Benefitee's told to get a job

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Locutus

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From Wolf News:

Meanwhile, the budget aims to implement new welfare requirements -- namely, that Americans 18-65 years old work at least 20 hours a week in a job, a job training program or a community service program to secure a range of benefits and aid.

According to the administration, the work requirement would apply to federal programs like food stamps, Medicaid, and federal housing, but would come with a hardship exemption. Last year, the administration opened the door for states to impose work requirements for Medicaid recipients. This part of the budget proposal would bring those work requirements to the federal level.

The proposal would represent an expansion of work requirements, though some already are in place. For the past several administrations, able-bodied recipients of the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (food stamps) have mostly had to work at least 80 hours a month -- while recipients of traditional welfare known as Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF) have also faced work requirements.

The budget, meanwhile, projects a $1.1 trillion deficit for the fiscal year beginning Oct. 1, but also calls for deep cuts to domestic programs.

Full belt tightening story:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tr...border-wall-and-work-requirements-for-welfare
 

Locutus

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By Robert Gebelhoff

Assistant editor and Opinions contributor

April 13, 2018

House Republicans have begun to take steps in their long-awaited campaign against the welfare state. Their first move: expanding work requirements for the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, better known as food stamps.

It’s not surprising that this is where Republicans are starting. Over the past decade, conservatives have regularly lamented the surge of participation in SNAP following the 2008 financial crisis. The number of people in the program peaked in 2013 at 47.6 million, the highest ever. For those on the right, the trend symbolized President Barack Obama’s expansion of the welfare “hammock.”

They have a point about these numbers, but it’s only half right. They’re correct to be concerned that participation in the program remains much higher than pre-recession levels. But they’re dead wrong that work requirements are the solution. The problem is not that people in the program aren’t working; it’s that too many people in the program work and still have trouble getting by without government assistance.

Full article:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blog...blicans-get-the-solution-wrong/?noredirect=on

Whatcha gonna do when it's gone?
 

tourist

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The problem is not that people in the program aren’t working; it’s that too many people in the program work and still have trouble getting by without government assistance.
These are called the 'working poor'.
 

SpoonJuly

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So the government is telling everyone who can work (not disabled) to get up off your lazy butt and work, go to school, or volunteer, or go with out.

Sounds good to me. Why should I work for my food and others who CAN work eat on my dollar for free?
 

7seasrekeyed

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So the government is telling everyone who can work (not disabled) to get up off your lazy butt and work, go to school, or volunteer, or go with out.

Sounds good to me. Why should I work for my food and others who CAN work eat on my dollar for free?

well there's that

and all the fraud

fraud is one thing the Trump admin is taking into account when it says it is looking into this

convenient to leave that out of course :rolleyes:
 

SpoonJuly

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Anyone who is able to work but chooses to live off the taxes of working people are nothing more than a thief.
This policy was put in practice in Arkansas last year.
Amazing how many people suddenly found a job so they would not loose their Medicaid and food stamp benefits.
 

Susanna

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The difference between the rich and the poor is increasing in this country. That’s not a good path. I just read that in states like Alabama, Mississippi and Arkansas many people are so poor they can’t pay for medical care, food, electricity or water that is safe to drink. Knowing this the current administration is spending money like drunken sailors on cutting taxes for unbelievably rich people. I have spent a lot of my years in the third world and it looks like the ludicrous politics of the third world has made its way into the US.
 

Locutus

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Resident Trump really sympathizes with the poor:




It won't be a stylish marriage,
I can't afford a carriage.

lol2.gif
 

SpoonJuly

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The difference between the rich and the poor is increasing in this country. That’s not a good path. I just read that in states like Alabama, Mississippi and Arkansas many people are so poor they can’t pay for medical care, food, electricity or water that is safe to drink. Knowing this the current administration is spending money like drunken sailors on cutting taxes for unbelievably rich people. I have spent a lot of my years in the third world and it looks like the ludicrous politics of the third world has made its way into the US.
Let me tell you about Arkansas as a life long resident.
No one goes without medical care. A lady in our church (52 and single) works 36 hours a week at minimum wage (9.25 hr $330 per week).
Her state Medicaid that pays 100% of her medical and drug cost, cost her $13 per month. She gets $186 per month in food stamps and her house and utilities cost her a max of $500 per month.
She lives very well and does not go without any necessities.
There is a lot of false news giver out about the needy.
I sure there are a few exceptions, but the only people in Arkansas who go without are those who bring it on themselves.
 

