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China had a trade agreement with America in January to purchase mass amounts of crops from them as part of Phase 1, so they can stockpile on food amid the coronavirus crisis, for they only have 11 percent of their land that can be used to grow crops, and they have a lot of people to feed.

And China trying to buy American farms, and the food supply.

And America sending Biegun 17.8 tons of medical supplies to them including masks, gowns, and other protective gear.

Even though they were warned of the coronavirus, and sending equipment when there were cases of the coronavirus in America, and WHO said that there is a shortage of medical supplies.

And Vice President Pence said America stands ready to work with China to provide them any and all support.

I do not understand America for people in America lack, and they want to help China during the coronavirus, and said the poor will suffer most during this time all the while giving food to China, and that we have a short supply of medical equipment but sending China medical equipment, and saying they will help China with any and all support.

It seems like they are helping China more than America.

And America allowing Mexicans to run in to America and then dealing with them in a nice manner.

And holding back in war instead of getting the job done, and wasting lives, and money.

And outsourcing jobs when America needs jobs.

And foreigners can open a business and not pay taxes for 7 years although they can make as much money, and even more money, than Americans that have businesses and pay taxes, although the economy is the same for both.

And sometimes jobs can go to the minority instead of who is best qualified for the job, although all people are trying to make a living.

And allowing China to buy up American companies, and other things.

Among other things.

It is obvious that the American government cares about helping the world, for they want the nations to come together, which that is all a deceitful plan that God does not approve of it for it will cause the world to rebel against God.

And America helps the world for they want the other nations to do the same for they want the nations to come together, which Trump said the nations need to step it up and work for peace in the world.

The American government never cared for it's people, but they only cared about the world coming together, and if they have to collapse, and allow China to buy up everything, they do not care, for they have a bigger plan than America.

But on the positive side many people prospered in the nation, and the world, with having their needs met, and beyond that.

But on the negative side the world is going to rebel against God, for America is the key why the beast kingdom came about, for she showed the world that all people can get along despite their differences, and are equal, and helped the world, where in the past, and even now, the nations exalt themselves above each other, basically caring about their own people.

The nation we thought was the greatest nation of all is the worse nation in the history of mankind, which America brought back the Babylonian spirit, which they acknowledged the God of Israel, but then blew it and became known as the kingdom of man.

And America acknowledges the God of Israel but they will blow it too, and the beast kingdom is Babylon in spirit, for it is the kingdom of man with no revelation of God.

No nation can rule unless God allows it, and God has to end this sin business on earth one day, and allow all people that do not love Him to follow the beast kingdom so He can put them down.

So it seems as if the purpose of America is to start the separation between those that love God, and those who do not love God.

For those that love God the Gospel is preached in the nation without persecution, and preached in the world.

And for those who do not love God there is worldliness, and fleshy pleasures, and sin, and exalting themselves.

But eventually the world will stop the preaching of the Gospel and rebel against God, but the Gospel reached the whole world to benefit those who love God, which the Bible said the Gospel shall be preached in to all the world, as a witness to all nations then comes the end.
 

bojack

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George Washington won an impossible war to win without God and miraculous events .. I say Jesus blessed us and raised up America to be the superpower on earth to help midwife Israel May 14 1948 ..
George Washington chose Deuteronomy opened to chapter 28 to place his hand on to take the oath to the office of President .. God has blessed America in spite of all our faults to be the greatest nation and superpower on earth and the last 35 yrs our politicians have become Esau .. We have the greatest consumer market on earth .. We are made up of all nationalities and cultures on earth that wanted to be American and fit in .. China and the CCP are godless .. Without the US consumer market and Gods blessing ''it's over'' .. We come close but like Yogi Berra said ''it ain't over til it's over''
 

chanchuinchoy

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China had a trade agreement with America in January to purchase mass amounts of crops from them as part of Phase 1, so they can stockpile on food amid the coronavirus crisis, for they only have 11 percent of their land that can be used to grow crops, and they have a lot of people to feed.

And China trying to buy American farms, and the food supply.

And America sending Biegun 17.8 tons of medical supplies to them including masks, gowns, and other protective gear.

Even though they were warned of the coronavirus, and sending equipment when there were cases of the coronavirus in America, and WHO said that there is a shortage of medical supplies.

And Vice President Pence said America stands ready to work with China to provide them any and all support.

I do not understand America for people in America lack, and they want to help China during the coronavirus, and said the poor will suffer most during this time all the while giving food to China, and that we have a short supply of medical equipment but sending China medical equipment, and saying they will help China with any and all support.

It seems like they are helping China more than America.

