Brexit - Do we stay or do we go

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Angela53510

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It's getting to the point where I can't go on FB. Just article after article on why the British are wrong, and how to find unique and sneaky ways to stay in the EU.

Apparently Cameron failing to invoke Article 50 is going to have huge repercussions on the whole exit. But those of you in England can correct me if I am wrong. Because the same people who voted in a globalist, Liberal Trudeau, are the same people who seem to think that the EU is the best thing since sliced bread.

I never thought I would be this embarrassed by Canada!
 
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It's getting to the point where I can't go on FB. Just article after article on why the British are wrong, and how to find unique and sneaky ways to stay in the EU.

Apparently Cameron failing to invoke Article 50 is going to have huge repercussions on the whole exit. But those of you in England can correct me if I am wrong. Because the same people who voted in a globalist, Liberal Trudeau, are the same people who seem to think that the EU is the best thing since sliced bread.

I never thought I would be this embarrassed by Canada!


It has massive implications world wide, it is the biggest global upheaval since the
world wars. Many countries have under estimated the impact of the Brexit both in
respect of the economical, political and power distribution of the globe.

More importantly for the Christian it has massive implications for bible prophesy
and a step closer to Christ's return. You really can see the potential it has for playing out
of the bible prophecy.

And it's all because one country has the guts to say enough is enough. Were not even a big
country, just a large island! In fact war would have had less impact. Wars happen all the time
people expect them now. But this, no one expected.
 
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Miri

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First this was not a member of EU parliament ..he was the head of the anti-fraud office ... Did you even bother to read the article?
The European Commission has waited more than a year to decide whether to allow Belgian prosecutors to question the EU's top anti-fraud official over allegations he broke the law.

Mitspa you really confused me with your avatar :D
 
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Miri

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Whether or not any other member states may now leave I don't know.
But just suppose for a moment that France left, that would leave Germany in
charge of a number of less influencial countries including the Eastern block
and Turkey.

It's not beyond possibility that France will leave many, people there
have been calling for their own referendum.

I mentioned it earlier that I know a lot of born again
Christians and prior to the results, everyone of them was going to vote leave.
In fact the break down of voters showed 58% of the leave camp
them identified themselves as Christian. Although this would have included real and
imitation Christians.

I really do think the leave vote was part of God's plan and purposes.
People are just thinking about their own agenda in all of this but God has his agenda.

I know many are saying the leave people have made a big mistake, the economy will
crash the sky will fall in. I don't know what will happen but I just feel the leave vote was
still right even if the economy does crash.

The EU is turning into a massive nanny state, maybe it's a little dramatic but it is a
modern day Tower of Babel. I think I understand now why God intervened during
the building of the Tower, if He hadn't then end times might have come before
the world had even started.
 

Desdichado

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I'd personally like to know how you think Brexit plays in to Biblical prophecy. I don't see it.
 

Desdichado

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Desdichado

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That said, having the world's 4th greatest military power out of the mix must really be a crimp in those plans for a vast army.
 

JimmieD

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I'd personally like to know how you think Brexit plays in to Biblical prophecy. I don't see it.
Ha ha! Remember when people like Hal Lindsey said that the EU was the "Revived Roman Empire?" I'm sure there will be something else now to fill the void. There always is. People will find some other way to insist that THIS is a real sign. Until it isn't.

Rinse. Lather. Repeat.
 
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MadParrotWoman

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Miri, your posts are very insightful, thank you for bringing them to this forum. I very much enjoy reading them and they cause me to look deeper into things than I would ordinarily. :)

Mitspa, I love you avatar! Your comments are pretty cool also.
 

Desdichado

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Miri, your posts are very insightful, thank you for bringing them to this forum. I very much enjoy reading them and they cause me to look deeper into things than I would ordinarily. :)

Mitspa, I love you avatar! Your comments are pretty cool also.
I see Mitspa's avatar and I raise you the great guarantor of British independence, Lord Horatio Nelson. :p
 
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That said, having the world's 4th greatest military power out of the mix must really be a crimp in those plans for a vast army.

