As tensions with Trump deepen, Europe wonders if America is lost for good.

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As tensions with Trump deepen, Europe wonders if America is lost for good.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/worl...merica-is-lost-for-good/ar-AAxw4Je?li=BBnb7Kz

All the while they are working together to bring the power to Europe, and makes Europe to be the good guy, and America to be the bad guy, and America takes a back seat and joins them, and soon the ten horn kingdom, the world split in to ten sections with a leader in each section.

Key German leaders want to end sanctions against Russia.Such a decision might seem like a minor piece of economic news, but it could be the beginning of a major break between Europe and America and the separation of Germany from the Western security alliance.

Also many are calling for a combined European army.
 

Nehemiah6

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As tensions with Trump deepen, Europe wonders if America is lost for good.
What an absolute joke. Europe has chosen to destroy itself, therefore they oppose Trump and his healthy nationalism and desire to put America first. Each of those Western European political leaders should have done the same instead of become globalist elitists.

As to a combined European army, they will probably all run away if Putin decides to invade Western Europe.
 

Ezekiel8

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What an absolute joke. Europe has chosen to destroy itself, therefore they oppose Trump and his healthy nationalism and desire to put America first. Each of those Western European political leaders should have done the same instead of become globalist elitists.

As to a combined European army, they will probably all run away if Putin decides to invade Western Europe.
I agree with you, but I see this article more as the liberals over here trying to (weakly) convince us to go backwards into chains and slavery to their wicked liberal system. I do not see this as a genuine reflection of European political thought.
 

maxwel

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"Europe Wonders..."


The writer of that article seems awfully confident giving us the exact thoughts of 740 Million different people.


I usually have trouble figuring out the thoughts of just ONE person.
 

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well, many of us here in America see all the muslim crime, and the constant rhetoric from e.u. politicians about bringing in more and more, we think euorpe has fallen....
 

tanakh

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"Europe Wonders..."


The writer of that article seems awfully confident giving us the exact thoughts of 740 Million different people.


I usually have trouble figuring out the thoughts of just ONE person.
LOL Once again Maxwell you have hit the button. In the European media its those who shout loudest that get the attention.

Italy that has born the brunt of much of the immigrant problem has voted in a coalition that wants to deport half a million immigrants, change EU rules so that the country where immigrants first arrive will be responsible for them. This would effect the UK where many cross over several borders before attempting to reach here' although many end up stuck in France at present. The other Italian policy is about their debt to the EU which amounts to telling them to get stuffed. none of this sounds very liberal to me!
 

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As tensions with Trump deepen, Europe wonders if America is lost for good.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/worl...merica-is-lost-for-good/ar-AAxw4Je?li=BBnb7Kz

All the while they are working together to bring the power to Europe, and makes Europe to be the good guy, and America to be the bad guy, and America takes a back seat and joins them, and soon the ten horn kingdom, the world split in to ten sections with a leader in each section.

Key German leaders want to end sanctions against Russia.Such a decision might seem like a minor piece of economic news, but it could be the beginning of a major break between Europe and America and the separation of Germany from the Western security alliance.

Also many are calling for a combined European army.
A National Guard unit from the US could easily defeat a combined European Army. I don't see how anything that Germany does would affect anything at all in regards to Russia. Germany is just a bit player on the drama played out of the world's stage.
 

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What an absolute joke. Europe has chosen to destroy itself, therefore they oppose Trump and his healthy nationalism and desire to put America first. Each of those Western European political leaders should have done the same instead of become globalist elitists.

As to a combined European army, they will probably all run away if Putin decides to invade Western Europe.
I agree with your military assessment in this scenario.
 

tanakh

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Some of you really should make up your minds. Is Europe destroying itself, being one of ten world regions or being the whole Beast. Also which bit of Europe are you talking about? All these migrants are found mainly in Germany,France and Italy. In Britain most of our migrants are from Poland and other Eastern European countries with Christian backgrounds. The Muslims here have very little to do with the influx on the mainland. They are mainly from Bangladesh and Pakistan and came here years ago. A large proportion were born here. I understand that the US has a large home grown Muslim population itself. I wonder how you are going to cope with them.
 

tanakh

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Just in case you think we are all weak spine liberals in the UK. Please remember that 51% of those who voted wanted to leave the EU. The two major reasons were to do with international Trade and European Immigration polices. Many of those who don't have their own agendas and are still trying to prevent it happening. Those who want to remain consist of the main Opposition parties and the Scottish regional Government.
 

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Just in case you think we are all weak spine liberals in the UK. Please remember that 51% of those who voted wanted to leave the EU.
So the weak spine is showing in that Brexit has not yet been implemented. We are waiting.
 

tanakh

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So the weak spine is showing in that Brexit has not yet been implemented. We are waiting.