And America allowing Mexicans to run in to America and then dealing with them in a nice manner.

And holding back in war instead of getting the job done, and wasting lives, and money.

And outsourcing jobs when America needs jobs.

And foreigners can open a business and not pay taxes for 7 years although they can make as much money, and even more money, than Americans that have businesses and pay taxes, although the economy is the same for both.

And sometimes jobs can go to the minority instead of who is best qualified for the job, although all people are trying to make a living.

And allowing China to buy up American companies, and other things.

Among other things.

It is obvious that the American government cares about helping the world, for they want the nations to come together, which that is all a deceitful plan that God does not approve of it for it will cause the world to rebel against God.

And America helps the world for they want the other nations to do the same for they want the nations to come together, which Trump said the nations need to step it up and work for peace in the world.

The American government never cared for it's people, but they only cared about the world coming together, and if they have to collapse, and allow China to buy up everything, they do not care, for they have a bigger plan than America.

But on the positive side many people prospered in the nation, and the world, with having their needs met, and beyond that.

But on the negative side the world is going to rebel against God, for America is the key why the beast kingdom came about, for she showed the world that all people can get along despite their differences, and are equal, and helped the world, where in the past, and even now, the nations exalt themselves above each other, basically caring about their own people.

The nation we thought was the greatest nation of all is the worse nation in the history of mankind, which America brought back the Babylonian spirit, which they acknowledged the God of Israel, but then blew it and became known as the kingdom of man.

And America acknowledges the God of Israel but they will blow it too, and the beast kingdom is Babylon in spirit, for it is the kingdom of man with no revelation of God.

No nation can rule unless God allows it, and God has to end this sin business on earth one day, and allow all people that do not love Him to follow the beast kingdom so He can put them down.

So it seems as if the purpose of America is to start the separation between those that love God, and those who do not love God.

For those that love God the Gospel is preached in the nation without persecution, and preached in the world.

And for those who do not love God there is worldliness, and fleshy pleasures, and sin, and exalting themselves.

But eventually the world will stop the preaching of the Gospel and rebel against God, but the Gospel reached the whole world to benefit those who love God, which the Bible said the Gospel shall be preached in to all the world, as a witness to all nations then comes the end.
Firstly, our heavenly father loves not only the Christians but no-Christians as well. His blessings are shown in Christian world and non-christian world as well.

Secondly, the covid19 pandemic that resulting in loss of tens thousand lives, does not comes from china, it comes from usa, your dear mr. president, who responded oh it is just flue like symtoms we can handle it when informed about this pandemic initially.
 
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And outsourcing jobs when America needs jobs.
There are plenty of jobs in nursing homes, amazon is hiring 75,000 people. Walmart is hiring 50,000 more people. If they need jobs then they should go to work. Things are changing and they may need to adjust to a different job from what they were doing. But that is just a part of life to make those adjustments. If they are not going to work then they need to go to school to develop skills so that people will want to hire them. To sit down and do nothing and expect the people that are working to give you their money is nonsense. People need to learn how to be productive members of society and it is the job of the schools to prepare them for that. It does not look like the public school system is getting the job done.
 
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Secondly, the covid19 pandemic that resulting in loss of tens thousand lives, does not comes from china, it comes from usa,
The research was done in the Wuhan Virology Institute. The money to pay for it came from the United States tax payers. Congress, the Senate & the President put their signature on that money. The NIH had a budget of something like $42 billion dollars. Frances Collins is the director and he approved the funding. You can even find quotes here and there on the internet on why he did what he did and what he was thinking. There are photos on the internet of the science going into the caves to bring that virus out to the world.
 

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Nehemiah6

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China had a trade agreement with America in January to purchase mass amounts of crops from them as part of Phase 1, so they can stockpile on food amid the coronavirus crisis, for they only have 11 percent of their land that can be used to grow crops, and they have a lot of people to feed.

And China trying to buy American farms, and the food supply.
You have hit the nail on the head. While China declared war on America and the west about 70 years ago (when Mao took over) not a single American politician or president took that seriously and devised a comprehensive plan to defend the USA against economic, scientific, and cyber-warfare. China did not need to send a single soldier into the USA. They saw how stupid American politicians are when it comes to protecting their own country, and they took advantage of this at every opportunity. So today, China has won the war and America, Canada, and the West have lost. China has driven the West into bankruptcy.

