Democratic governors, COVID-19 deaths, and lockdown tyranny

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Nehemiah6

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The following 24 states have Democratic governors and deaths are in brackets as of May 3. It should be kept in mind that the deaths being reported due to COVID-19 are not necessarily accurate, and are also being fudged.

OVER 2,000 DEATHS
New York (23,616)
New Jersey (7,228)
Michigan (3,788)
Pennsylvania (2,580)
Illinois (2,361)
Connecticut (2,257)
California (2,057)


UNDER 2,000 DEATHS
Louisiana (1,862)


UNDER 1000 DEATHS
Washington (822)
Colorado (775)
Virginia (552)
North Carolina (385)
Minnesota (343)
Wisconsin (316)


UNDER 250 DEATHS
Kentucky (241)
Nevada (243)
Delaware (152)


UNDER 150 DEATHS
Kansas (133)
New Mexico (123)
Oregon (103)
Maine (53)
Hawaii (16)
Montana (16)


There are only six states with over 2,000 deaths. However, we need to see how coronavirus is being used for enforcing tyrannical laws in all these Democrat governed states, while releasing hardened criminals. As a result of unnecessary and unreasonable lockdowns, there are protest rallies being held in almost all of these states.

The Daily Mail has summed up the anger of Americans against these lockdowns:

Covid anger splits US: Texas crowd chants 'fire Fauci' and armed demonstrators swarm New Hampshire state house demanding lockdown be lifted while anti-Trump protesters in New York dump fake body bags outside president's properties
  • Protestors chanted 'fire Fauci' at a coronavirus lockdown rally in Austin, Texas, on Saturday
  • They were referring to Dr. Anthony Fauci, the country's top immunologist and infectious disease expert
  • Kim Pagan, of Toms River, New Jersey, was arrested for organizing the anti-lockdown rally in Trenton
  • Gov. Phil Murphy first implemented the coronavirus emergency orders last month
  • Several COVID-19 anti-lockdown protests were held by upset citizens around the United States on Friday
  • Protests happened in places like New Hampshire, Maryland, Virginia and New Jersey
  • Anti-Trump activists laid makeshift body bags in front of Trump's properties to protest his outbreak response
  • President Trump doubled down on his tweets to 'LIBERATE' Minnesota, Michigan and Virginia
  • He told reporters at Friday's White House briefing that the Democratic governors in those three states could have gotten the same result with less restrictions
  • Trump also said the protesters, many of whom were Trump supporters, were 'treated a little bit rough'
After all the information which has been published regarding Dr. Anthony Fauci and his shenanigans, there was absolutely no reason for Mr. Trump to avoid firing him at least one month ago. So those calling for his firing are perfectly justified.
 

EleventhHour

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Here is some interesting statistics....

In NYC all-cause mortality is 325% over normal.

In multiple European nations, specifically Italy, the UK, France, Portugal and the Netherlands, ranging from ~10% in Portugal to 98% in Italy.

In hard-hit Lombardy, 0.22% of the entire province died, including 0.57% of the district of Bergamo.

In Bergamo a stunning 10.2% OF ALL PEOPLE OVER 90 DIED THIS SPRING.

Dead is dead .........pretty hard to fudge those numbers.
 

tanakh

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Its interesting to note that New York has almost the same number of deaths as the whole of the UK (28,000) but seeing that the UK is
much smaller in size and population than the US what may seem to some there as an inconvenience or plot by wicked Governors is a serious crisis here.
 

gb9

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Its interesting to note that New York has almost the same number of deaths as the whole of the UK (28,000) but seeing that the UK is
much smaller in size and population than the US what may seem to some there as an inconvenience or plot by wicked Governors is a serious crisis here.
the virus seems to hit densely populated areas the hardest.
except, India has not been that hard hit, despite their population density.

seems as little about the virus makes sense...
 

EleventhHour

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the virus seems to hit densely populated areas the hardest.
except, India has not been that hard hit, despite their population density.

seems as little about the virus makes sense...
India went into one of the strictest lock down, no venturing outside.
As well the numbers of death take weeks to enter into the system... so those deaths are from weeks ago.
 

EleventhHour

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Its interesting to note that New York has almost the same number of deaths as the whole of the UK (28,000) but seeing that the UK is
much smaller in size and population than the US what may seem to some there as an inconvenience or plot by wicked Governors is a serious crisis here.
Yes I have been watching the numbers, is does not look good for the UK.
 

gb9

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Yes I have been watching the numbers, is does not look good for the UK.

India has an average of 31 cases per million, and 1 death per million.

putting the slums on India in lockdown is like putting a screen door on an igloo in Alaska.

now, that being said, it seems as if mass transit ( like n.y. , n.j. ) is a fertile breeding ground for the virus.

