Civil war coming to America?

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In the event of a coup or a takeover, would you take up arms to restore lawful authority to America?

  • Yes. I would take up arms until every last traitor was rounded up and put on trial.

    Votes: 4 13.8%
  • Yes, but in a limited manner. I would take up arms to protect my community from traitors.

    Votes: 1 3.4%
  • No, I would not take up arms, unless my family was directly threatened.

    Votes: 6 20.7%
  • No, I would not take up arms. All forms of killing are sin.

    Votes: 3 10.3%
  • Other. The above actions do not properly describe the action I would take.

    Votes: 15 51.7%

  • Total voters
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Good thing you aren’t a leader then...I don’t think that’s a good way to handle things honestly. You can’t force anyone to do anything...God doesn’t and neither should we. We try to talk to people about the truth and pray God will open their eyes..that’s how it works.
Ye i know, i wasn't being serious...;)
 
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O..ok. I just thought you might have meant suicide or something and was hoping that wasn’t what you meant. :)
Oh no... Reading back what i wrote, thats how it reads... No, no, no... I did have a suicide plane once when i was a prodigal son.
I had been blindly led by the evil one when i thought he and God didn't exist... When i finally came to realize that my parents were right i found myself in the darkness, deep behind enemy lines, suicidal. Thats when i made this suicide plan...

But as soon as i realized i had been following Satan, that it all wasn't just a coincidence, i went in search of God and he shone the light on my path to show me the way back home to Him... Glory be to the Lord
 

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Don't be misled to believe that most liberals are opposed to firearms. They've got plenty of them. I'm from LA where most that live in traditionally ethnic neighborhoods then to vote for liberals. Thats also where the most shootings, especially drive-by's occur. The liberals aren't lining up to turn their guns in. They just want your's.

I used to shoot in CFDA but pre-CFDA set rules. In the sport it at first did not have set rules so some shot blanks at balloons and others shot wax .45 with a 209 primer(I never was a champion but it was fun) now they have set rules https://www.cowboyfastdraw.com/

Anyway though I wondered what exactly HR5717 would mean for this sport because of the modifications done to them. As an example I still have an .44 1851 black powder revolver that I have added a rake,action stop,reshaped the grip,bolt block,shimmed the arbor,bedded the barrel to frame ect... I did this myself along with holster modifications(deflector pate,reshape,rawhide ect.) so I have spent a lot of time on it but it's real tight meaning .007 end shake and no cylinder/barrel misalignment at battery. I'm to old to compete but it was my favorite and so I kept it and carried it for years when hog hunting.

But back to HR5717 https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/5717 lol,,,this is 260 pages long but if you click "listen to" a women computerized voice will read it to you. If anyone does a "find on this page" search for "black powder" it is not in the text. If you search for "antique firearms" it refers you to "Section 921" https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/5717/text and as far as I can tell exempts it from HR5717(?)

This though get really interesting when doing a "find on this page" search for the word "ammunition" why is it will be unlawful to purchase ammunition for another person. In addition to this searching the word in the text for "ammunition" there is so many hits in HR5717 that this post would be a short book so I will try to paraphrase it,lol...

It will mean that those who sell ammunition(and firearms) validate you have a license to purchase ammunition. If you have a license for a certain type firearm you cannot purchase ammunition for firearms you don't own. So for instance your spouse cannot purchase ammunition for you because it's under your license. You cannot purchase ammunition for a friend and give it to them ect... A every box of ammunition you purchase will be approved and reported to and by the government(so they can limit how much ammunition you have). Calibob I see you as easy going(your spirit) so I am saying this to you but I hope others see it and read all 260 pages of this bill because if they do they will realize that the title of this thread is not a reality.

I doubled HR5717's link so I put Section 921 here https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/921
 

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@iamsoandso Calibob I see you as easy going(your spirit) so I am saying this to you but I hope others see it and read all 260 pages of this bill because if they do they will realize that the title of this thread is not a reality.

I doubled HR5717's link so I put Section 921 here https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/921[/QUOTE]
I agree. The term Civil war is incorrect. We will have plenty more civil insurrections but the war is comming from board meetings not rebels. The more correct term would be something more like, 'Insidious takeover.'

This nation was not founded by godly men who's main concern was God first, others and self second the peace and tranquility. No, it had a large number of Freemason cultists. Who put money first. A key tactic of cults is to twist words slightly into something they weren't intended to mean or be used for. The four that I'm considering now are rights, freedom, privilege and liberty. Privilege's and liberty can be taken away. We don't really have rights or freedom. Just privileges and liberty.

