Blacks, Christians, Godly must leave the Democrat Party

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Aug 29, 2012
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..... and then join what? i see no difference between either major party in this country. you get a choice of fast socialism or slower socialism. so which is really better? you are going to get a socialist either way.

which is why i avoid politics.....
 
Sep 7, 2012
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Frankly I see socialism as a positive good for society and have no fear of it at all.
There are many types of socialism and while Marxism (a form of socialism) is atheistic, there have been societies of Christian communists in the past and it behooves us to be careful when talking without being more specific. The Christians in Jerusalem (after the crucifixion) had a communistic society there.
 
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Yeah, I would think if you're black you wouldn't be a huge fan of the Democratic party.

TOO MANY ABORTED <--- good site

Unfortunately, the Republicans aren't that much better about addressing the issues left over from previous decades.
 
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TheGrungeDiva

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Well, as long as they don't join the Republican Party, I'll agree with you.

I admit, I am very disappointed in our current president. I had higher hopes for him, and to discover that he's just as bad as any other politician is a little disheartening.

There was a thread recently asking what church Jesus would attend if he were here today. I wonder if he would have anything kind to say of any political party in the US today. Certainly not to either of the 2 major parties, nor to the "Tea Party," all of whom seem to want to claim him without following him.
 
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I listened to what he had to say ,,,, the disclaimer at the start was so funny lol lol ,,,,, to me all this was a rant ,,, just that and nothing much more

you know what i find odd about this election this time round ,,,is all the name calling that going on ,,,never really saw that in USA politics before ,,,if you dont agree with the other party you can call them all the names you want and its from people at the top ,,,,,,,if this goes on the USA nation will be spilt down the middle ,,,its the old **us and them** thing ,,,, just like a school play ground ,,,,i fear for the USA over this issue ,,,,because no matter who wins now it will be all the *others* fault and the harsh words will or could turn to hate and i mean real hate ,,,,,hate has no reason ,,,,and these feelings are being whipped up by people at the top ,,,,so when they lose USA could be in real trouble ,,,,,PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE pray for you nation ,,,and pray for the other party as well even if you wont vote for them pray for them anyway !!!!!! Prayers bring back reason and it kills hate

so from someone not living in the USA ,,,,join me in saying GBU the USA

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Sep 7, 2012
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Actually Jimmy, many of the elections of the 19th century were worse for the name calling as this one, the main difference was that they did not have the visual medium like Television to broadcast their political tripe. The election of 1800 was one of America's earliest and candidates did not even dare to run directly for office back then it was thought to be far too socially forward. Some of the elections of the 1850's and 1860's were horrible given the editorial cartoons were amazing in their insulting and derogatory content.
 
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Actually Jimmy, many of the elections of the 19th century were worse for the name calling as this one, the main difference was that they did not have the visual medium like Television to broadcast their political tripe. The election of 1800 was one of America's earliest and candidates did not even dare to run directly for office back then it was thought to be far too socially forward. Some of the elections of the 1850's and 1860's were horrible given the editorial cartoons were amazing in their insulting and derogatory content.
Thanks, Celeste, for beating me to the punch :)

Every election it's bad, and every election I hear people say, "Gosh, it wasn't this bad last time," and every election I feel I have to remind people, "Hey, were you living under a rock 4 years ago?"
 

Dude653

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this is just a buncha nonsense!!!
 
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violakat

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Sense when has our country been a country of only two political parties? Yes, the Democrats and Republicans have been the major parties, so much so, that the others have a hard time revealing themselves. But, we have always had at least three parties in our country for at least the last 100 years. If you are not aware, we do have the Constitution Party, the Libertarians, and the Green party. There are probably a few others I'm unaware of, but there are at least 5 parties at this time nationwide in our country.
 