India. lots of people . not much mass transit. not much virus.

n.y. , n.j. lots of people . lots of mass transit. lots of virus.
 

EleventhHour

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India has an average of 31 cases per million, and 1 death per million.

putting the slums on India in lockdown is like putting a screen door on an igloo in Alaska.

now, that being said, it seems as if mass transit ( like n.y. , n.j. ) is a fertile breeding ground for the virus.

India. lots of people . not much mass transit. not much virus.

n.y. , n.j. lots of people . lots of mass transit. lots of virus.

I do not think there has been enough time yet in India to know... the numbers can only be understood by how much testing has been done.

However they started surveillance of the population in January, by contact racing and isolating, they have this already in place for communicable diseases.

New Zealand did not listen to the WHO and listened to a doctor in Hong Kong with whom the had been in contact, they shut their borders very quickly, locked down and did the same contact tracing...they have almost eradicated the virus.
 

gb9

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India is reporting 42,836 cases of virus, 1395 deaths, 1.107,223 tests.

now, could this be somewhat accurate numbers??

maybe the hospitals over there not being incentivized to over report covid cases and deaths to get federal bailout money, as American hospitals have??
 

DWR

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Why is it OK for the local Walmart to allow 300 customers to enter the store at one time but the powers to be will not allow 40 or 50 people to come together to worship God?
I can understand why some believe there is more to this lockdown than we are being told.
 

acts5_29

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The following 24 states have Democratic governors and deaths are in brackets as of May 3. It should be kept in mind that the deaths being reported due to COVID-19 are not necessarily accurate, and are also being fudged.

OVER 2,000 DEATHS
New York (23,616)
New Jersey (7,228)
Michigan (3,788)
Pennsylvania (2,580)
Illinois (2,361)
Connecticut (2,257)
California (2,057)


UNDER 2,000 DEATHS
Louisiana (1,862)


UNDER 1000 DEATHS
Washington (822)
Colorado (775)
Virginia (552)
North Carolina (385)
Minnesota (343)
Wisconsin (316)


UNDER 250 DEATHS
Kentucky (241)
Nevada (243)
Delaware (152)


UNDER 150 DEATHS
Kansas (133)
New Mexico (123)
Oregon (103)
Maine (53)
Hawaii (16)
Montana (16)


There are only six states with over 2,000 deaths. However, we need to see how coronavirus is being used for enforcing tyrannical laws in all these Democrat governed states, while releasing hardened criminals. As a result of unnecessary and unreasonable lockdowns, there are protest rallies being held in almost all of these states.

The Daily Mail has summed up the anger of Americans against these lockdowns:

Covid anger splits US: Texas crowd chants 'fire Fauci' and armed demonstrators swarm New Hampshire state house demanding lockdown be lifted while anti-Trump protesters in New York dump fake body bags outside president's properties
  • Protestors chanted 'fire Fauci' at a coronavirus lockdown rally in Austin, Texas, on Saturday
  • They were referring to Dr. Anthony Fauci, the country's top immunologist and infectious disease expert
  • Kim Pagan, of Toms River, New Jersey, was arrested for organizing the anti-lockdown rally in Trenton
  • Gov. Phil Murphy first implemented the coronavirus emergency orders last month
  • Several COVID-19 anti-lockdown protests were held by upset citizens around the United States on Friday
  • Protests happened in places like New Hampshire, Maryland, Virginia and New Jersey
  • Anti-Trump activists laid makeshift body bags in front of Trump's properties to protest his outbreak response
  • President Trump doubled down on his tweets to 'LIBERATE' Minnesota, Michigan and Virginia
  • He told reporters at Friday's White House briefing that the Democratic governors in those three states could have gotten the same result with less restrictions
  • Trump also said the protesters, many of whom were Trump supporters, were 'treated a little bit rough'
After all the information which has been published regarding Dr. Anthony Fauci and his shenanigans, there was absolutely no reason for Mr. Trump to avoid firing him at least one month ago. So those calling for his firing are perfectly justified.
Why did you cite the Texas protesters, yet not cite the number of deaths in Texas? They're at 884; just under 1,000. Republican governor.

There are also 180 other countries on lockdown. I'm pretty sure their governors are neither Republican nor Democrat. Seeing as how in other countries, those parties don't exist....
 

MattforJesus

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America knew of the coronavirus in November in China.

The world knows of flus, and viruses, like the spanish flu, and other epidemics, and pandemics, that happened in the past and how deadly they are.

And there is many speeches from years ago talking of viruses, and pandemics, and warnings, and we are not prepared, and even Bill Gates warning of a pandemic.

187 nations affected by the coronavirus.