The book of revelations is finished. It cannot be changed or altered the prophecy will come to pass. like it or not, sooner or later, the antichrist and Beast will come. it's already a done deal.

So rather than fretting about the near future. In a temporary nation in a temporary reality of a temporary life I'm more concerned with spreading the gospel and helping others than the good of the nation. I won't be an American in a thousand years but rather. I'll still be a child of God and Bride of Christ. I don't just oppose liberals or Conservatives. I oppose the entire anti God political system world wide. I'm easy going because I've realized that the clock is running out and my time is more valuable than fretting over the future of a nation or system that might not be here in 100 years. I've worked out my salvation in fear and trembling. I close in peace with Agape love.
 

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Yep we just need to wait for the twitter post they'll go...

Day 4 of CW... (unorganized militia): "dear Joe Biden we apologize for the delay in our assault but we are running low on supplies especially ammunition would you please see that the shipments are sped up to so that we can continue without delay?" (Joe B.) "no",,,,(unorganized militia) "why?",,,(Joe B.) "I thought I misread the teleprompter but I reread it and all it said was "no",,give me a second and I'll ask my wife"..... (wife) "no Joe you cant sell them bullets to attack us with",,,,(Joe) "?",,,, (unorganized militia) "?"........
 

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Yep we just need to wait for the twitter post they'll go...

Day 4 of CW... (unorganized militia): "dear Joe Biden we apologize for the delay in our assault but we are running low on supplies especially ammunition would you please see that the shipments are sped up to so that we can continue without delay?" (Joe B.) "no",,,,(unorganized militia) "why?",,,(Joe B.) "I thought I misread the teleprompter but I reread it and all it said was "no",,give me a second and I'll ask my wife"..... (wife) "no Joe you cant sell them bullets to attack us with",,,,(Joe) "?",,,, (unorganized militia) "?"........
Isn't it obvious by now. The Devil will succeed in taking over the world and we can't stop him. No Christians will be here when we return with the Lord to destroy those still fighting in the Valley of Megiddo. The USA will no longer exist.
 

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"But what is the use of preaching the Gospel to men whose whole attention is concentrated upon a mad, desperate struggle to keep themselves alive?"
- William Booth
 

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Isn't it obvious by now. The Devil will succeed in taking over the world and we can't stop him. No Christians will be here when we return with the Lord to destroy those still fighting in the Valley of Megiddo. The USA will no longer exist.

I agree "almost",,,,you keep saying Revelation is a done deal but in Revelation 11 there are still remaining two witnesses who will prophecy(see verse 1) and their testimonial ends in verse 7,,, so doesn't Revelation it's self state there is prophecy to still come? https://biblehub.com/interlinear/revelation/11.htm
 

calibob

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I agree "almost",,,,you keep saying Revelation is a done deal but in Revelation 11 there are still remaining two witnesses who will prophecy(see verse 1) and their testimonial ends in verse 7,,, so doesn't Revelation it's self state there is prophecy to still come? https://biblehub.com/interlinear/revelation/11.htm
Yes. but prophesy is the word in my bible, And if they are just quoting what the Bile says is still yet to come they would still be doing prophesy. Synonyms: predict · foretell · forecast · foresee · forewarn of · prognosticate · divine · augur · presage · previse · foreshow · croak · spae · vaticinate · auspicate

prophecy; NOUN (plural prophecies also prophesies)
  1. an inspired utterance of a prophet
  2. the function or vocation of a prophet /the inspired declaration of divine will and purpose
Speaking in tongues would fit definition #1

There is a curse on anyone that adds to, or takes away from the book of REVEALATIONS.
CH 22:18 I testify to everyone who hears the words of prophecy in this book: If anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book. 19 And if anyone takes away from the words of this book of prophecy, God will take away his share in the tree of life and the holy city, which are described in this book.

BSB.
 

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Forced masks, forced this and that... If i was the leader i would force everyone to watch and hear this lecture...

People will then be given a PCR (personal compliance removal) test...
If they pass, it is a clear sign the Holy Spirit is in them and they can go into society...

People that answer with any socialist answers will remain in quarantine with the TV on all the time with Yuri Bezmanov drumming in the facts, truth, prophecies and revelations... Yuri will be speaking non stop 24/7 even while u sleep, until the brainwashed brain washes out all the lies...