American politicians stood by and did absolutely nothing to protect the industries and jobs in the USA against Chinese takeover for decades. And the apathetic voters continued to send the same rascals back to Washington and the state legislatures. They did nothing to stop China from infiltrating North America with students, businessmen, agents, scientists, etc. who were all under the control of the Communist rulers. They did nothing to ensure that Chinese would not have access to military secrets by a proper cyber-warfare division, even when they knew that China has a dedicated cyber-warfare divisions. And finally the US government literally paid for bio-warfare research in China, with Dr. Fauci fully involved.

And even after this pandemic created by China, the administration has simply not done enough to stop Chinese sabotage, and to charge the Democrats and the media with sedition and treason for promoting Chinese propaganda and waging war on America internally.

Right now, President Trump should have put Military Intelligence in charge of investigating the whole coronavirus conspiracy. Not the CIA, DOJ, or FBI, who are committed to destroying him and his presidency. Gates, Soros, CDC, NIH, WHO, Fauci, Birx, etc. should all be under investigation. But Mr. Trump has done nothing. He also allowed the bogus Mueller Witch Hunt to distract America for three years, and waste millions or billions of dollars, and after that McConnell allowed the Democrats to go ahead with their Impeachment Hoax and waste billions of dollars, instead of stopping all that nonsense in its tracks.
 
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China had a trade agreement with America in January to purchase mass amounts of crops from them as part of Phase 1, so they can stockpile on food amid the coronavirus crisis, for they only have 11 percent of their land that can be used to grow crops, and they have a lot of people to feed.

And China trying to buy American farms, and the food supply.

And America sending Biegun 17.8 tons of medical supplies to them including masks, gowns, and other protective gear.

Even though they were warned of the coronavirus, and sending equipment when there were cases of the coronavirus in America, and WHO said that there is a shortage of medical supplies.

And Vice President Pence said America stands ready to work with China to provide them any and all support.

I do not understand America for people in America lack, and they want to help China during the coronavirus, and said the poor will suffer most during this time all the while giving food to China, and that we have a short supply of medical equipment but sending China medical equipment, and saying they will help China with any and all support.

It seems like they are helping China more than America.

And America allowing Mexicans to run in to America and then dealing with them in a nice manner.

And holding back in war instead of getting the job done, and wasting lives, and money.

And outsourcing jobs when America needs jobs.

And foreigners can open a business and not pay taxes for 7 years although they can make as much money, and even more money, than Americans that have businesses and pay taxes, although the economy is the same for both.

And sometimes jobs can go to the minority instead of who is best qualified for the job, although all people are trying to make a living.

And allowing China to buy up American companies, and other things.

Among other things.

It is obvious that the American government cares about helping the world, for they want the nations to come together, which that is all a deceitful plan that God does not approve of it for it will cause the world to rebel against God.

And America helps the world for they want the other nations to do the same for they want the nations to come together, which Trump said the nations need to step it up and work for peace in the world.

The American government never cared for it's people, but they only cared about the world coming together, and if they have to collapse, and allow China to buy up everything, they do not care, for they have a bigger plan than America.

But on the positive side many people prospered in the nation, and the world, with having their needs met, and beyond that.

But on the negative side the world is going to rebel against God, for America is the key why the beast kingdom came about, for she showed the world that all people can get along despite their differences, and are equal, and helped the world, where in the past, and even now, the nations exalt themselves above each other, basically caring about their own people.

The nation we thought was the greatest nation of all is the worse nation in the history of mankind, which America brought back the Babylonian spirit, which they acknowledged the God of Israel, but then blew it and became known as the kingdom of man.

And America acknowledges the God of Israel but they will blow it too, and the beast kingdom is Babylon in spirit, for it is the kingdom of man with no revelation of God.

No nation can rule unless God allows it, and God has to end this sin business on earth one day, and allow all people that do not love Him to follow the beast kingdom so He can put them down.

So it seems as if the purpose of America is to start the separation between those that love God, and those who do not love God.

For those that love God the Gospel is preached in the nation without persecution, and preached in the world.

And for those who do not love God there is worldliness, and fleshy pleasures, and sin, and exalting themselves.

But eventually the world will stop the preaching of the Gospel and rebel against God, but the Gospel reached the whole world to benefit those who love God, which the Bible said the Gospel shall be preached in to all the world, as a witness to all nations then comes the end.
Do you find it at all interesting that as Christianity grows in China and becomes lukewarm in the Americas that His blessing shifts. The satanic lifestyle celebrated, with sexual expression and love thyself and forget the rest has taken its toll. This all must come to pass. It is all expected. The luxury that we have enjoyed for decades has been purchased on credit. Our children have become lazy and entitled. Even raising competitive athletes and scholars, I see they only have to be better than their slacking peers. When a generation of foreigners having to compete with millions for sustenance while our children amass landfills with their excess, they will be left in the dust. It’s a simple process devised by God Himself, survival of the fittest. Nations rise, nations fall. That is a very good reason to live for the Lord, whose Kingdom with stand eternal.
 

bojack

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Firstly, our heavenly father loves not only the Christians but no-Christians as well. His blessings are shown in Christian world and non-christian world as well.