No its been likened to a Divorce process. The finalities take place in March next year. One things to be settled is the question of border controls with the Republic of Ireland and Ulster. At present there is none because we both belong to the EU
 

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What an absolute joke. Europe has chosen to destroy itself, therefore they oppose Trump and his healthy nationalism and desire to put America first. Each of those Western European political leaders should have done the same instead of become globalist elitists.

As to a combined European army, they will probably all run away if Putin decides to invade Western Europe.
Russian armed forces is not enough to invade Western Europe.

What Russia wants are buffer zones from NATO countries. (Ukraine, Georgia or just near Russia)

Russia does not trust the US very much especially with the hawks like Pompeo and Bolton in the Presidential Cabinet.

Russia wants buffer zones to make sure that no US or NATO bases will be used to blockade or to bombard Russia in the future.

As tensions with Trump deepen, Europe wonders if America is lost for good.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/worl...merica-is-lost-for-good/ar-AAxw4Je?li=BBnb7Kz

All the while they are working together to bring the power to Europe, and makes Europe to be the good guy, and America to be the bad guy, and America takes a back seat and joins them, and soon the ten horn kingdom, the world split in to ten sections with a leader in each section.

Key German leaders want to end sanctions against Russia.Such a decision might seem like a minor piece of economic news, but it could be the beginning of a major break between Europe and America and the separation of Germany from the Western security alliance.

Also many are calling for a combined European army.
The US has no more obligations to protect Europe because the Cold War is over. The US must help modernize EU's army instead of protecting it with US military assets and bases.

The USSR and Warsaw Pact have gone and I believe the combined and modernized EU army is enough to beat Russia.

Key German leaders want to end sanctions against Russia.
I am not surprised because Germany relies well on Russian gas and a lot of German businessmen have businesses in Russia as well. some even became naturalized Russian citizen.
 

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As tensions with Trump deepen, Europe wonders if America is lost for good.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/worl...merica-is-lost-for-good/ar-AAxw4Je?li=BBnb7Kz

All the while they are working together to bring the power to Europe, and makes Europe to be the good guy, and America to be the bad guy, and America takes a back seat and joins them, and soon the ten horn kingdom, the world split in to ten sections with a leader in each section.

Key German leaders want to end sanctions against Russia.Such a decision might seem like a minor piece of economic news, but it could be the beginning of a major break between Europe and America and the separation of Germany from the Western security alliance.

Also many are calling for a combined European army.
Do you wonder about it? For us it seems that we can not trust longer the US.
And far less we trust the Russian.
Trump Shows himself as America First. And this works not among equal Partners.
This works also not among Friends.
But we know, that the Future will come as the Bible says it. And all what we find now in the World will works for it. Our leaders are given from God and he will fulfill his purpose with them. Personell I dont want have war in my Country. But the fear of a war grows since Trump became President.
And Please do not forget, Germany has christian Roots, but is not an christian Country. The same with Europe. Our Constitution is Build on the 10 comentments, but the most people living according their own will.
 

Nehemiah6

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I agree with you, but I see this article more as the liberals over here trying to (weakly) convince us to go backwards into chains and slavery to their wicked liberal system. I do not see this as a genuine reflection of European political thought.
You are 100% correct. The globalists wanted the whole world under their thumb, but Donald Trump was the only man with enough courage to resist their evil plan. So now they hate him and hate America.
 

Ezekiel8

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You are 100% correct. The globalists wanted the whole world under their thumb, but Donald Trump was the only man with enough courage to resist their evil plan. So now they hate him and hate America.
I don't think the globalists really want the whole world under their thumb, I think that's just sort of their cover story because you never do see them say we should "diversify" China or say that Saudi Arabia should be "multicultural". Nevertheless that's a whole other big can of worms I suppose lol.

True President Trump goes against their grain pretty hard, and that's why we love him and that's why God appointed him for God does love us in America still because we still love God in America. God Bless America.
 
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As tensions with Trump deepen, Europe wonders if America is lost for good.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/worl...merica-is-lost-for-good/ar-AAxw4Je?li=BBnb7Kz

All the while they are working together to bring the power to Europe, and makes Europe to be the good guy, and America to be the bad guy, and America takes a back seat and joins them, and soon the ten horn kingdom, the world split in to ten sections with a leader in each section.

Key German leaders want to end sanctions against Russia.Such a decision might seem like a minor piece of economic news, but it could be the beginning of a major break between Europe and America and the separation of Germany from the Western security alliance.

Also many are calling for a combined European army.
Sounds like "fake news" to me! LOL! ;)
 

Lafftur

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You are 100% correct. The globalists wanted the whole world under their thumb, but Donald Trump was the only man with enough courage to resist their evil plan. So now they hate him and hate America.
Ya know what I really like about President Donald Trump? No man can tame him! Only God. Love it! Upset the apple cart, go ahead! ;)