Only when they pass the test will we know their ready... Ready for a deeper purging of lies deep in the brain... Another 2 weeks in quarantine... With non stop presentation of facts from all kinds of experts...

One must show that the Holy Spirit is in them to be a part of my society...
The others are in the gulag... To dangerous to society
Yeah that's the most bat poop crazy thing I've seen in quite a while now
 

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Yes. but prophesy is the word in my bible, And if they are just quoting what the Bile says is still yet to come they would still be doing prophesy. Synonyms: predict · foretell · forecast · foresee · forewarn of · prognosticate · divine · augur · presage · previse · foreshow · croak · spae · vaticinate · auspicate

prophecy; NOUN (plural prophecies also prophesies)
  1. an inspired utterance of a prophet
  2. the function or vocation of a prophet /the inspired declaration of divine will and purpose
Speaking in tongues would fit definition #1

There is a curse on anyone that adds to, or takes away from the book of REVEALATIONS.
CH 22:18 I testify to everyone who hears the words of prophecy in this book: If anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book. 19 And if anyone takes away from the words of this book of prophecy, God will take away his share in the tree of life and the holy city, which are described in this book.

BSB.

I never know if I should begin the quote at verse 3 or at 10:11 https://biblehub.com/interlinear/revelation/10-11.htm so I usually begin at verse 1. Why is as you say "in my bible..." it's "esy" (instead of ecy). I suppose it could be that since this was not written with chapters or verses but was added later for ease of reference is the cause. If so though in Revelation 10:11 the word "again" https://biblehub.com/greek/3825.htm then would be a reference to Zechariah 4(and other OT Scriptures) and John is speaking of things that had already been given hence the word,,, "again".
 

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I never know if I should begin the quote at verse 3 or at 10:11 https://biblehub.com/interlinear/revelation/10-11.htm so I usually begin at verse 1. Why is as you say "in my bible..." it's "esy" (instead of ecy). I suppose it could be that since this was not written with chapters or verses but was added later for ease of reference is the cause. If so though in Revelation 10:11 the word "again" https://biblehub.com/greek/3825.htm then would be a reference to Zechariah 4(and other OT Scriptures) and John is speaking of things that had already been given hence the word,,, "again".
I was only pointing out that different translations print prophesy and prophecy and the tend to have slightly different meanings. I subscribe to Biblehub.com too. I have the Berean Study Bible on desktop and an Niv on my dresser, in a case with a sling so I can carry it with me and still have 2 free hands.

I recall that Crazy old King Saul once got naked threw himself on the floor and Prophesy'd from night till dawn. So neither word has a singular definition, usage or meaning my friend.
 

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As an interested onlooker into American politics, it seems to me that every trick in the book is being tried to depose what seems to be legitimately elected leaders (primarily Donald Trump, but other leaders also).
If you are an onlooker into American politics, you may want to get your glasses cleaned.

Mr. Trump was the legitimately elected leader from 2016-2020. The legitimate election in 2020 legitimately elected a different candidate, namely, a Mr. Joseph Biden. And yes, every trick in the book was being attempted to try to prevent him, the legitimately elected leader, from taking power. But it failed.

Please note, I am not a fan of Mr. Biden. I disagree with much of his platform. However, he was legitimately elected, and the attempts of certain members of the Republican party to lie and persuade millions that he somehow "stole" the election is nothing short of criminal.
 

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Don't be misled to believe that most liberals are opposed to firearms. They've got plenty of them. I'm from LA where most that live in traditionally ethnic neighborhoods then to vote for liberals. Thats also where the most shootings, especially drive-by's occur. The liberals aren't lining up to turn their guns in. They just want your's.
That’s because the criminal element who want to be able to hurt you and steal from you want to do it without getting shot themselves..vote if they vote for the people who say they want to take away your right to own guns.
And to that end...the politicians also want your guns gone so they can lord anything over you without having to worry about all the guns and ammo possibly aimed back at them.They see how disarming people have worked all over the world..and they like it.
 

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Also it's pretty much impossible to enforce a mask mandate but any business owner reserves the right to refuse service to anyone not wearing one
 
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Also it's pretty much impossible to enforce a mask mandate but any business owner reserves the right to refuse service to anyone not wearing one
Just as I predicted providing further evidence that this is all a scam...

Anyone who said forced vaccines would never happen or that we'd be back to normal has been falsified and need to return to truth.
But many don't understand science or falsification, while others are far to proud to even entertain the thought that they might be wrong