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jsr1221

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Jul 7, 2013
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#21
God and I are bemused
Chlorine gas, etc, is indiscriminate and kills women and children
not only rebel fighters therefore using chemical agents as weapons
is monstrous; evil; barbaric.
A red line has been crossed over.

And yet in the U.S.A. (and the U.K. and France)
killing unborn children is OK.
Mothers and doctors killing by abortion human babies.
All three societies claiming to be civilized and responsible.

How many millions of children have been denied life since the
Supreme Court ruled that it was constitutionally legal to kill babies?
Why is this not monstrous and evil? A red line that has
been crossed !!

Hypocrisy is the hallmark of human worldly politics.
God and you? Are you His righthand man? The messenger boy? That doesn't sound egotistical or anything.
 

Nehemiah6

Senior Member
Jul 18, 2017
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#22
US and UK just bombed Syria
Since these were PRECISION strikes, please maintain precision.

It was not Syria as such which was bombed, but specific targets in Syria related to the manufacture of chemicals and chemical weapons. And there is not expected to be any further involvement.
 

Nehemiah6

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Jul 18, 2017
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#23
How many millions of children have been denied life since the Supreme Court ruled that it was constitutionally legal to kill babies?
In all fairness, the headquarters of Planned Parenthood should now be targeted, and that half-billion dollars which was recently earmarked for them should be allocated to building that wall (which never seems to get off the ground).
 

Waggles

Senior Member
Sep 21, 2017
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adelaiderevival.com
#24
I am trying to approach understanding politics and war
as a Christian, and not a one eyed barracker.

The thing about politics is very much do as we say not as
we do.

So our side assassinates people we don't want in power, or
ferments a coup d'état, or funds, trains and supplies insurgents,
or engages in ongoing wars - then that is for a noble cause: invariably
for peace, democracy, freedom, future happiness and economic prosperity.
That worked out well in Libya and Iraq.

But when the other side does similar [Crimea for example] then of course
that is monstrously evil and undemocratic, blah, blah, blah ...

As Christians we can observe the world around us and the growing
whirlpool that is Assyria and Israel sucking in more and more armed
conflict and nations - but it behoves us to have wisdom and to understand
that before God the whole world is un-Godly and wicked.

Only we who believe and live the gospel are separate from the world and
have hope that we shall escape the wrath and judgment that is coming.
Let us not be naïve about wars and geo-politics; for all of this is the
outcome of our sin nature.

2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so comes
as a thief in the night.
3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction comes
upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you
as a thief.
1Thessalonians 5:


 
Dec 9, 2011
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#25
God and I are bemused
Chlorine gas, etc, is indiscriminate and kills women and children
not only rebel fighters therefore using chemical agents as weapons
is monstrous; evil; barbaric.
A red line has been crossed over.

And yet in the U.S.A. (and the U.K. and France)
killing unborn children is OK.
Mothers and doctors killing by abortion human babies.
All three societies claiming to be civilized and responsible.

How many millions of children have been denied life since the
Supreme Court ruled that it was constitutionally legal to kill babies?
Why is this not monstrous and evil? A red line that has
been crossed !!

Hypocrisy is the hallmark of human worldly politics.
Murder Is Intentional but killing might not be Intentional.
 

Lafftur

Senior Member
Apr 18, 2017
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#27
Like I posted before hypocrisy is the hallmark of human politics

And God does not take sides for all are evil before him.
Hey Waggles, while reading your post it reminded me of Joshua's encounter. I know whose side I'm on!

[h=1]Joshua 5:13, 14 (NIV)[/h][h=3]The Commander of the Army of the Lord[/h][FONT=&quot]13 Now when Joshua was near Jericho, he looked up and saw a man standing in front of him with a drawn sword in his hand. Joshua went up to him and asked, “Are you for us or for our enemies?”[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot][/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]14 “Neither,” he replied, “but as commander of the army of the Lord I have now come.” Then Joshua fell face down to the ground in reverence, and asked him, “What message does my Lord have for his servant?”

When all these countries, including my own country, war against each other, the side I choose is The Lord's. [/FONT]
 

Miri

Senior Member
Jul 22, 2012
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#28
We all know everything is going downhill and very few countries have God’s people in
leadership. Even where some politicians are born again Christians they are not in
a position to have a major say in what happens. There are board member, advisors,
militory, other politicians, cabinet officials etc.

The best we can hope for is the non Christian governments with ulterior motives, who at least
don’t go around bombing, nuking and gasing people just because they like it and get a
kick out of it. Can at least try to keep those who do like it, in check for a season.

Seasons is really what we are talking about here, it happened in the bible and then
just at the right time - Jesus came into the world.

Its happening again, wars, rumours of wars. The best we can expect is the checks
and balances of world powers, until just at the right time, Jesus will return again.

In the meantime we watch, wait, pray and discuss.