Secondly, the covid19 pandemic that resulting in loss of tens thousand lives, does not comes from china, it comes from usa, your dear mr. president, who responded oh it is just flue like symtoms we can handle it when informed about this pandemic initially.
Yes from Dr Fauci .. He was getting it done against the law ''it's against US law to create biological warfare'' and Fauci was in charge .. So he paid China to take it over , this was during Obama .. In the US Trump has to work slow due to Fake News but Fauci is being investigated again .. The coronavirus infection has the same symptoms as 5G Radiation in the lungs and all flue vaccines will show up as coronavirus exposed the way I understand .. Fauci was under investigation in 2014 then FBI head James Comey dropped the investigation .. Fauci is on bill gates board for years and he is a liar , murderer and thief .. They can ramp up or target 5G and birds fall dead out of the sky .. 5G can also crack cells to let dormant for years coronavirus into the cells .. That's the way I understand it
 
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You have hit the nail on the head. While China declared war on America and the west about 70 years ago (when Mao took over) not a single American politician or president took that seriously and devised a comprehensive plan to defend the USA against economic, scientific, and cyber-warfare. China did not need to send a single soldier into the USA. They saw how stupid American politicians are when it comes to protecting their own country, and they took advantage of this at every opportunity. So today, China has won the war and America, Canada, and the West have lost. China has driven the West into bankruptcy.

American politicians stood by and did absolutely nothing to protect the industries and jobs in the USA against Chinese takeover for decades. And the apathetic voters continued to send the same rascals back to Washington and the state legislatures. They did nothing to stop China from infiltrating North America with students, businessmen, agents, scientists, etc. who were all under the control of the Communist rulers. They did nothing to ensure that Chinese would not have access to military secrets by a proper cyber-warfare division, even when they knew that China has a dedicated cyber-warfare divisions. And finally the US government literally paid for bio-warfare research in China, with Dr. Fauci fully involved.

And even after this pandemic created by China, the administration has simply not done enough to stop Chinese sabotage, and to charge the Democrats and the media with sedition and treason for promoting Chinese propaganda and waging war on America internally.

Right now, President Trump should have put Military Intelligence in charge of investigating the whole coronavirus conspiracy. Not the CIA, DOJ, or FBI, who are committed to destroying him and his presidency. Gates, Soros, CDC, NIH, WHO, Fauci, Birx, etc. should all be under investigation. But Mr. Trump has done nothing. He also allowed the bogus Mueller Witch Hunt to distract America for three years, and waste millions or billions of dollars, and after that McConnell allowed the Democrats to go ahead with their Impeachment Hoax and waste billions of dollars, instead of stopping all that nonsense in its tracks.
The government isn’t run by Trump. It’s run by the banks. The banks are run by luciferians. There’s nothing wasted spending billions of dollars. It’s all Monopoly money. Nothing backs it. It’s paper. People putting trust in paper, instead of knowledge and technology is what the big problem is. Because nobody wants to be the best, the smartest, the strongest and superior, they suffer. Since a large bank account has sufficed for power, we are left with its pseudo strength. If the economy crashes, who has the power? The true alphas. Those who can survive with or without. Those who haven’t gotten softer than their silk sheets. We have all bought the lie that we are the greatest but never validated the claim. The truth is that few are great, and the rest are insignificant from a productive perspective. China has created the software our children waste countless hours playing with. When our students couldn’t make the grade, we lowered the bar so their feelings wouldn’t get hurt if they failed. It’s not Trump’s fault. He’s just a puppet. Possibly more of a distraction. While everyone is looking at what this “leader of the free world” is going to say, more backroom deals are going on in secret. There is no east and west or north and south. There is only those who have the power vs the rest of us who don’t. The leaders don’t hate eachother. It’s an illusion. They keep conflict between the countries so we all don’t rise up against them. Once you truly understand that the world is run by a narcissistic group of sociopaths, who control everything because they invented money, the easier it is to accept everything. The only interest they serve is theirs.
 