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TheGrungeDiva

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Sense when has our country been a country of only two political parties? Yes, the Democrats and Republicans have been the major parties, so much so, that the others have a hard time revealing themselves. But, we have always had at least three parties in our country for at least the last 100 years. If you are not aware, we do have the Constitution Party, the Libertarians, and the Green party. There are probably a few others I'm unaware of, but there are at least 5 parties at this time nationwide in our country.
Don't forget the "grass roots" party :)
 

Nautilus

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Sense when has our country been a country of only two political parties? Yes, the Democrats and Republicans have been the major parties, so much so, that the others have a hard time revealing themselves. But, we have always had at least three parties in our country for at least the last 100 years. If you are not aware, we do have the Constitution Party, the Libertarians, and the Green party. There are probably a few others I'm unaware of, but there are at least 5 parties at this time nationwide in our country.
That may be but when it comes to presidential races only two parties matter
 
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violakat

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That may be but when it comes to presidential races only two parties matter
That's because we have been trained to think that way. Not to mention that the other parties tend not to have all the money that the Republicans and Democrats have. If the independents really wanted to, they could strike fear into both the Democrats and Republicans, by voting for a third party.

Don't forget the "grass roots" party :)
I knew there was one missing.
 
Sep 7, 2012
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In congress the two party system is the way the committee assignments are given out and someone from a third party is unlikely to get any committee chairs much less actually have much to say about how congress was run on a daily basis. Its a lonely existence for one of the few non republican/democratic members.
 
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TheGrungeDiva

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That's because we have been trained to think that way. Not to mention that the other parties tend not to have all the money that the Republicans and Democrats have. If the independents really wanted to, they could strike fear into both the Democrats and Republicans, by voting for a third party.
When a 3rd party runs for president, the outcome is that it splits the vote of its end of the spectrum.

Ross Perot was relatively conservative. When he ran, it split the Republican vote, and the Democrat won.

Ralph Nader was relatively liberal. When he ran, it split the Democratic vote, and the Republican won.

Whether or not this is "fair" or "wise" or "the way it should be," this is the way it IS. You can cry and moan and hold your breath until you're blue in the face, that's not going to stop it from being true.

Simply having additional parties is not enough to break the practical 2-party system that exists in this country. We need a total upheaval, and I honestly don't know what it would take to undo what has been done. I think both current parties (D and R) need to go away, and the electoral college needs to go away.

3rd parties occasionally win in congress. Perhaps having a president elected or selected from among the congressional leaders would be one solution.
 
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violakat

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When a 3rd party runs for president, the outcome is that it splits the vote of its end of the spectrum.

Ross Perot was relatively conservative. When he ran, it split the Republican vote, and the Democrat won.

Ralph Nader was relatively liberal. When he ran, it split the Democratic vote, and the Republican won.

Whether or not this is "fair" or "wise" or "the way it should be," this is the way it IS. You can cry and moan and hold your breath until you're blue in the face, that's not going to stop it from being true.

Simply having additional parties is not enough to break the practical 2-party system that exists in this country. We need a total upheaval, and I honestly don't know what it would take to undo what has been done. I think both current parties (D and R) need to go away, and the electoral college needs to go away.

3rd parties occasionally win in congress. Perhaps having a president elected or selected from among the congressional leaders would be one solution.
To be honest, I think the only way real change would come is to remove the party and vote for individuals alone, including the VP. Each candidate would be required to stand on their own merits and not a party's. But, that might require a total reconstruction in other areas as well. And even then, it still might not work, as people still would band together, thus maybe creating new parties.
 
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Cecillia504

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Amen! I agree with this poster 100%. I don't like the Democratic party evil views. I am "Black" and disgusted by the way Democrats always bring up race in EVERYTHING!! Why can't I be treated like a normal American by these people? NO - I dont need help getting a job, I don't need handouts and I REALLY don't need any assistance getting into school because of my skin color!

Democrats try to keep us Americas separated, and Obama is doing a bang up job with the lies....why can't people work for what they earn, keep what they earn, and help those in needs?! Because we took God out of this nation. That's why. :l