No, if anything there is no one to stop them or make them think twice.

The UK was the restraining hand and the voice of reason.

France was the country that just was obnoxious towards the Brits and sneered at our funny
ways and "obstickles" we put in the way. Whatever way the UK went, the French politicians
just seemed to what to do the opposite. I think they are just fed up with the migrant Calais
crises even though they signed up and agreed to hold the migrants on their turf. This was a
separate deal between the UK and France and not a mandate from the EU.

Germany is the power which keeps everything moving at break neck speed. Now with no UK
to put the breaks on, just stand back and watch the snowball effect now. You think things
moved quick before, you haven't seen anything yet.

Poland always respected and sided with the U.K but they are not brave enough to take
on the UK "restraining hand" position.

The other countries grumble and rumble on but pretty much do as they are told. At least pre
Brexit. Maybe they will start to look more closely at what is happening.

People are saying the Brexit will trigger other countries to leave the EU and the EU will
break up. That is not the case, with every country that leaves, Germany will gain more
power. The Eastern block and poorer countries especially will not leave as they get the most
from the EU.

Germany in trying to avoid past mistakes, the holacaust etc, and is opening the borders to
everyone and anyone as a result - a big mistake.


There is still the possibility of Turkey joining the EU, despite its
deplorable human rights record and mistreatment of woman. There is no way Turkey
could ever meet the EU human rights act, but as the migrants are steaming across Turkey
the EU is making financial deals with them. Turkey still has a long way to go but it will be
interesting to see if the EU relaxes some of its standards for Turkey due to the migrant
problem from Syria.

Let in Turkey, and by default you open the doors to all the countries in that neck of the
woods including Syria, Iran, Iraq, Isreal etc. In other words Turkey opens up the
border to the Middle East. How will Turkey manage their borders?

All people would have to do is cross into Turkey get a Turkish passport then they would be
free to travel across all EU member states unrestricted. You think terrorism is bad now, wait
and see if Turkey makes it into the EU, it may be a couple of years yet. But as the EU is
already paying them lots of cash , I think it will happen eventually.

PS it looks like Cameron wanted Turkey to join, along with Germany, they obviously
considered this was a solution to the migrant crises. Ie let them all stay in Turkey and pay
them billions of EU money to police the migrants and control the border.

Ps the second link is just for the map, ignore the bit about prehistoric cave men lol :D

By the way I'm no expert on this, it's just that I did a lot of home work before voting.
I wanted to make a reasoned decision when I voted, but if anyone has a different
angle or I have got any of this wrong, then I would gladly be corrected.

The EU's embrace of Turkey could drive Britain out - Telegraph


Europe Map / Map of Europe - Facts, Geography, History of Europe - Worldatlas.com
 

crossnote

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Hear ye, hear ye...

[video=youtube;MlN9o3g-yuA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlN9o3g-yuA[/video]
 
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Hear ye, hear ye...

[video=youtube;MlN9o3g-yuA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlN9o3g-yuA[/video]
They don't look happy do they. Lol
Especially when he said you have never done a proper job in your lives!

Cant work out where the clapping is coming from, do you think it's just "made for TV
sound effects" lol

They should turn that into a comedy. :D
 
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MadParrotWoman

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Hear ye, hear ye...

[video=youtube;MlN9o3g-yuA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlN9o3g-yuA[/video]
I heard this live on the radio this morning - I almost peed myself laughing, very funny straight talking even if the bit about them needing us more than the other way around was a little far fetched! If only all politicians straight talked like this! Seriously I would never have the cheek to talk this way in the presence of so many enemies.
 
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MadParrotWoman

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They don't look happy do they. Lol
Especially when he said you have never done a proper job in your lives!

Cant work out where the clapping is coming from, do you think it's just "made for TV
sound effects" lol


They should turn that into a comedy. :D
Yes there were some people clapping, it was on the news this evening. They don't all want to be there!