A good government prepares for anything that could come up that could negatively affect their nation.

They keep themselves prepared for war when there is not a war, for they know there could be a possibility that there could be a war.

They keep themselves stocked up on food, and deal with their food wisely in case there is a food shortage for some reason, and they are prepared for it so the people do not starve and keep their nation strong.

They prepare economically when there is no economic crisis to be able to have a defense for it, and rebound the quicker, or maybe not suffer at all and then back on track without the emergency use.

And anything else that could negatively affect their nation, and even without it happening they should still be prepared for it for there is the possibility that it could happen.

And America keeps prepared military wise to protect her country, and other things she keeps prepared.

But they were not prepared for the coronavirus despite all the talks, and warnings, and to be prepared, of the past, and the flus, and viruses of the past that did much damage.

There does not even have to be one epidemic in the world and America should still be prepared for it in case one does break out.

And 187 nations are affected by the coronavirus but none of them were prepared either.

It seems as if America wanted a delayed reaction for the purpose of letting it spread because they wanted the coronavirus crisis on purpose, and whether they are exaggerating it, or the numbers are true, the delayed reaction is still going to show that the coronavirus got out of hand, and is here to stay, so the result is the same as far as what the people believe.

It does not make sense how anybody cannot be prepared, for they should be prepared without an epidemic going on, and they should of taken action as soon as they heard of the outbreak in China.

But the coronavirus is not going to spread like lightning, so it is strange that it affected 187 nations as if it shot across the world like lightning, and 187 nations could not be prepared for it.

If we know how bad viruses can be like the spanish flu why would they take such a relaxed position about it at the first when there was cases in America.

This is not the past but we are more technology advanced, and can communicate more with each other, and know what is going on in the world, and the world was not prepared.

This is a rant for it does not make sense, and it is foul play, and they are cruel to achieve what they want.
 

acts5_29

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Mainstream media is reporting a covid researcher on the verge of significant findings was shot and murdered last weekend:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/06/us/university-of-pittsburgh-professor-killed/index.html

This could go one of two ways: either the mainstream media knows it is unlikely this murder is related and they want to sow conspiracy theories in the public. OR: the journalists see the same potential for conspiracy we do, and want to report it.

I'm going with the latter. Journalists don't always have the same sense of justice I do (such as capital punishment), but they do often have a strong (albeit different) sense of justice. And writing stories is their contribution to the greater good; them doing what they can. Here we have a murderer who potentially killed not just one man, but tens of thousands.
 

Dude653

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You might say a lot down his tyranny but there's a reason why America is 5% of the world's population that has 30% of covid-19 deaths
It's almost as if Americans use are reckless and irresponsible
 

acts5_29

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EleventhHour

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35 out of 40 people arrested in Brooklyn for social distancing were black.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/08/us/n...5-of-40-people-arrested-black-trnd/index.html

Meanwhile, a rabbi dies, in New York. Jews flat out defy the social distancing ordinance and show up. Not only is no one arrested, but Mayor De Blasio apologizes for even saying anything.
https://news.yahoo.com/coronavirus-nyc-mayor-jewish-funeral-213737431.html

There is a difference between tyranny (oppression) and restrictions.. we need to be able to recognize the difference for when real oppression comes.
 

tanakh

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Your Civil war started because the South believed that their constitutional rights were being threatened. The Slavery issue was the focus then. Today for some it appears that the focus is the right to die from Corona
 

Desdichado

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Yes, but our love for constitutional rights and, before that, our rights as Englishmen has also motivated national unification and a great many good things (freeing the slaves among them).

It's not dissimilar from what Britain has down for crown and country. Good and ill.

Your Civil war started because the South believed that their constitutional rights were being threatened. The Slavery issue was the focus then. Today for some it appears that the focus is the right to die from Corona
 

Dude653

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Your Civil war started because the South believed that their constitutional rights were being threatened. The Slavery issue was the focus then. Today for some it appears that the focus is the right to die from Corona
Waaah... You are taking away my rights to spread contagious disease. I'm so oppressed
 

EleventhHour

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Mainstream media is reporting a covid researcher on the verge of significant findings was shot and murdered last weekend:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/06/us/university-of-pittsburgh-professor-killed/index.html

This could go one of two ways: either the mainstream media knows it is unlikely this murder is related and they want to sow conspiracy theories in the public. OR: the journalists see the same potential for conspiracy we do, and want to report it.

I'm going with the latter. Journalists don't always have the same sense of justice I do (such as capital punishment), but they do often have a strong (albeit different) sense of justice. And writing stories is their contribution to the greater good; them doing what they can. Here we have a murderer who potentially killed not just one man, but tens of thousands.
Seems to read this a lot lately. :unsure: