seek to hinder any conservative progress through the use of the courts. They are using the legal system as a weapon to oppose. They are seeking to intimidate conservatives in public. They are making it physically unsafe for one to be a public supporter of Trump. They attack legitimate demonstrations by conservatives. Those in power let them attack.

And don't think liberals don't know about guns. That shooter in Las Vegas killed a whole lot of conservatives. That shooter in Washington shot up the conservative baseball field seriously wounding one senator. Liberals know all about guns. They just don't want you to have them.

There will be civil war in this country. The left has shown they cannot and will not live under conservative rule. It will probably break up into anarchy first. Which means you better be prepared. Then people will slowly gather with those of like race and mind.

The U.S at this time is an oxymoron. Preaching diversity and boasting of unity.

Quantrill
See I agree they are doing this, but with each ridiculous move they further expose their true agenda. More and more people are seeing the hypocrisy, and it has just run it's course to the point they have nowhere else to take it but to the extreme like this. This is why they have to okay abortion up to birth, and come out as full fledged socialist, with support, here in the US, because the lines in the sand are being exposed by the light, and one side stands in light, truth, and life, and the other is steeped in lies veiled in darkness and death. (please understand I am talking ultimate's here, I know full well, and would never argue that BOTH "sides" of the political world lie now) You are going to be a slave to your sin or of Jesus, strait up. Who's your Master? I know that's strong language and most here don't think of it like this, but it's true. Either your nature will be governed by the flesh, by sin, or by spirit, His Spirit.

The truth of the matter is that one side has nothing to stand on at all (again just to be fair, I feel a lot of the "This side", has no idea what they are standing on either, or even why they are even standing there), so they end up being the side that says "you can never ever judge anyone for anyway they want to be, at all, ever", out of one side of your mouth, then jump on people like Kavanaugh or the "maga hat high school boys" in condemnation of the magnitude that would have amazed even the most zealous of religious pharisees, right before it's shown their targets are not even guilty. Now it's to the point some are manufacturing hate crimes to create the illusion of a nonexistent problem. The truth will come to light, and we have to battle it with the only weapon we're given as Christians, His word. Only truth can free us personally, as a community, as a nation and as a world. Only through Him can we have peace, and He gave us our missions. Man I love our God!!!!:LOL: I also pray we are all draw closer to Him every day and His power is made manifest right in front of us. Amen
 

RickyZ

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Rep. Steve King has civil war on his mind.

The Iowa Republican broached the subject in a Saturday evening Facebook post — a meme of two fighting Frankenstein figures, one red and one blue, each an amalgamation of states based on their political leanings. The art was ripped and uncredited, as meme art usually is, from a New York Times book review in 2013, and was originally designed by Yarek Waszul.

“Folks keep talking about another civil war,” the meme read. “One side has about 8 trillion bullets, while the other side doesn’t know which bathroom to use.”



King deleted the post, which he shared on an official campaign page, on Monday. His office did not respond to questions about the picture and his reasons for posting and removing it.

Sauce:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...vil-war/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.6cc2285afda4
It won't be a left vs right war, it'll be anarchy in the streets. And the world vs Christians.
 

SIMON55

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Civil War .....Hilarious... Lol
Your going to get a bunch of self absorbed narcissistic Americans to get off the internet and put their phones down long enough to have a war........oooohohoho ....ahahaaahahaha.....
Too funny what are they going to pay for it with their credit cards.......?
What are the gun control Democrats going to fight it with.....?....sticks and rocks ?
More likely everyone will die from a mass epidemic of ignorance that has become epic proportion.....
oh I am so scared they might send their after birth abortionists after me with $2.00 hammers!!!!
Maybe their secret weapons are those $700.00 high heels they shop for.....
Look out here come the anchor baby armies......
Put your gas masks on they are spewing their vile gastric sewage again......!!!!
Danger danger danger......
Toxic communist propoganda ahead !!!!!!
Be sure to take your food stamps and welfare checks with you when you go off to war!!!!
And don't forget to take your day after pills!!!
The worst part is when they burn their own neighborhoods down so they can loot.....now that there is real tactical warfare at its finest!!!!
They can't kill anything but their own babies !!!!
Give me a break with the war business and Canada lol a lot of brave souls there that never fought for anything !!!
Matter of fact all the Dems should just run off to O'Canada like slick willie clinton did the first sign of war !!!! What a laugh and an oxymoron.....The only wars they fight are against babies and guns.
 

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Canada is already developing more overseas markets to lessen impact the US would have on our economy.

We'll soon have an oil pipeline to the west coast - LNG project in BC, these are all overseas markets.

Trumps behavior towards its allies and trading partners has not gone unnoticed.

We'll survive.
While America thrives.
 

SIMON55

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Canada is already developing more overseas markets to lessen impact the US would have on our economy.

We'll soon have an oil pipeline to the west coast - LNG project in BC, these are all overseas markets.

Trumps behavior towards its allies and trading partners has not gone unnoticed.

We'll survive.
Well do it quietly w/o so much blowhard!!! Unless you wish to wake a sleeping GIANT.... 0103192030.jpg