bojack

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The government isn’t run by Trump. It’s run by the banks. The banks are run by luciferians. There’s nothing wasted spending billions of dollars. It’s all Monopoly money. Nothing backs it. It’s paper. People putting trust in paper, instead of knowledge and technology is what the big problem is. Because nobody wants to be the best, the smartest, the strongest and superior, they suffer. Since a large bank account has sufficed for power, we are left with its pseudo strength. If the economy crashes, who has the power? The true alphas. Those who can survive with or without. Those who haven’t gotten softer than their silk sheets. We have all bought the lie that we are the greatest but never validated the claim. The truth is that few are great, and the rest are insignificant from a productive perspective. China has created the software our children waste countless hours playing with. When our students couldn’t make the grade, we lowered the bar so their feelings wouldn’t get hurt if they failed. It’s not Trump’s fault. He’s just a puppet. Possibly more of a distraction. While everyone is looking at what this “leader of the free world” is going to say, more backroom deals are going on in secret. There is no east and west or north and south. There is only those who have the power vs the rest of us who don’t. The leaders don’t hate eachother. It’s an illusion. They keep conflict between the countries so we all don’t rise up against them. Once you truly understand that the world is run by a narcissistic group of sociopaths, who control everything because they invented money, the easier it is to accept everything. The only interest they serve is theirs.
I don't agree that Trump is a puppet .. I don't think I am and I doubt you are .. I agree about the central banks ''the fed'' but I think they are losing the battle .. Trump imo has taken on JFKs fight against the fed but much more prepared and backed with real muscle ..
.. If I were Trump I would have already rounded up about 100,000 thousand of them and probably been taken out the first day ..
I still believe Jesus called Trump for this job as strong as the first day he announced and that things are on schedule in time ..
Millions disagree right now but Millions do agree and getting stronger .. One thing has changed my mind is before I didn't think the world had gone this far lost .. Now, I don't even care to live in a world that's been exposed this much and so lost , it will get worse soon enough but not today .. And I still have a peace about it all that I recognize .. God Bless
 
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I don't agree that Trump is a puppet .. I don't think I am and I doubt you are .. I agree about the central banks ''the fed'' but I think they are losing the battle .. Trump imo has taken on JFKs fight against the fed but much more prepared and backed with real muscle ..
.. If I were Trump I would have already rounded up about 100,000 thousand of them and probably been taken out the first day ..
I still believe Jesus called Trump for this job as strong as the first day he announced and that things are on schedule in time ..
Millions disagree right now but Millions do agree and getting stronger .. One thing has changed my mind is before I didn't think the world had gone this far lost .. Now, I don't even care to live in a world that's been exposed this much and so lost , it will get worse soon enough but not today .. And I still have a peace about it all that I recognize .. God Bless
Do you think God is for America? America is anti-Christian. Although they tolerate Christianity, they are slowly squeezing the message out. Within my lifetime I have seen rapid deterioration. Once all stores were closed on Sundays. Popeye the cartoon was removed from television because Olivoyle was an unwed mother. Even then the Luciferians were making their subtle movements. Day by day they have masterfully brainwashed society into declaring what is wrong as right and what is right as intolerant. Our youth have been exposed to unspeakable horrors and depravity via the Internet. Before we can even understand intelligently the roles of men and women, they’ve already been indoctrinated to believe that gender stereotyping is evil. They have successfully psychologically castrated our boys. Every show depicts the dad as some bumbling overweight idiot with an attractive wife who has to keep it all together while the kids demonstrate that lying and disobedience are what’s required to save the day. No wonder America is in decline with these as our role models. We’ve been under attack for centuries. It’s not foreign enemies that need to be feared. It is those we think that are our protectors. We are mindless cattle to them. They serve themselves.
 

bojack

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Do you think God is for America? America is anti-Christian. Although they tolerate Christianity, they are slowly squeezing the message out. Within my lifetime I have seen rapid deterioration. Once all stores were closed on Sundays. Popeye the cartoon was removed from television because Olivoyle was an unwed mother. Even then the Luciferians were making their subtle movements. Day by day they have masterfully brainwashed society into declaring what is wrong as right and what is right as intolerant. Our youth have been exposed to unspeakable horrors and depravity via the Internet. Before we can even understand intelligently the roles of men and women, they’ve already been indoctrinated to believe that gender stereotyping is evil. They have successfully psychologically castrated our boys. Every show depicts the dad as some bumbling overweight idiot with an attractive wife who has to keep it all together while the kids demonstrate that lying and disobedience are what’s required to save the day. No wonder America is in decline with these as our role models. We’ve been under attack for centuries. It’s not foreign enemies that need to be feared. It is those we think that are our protectors. We are mindless cattle to them. They serve themselves.
You haven't said anything I haven't said except I think God is for America .. I have and many others have been paying for 40 yrs that God help .. I don't think God has forgot those prayers .. And I don't plan on giving up ..