7seasrekeyed

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The difference between the rich and the poor is increasing in this country. That’s not a good path. I just read that in states like Alabama, Mississippi and Arkansas many people are so poor they can’t pay for medical care, food, electricity or water that is safe to drink. Knowing this the current administration is spending money like drunken sailors on cutting taxes for unbelievably rich people. I have spent a lot of my years in the third world and it looks like the ludicrous politics of the third world has made its way into the US.

do you have an idea about the amount of money being spent on illegals?

it's billions. not millions; billions

now there's money actual Americans could have directed their way if they really needed it

there are always solutions, but when half the gov behaves like kiddies having a tantrum and have done their best to make it seem Trump has cut taxes for the rich and people gobble that lie up, well, things stay the same

when a company moves to another country, they take their wealth with them, avoid taxes and hire cheap labor

when a company is motivated to stay in the US, they hire Americans and pay better wages

I'm not an economist, but having worked for a family owned company, (my family)I've seen that in action. when the company does well, everyone benefits

seems to me that the hatred for the current president is beyond any desire to actually work at improving the border and immigration systems

as a legal immigrant, working and paying taxes for my own little business, I can tell you that success is possible with hard work and determination. my husband also works for himself and does quite well.

when I see these illegals at the border (on the news) or trying to storm the border, bringing in disease, the same attitudes they grew up with in their own country, lying to get in, knowing they will not be sent back even if crossing illegally, and hear about murders being committed by some that have been sent back multiple times, I cannot believe that an entire party will do anything to thwart the President instead of doing anything to protect the country they are supposed to protect

why bother to take an oath? as far as I am concerned, they can just sit their hinnies in those padded seats, chew gum and blow bubbles and hold up a permanent sign that says 'if it's anything from Trump, no matter what, my vote is no'

and how about the dreamers? what happened to them? where is Pelousi's great big concern for them?

I didn't know that many hypocrites could actually be in one place at one time
 

7seasrekeyed

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these people that hate those with money would sure enough love it if the money was sent their way
 

SpoonJuly

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Yes, yes - please send cash.
That is what happends every time you get a paycheck.
If it were not for those with the wealth that build businesses, there would be no jobs.
If a person does not like the pay or working conditions, just move on. Find another job.
 

Locutus

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That is what happends every time you get a paycheck.
If it were not for those with the wealth that build businesses, there would be no jobs.
If a person does not like the pay or working conditions, just move on. Find another job.
You seem to be a very astupe person.
 

SpoonJuly

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You seem to be a very astupe person.
So now you resort to name calling.
You must live a very sad and unfulfilling life,
I have yet to see any of your post with a positive outlook.
Very sad.
 

UnderGrace

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Whatcha gonna do when it's gone?
Did it ever occur to you that the Dems have kept these people, many black, on the welfare plantation.

Do you support repressive policies?



By Robert Gebelhoff

Assistant editor and Opinions contributor

April 13, 2018

House Republicans have begun to take steps in their long-awaited campaign against the welfare state. Their first move: expanding work requirements for the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, better known as food stamps.

It’s not surprising that this is where Republicans are starting. Over the past decade, conservatives have regularly lamented the surge of participation in SNAP following the 2008 financial crisis. The number of people in the program peaked in 2013 at 47.6 million, the highest ever. For those on the right, the trend symbolized President Barack Obama’s expansion of the welfare “hammock.”

They have a point about these numbers, but it’s only half right. They’re correct to be concerned that participation in the program remains much higher than pre-recession levels. But they’re dead wrong that work requirements are the solution. The problem is not that people in the program aren’t working; it’s that too many people in the program work and still have trouble getting by without government assistance.

Full article:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blog...blicans-get-the-solution-wrong/?noredirect=on

Whatcha gonna do when it's gone?
 

Locutus

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Did it ever occur to you that the Dems have kept these people, many black, on the welfare plantation.

Do you support repressive policies?

Which specific policies UG?