DOJ Drops Case Against Micheal Flynn/ Dallas Hairdresser Freed

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kaylagrl

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A great day for freedom and liberty. Micheal Flynn's case was dropped by the DOJ. General Flynn was set up and memos finally came out showing the truth. Also the Dallas Salon owner Shelley Luther was freed from jail after she refused to shut down her salon this week. I'd say it's a great day for America!!
 

Nehemiah6

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A great day for freedom and liberty.
Agreed. However, when are all the miscreants going to be locked up? Unless evildoers are held accountable, and pay the price of doing their crimes, there will be no end to all the attacks on innocent people.
 

Roughsoul1991

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Agreed. However, when are all the miscreants going to be locked up? Unless evildoers are held accountable, and pay the price of doing their crimes, there will be no end to all the attacks on innocent people.
In a Constitutional Republic the people if bothered enough can vote these folks out.

People got to wise up and know no matter how small the election we should vote in every one. Most people start out local. If we practice voting for moral candidates at the bottom over time they reach the top.

All this involves education especially the next generations. Which also involves parents voting for good school board candidates plus keeping pressure on them. If need be start homeschooling. If morals cannot be taught at school then we teach at home or churches during the week hire retired teachers to teach small classrooms.
 

Nehemiah6

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In a Constitutional Republic the people if bothered enough can vote these folks out.
Only if elections are fair and square. If there is voter fraud followed by sedition, then votes mean nothing. And unless the people see that justice is being fairly administered, why would they bother?
 

Roughsoul1991

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Only if elections are fair and square. If there is voter fraud followed by sedition, then votes mean nothing. And unless the people see that justice is being fairly administered, why would they bother?
We do the best we can. If we reach the point of why bother then you will probably see 2nd amendment usage more throughout the nation. Been seeing a rise in militias.

https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/265062-militia-movement-growing-at-rapid-rate

Probably will grow even more after the abuse during this virus.
 

Dude653

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The city should just cut off utilities to businesses refuse to close during a mandated lockdown
 

Desdichado

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I hope Gen. Flynn is readmitted into the administration and shows some real thymos.
 

Dude653

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I think there is a reason why America is 5% of the world's population but has almost 30% of covid-19 death
This is because people still don't believe it's a real threat and are careless and are irresponsible
Ignoring social distancing guidelines during a disease outbreak is putting the entire community at risk
 

cv5

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A great day for freedom and liberty. Micheal Flynn's case was dropped by the DOJ. General Flynn was set up and memos finally came out showing the truth. Also the Dallas Salon owner Shelley Luther was freed from jail after she refused to shut down her salon this week. I'd say it's a great day for America!!
Flynn is going to bankrupt a whole bunch of very bad people when the lawsuits fly.
Congrats and good health to you General Flynn.
 

cv5

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Agreed. However, when are all the miscreants going to be locked up? Unless evildoers are held accountable, and pay the price of doing their crimes, there will be no end to all the attacks on innocent people.
Durham has just about wrapped up his investigation. The word on the street is that indictments will be coming fast and furious.
 

Nehemiah6

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The city should just cut off utilities to businesses refuse to close during a mandated lockdown
Quite the opposite. The *mandated lockdown* is as bogus as all the other hoaxes (including Flynn's guilt), and is meant to destroy economies and attack civil liberties (and there is plenty of evidence for that). In NYC people who remained home were infected. How do you explain that? Had the borders and international flights been strictly shut down in January, the whole picture would have been different.

What has not been emphasized by the Leftist media is that only certain age groups and certain unhealthy people were seriously affected. The elderly and those with pre-existing health conditions were hospitalized or died. Young children and teens were barely affected.

Everyone's making a fuss about Wuhan virus, when flu deaths have been huge year after year and were simply ignored. The WHO estimates 650,000 flu deaths yearly. The estimate for Wuhan virus or *Chinese virus* (since this is called "hate speech") right now is about 277,000 (Johns Hopkins Interactive Map).
 

Desdichado

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A host of other factors are in play here- accuracy of reporting from China (if you believe the CCP's numbers, I have some property in the Everglades I'd love to sell you). America's strange but overall successful healthcare system keeping people alive with enfeebling conditions such as hypertension, diabetes, and so forth. The higher rate of testing. Adjustment from gross deaths to a per capita death rate. Etc. Etc. Etc.

I wouldn't feel comfortable drawing that conclusion from the data available.

I think there is a reason why America is 5% of the world's population but has almost 30% of covid-19 death
This is because people still don't believe it's a real threat and are careless and are irresponsible
Ignoring social distancing guidelines during a disease outbreak is putting the entire community at risk
 

Nehemiah6

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https://www.texasmonthly.com/news/dallas-salon-arrest-gofundme/
Apparently she started a GoFundMe page the day before she reopened
Publicity stunt much?
Not necessarily. I believe she was fined $7,000 and perhaps lost several thousand dollars worth of business. Anyhow the governor and AG did the right thing, but why did they not anticipate abuse of power from the get-go? In fact a Presidential Executive Order should have covered all the pitfalls right from the beginning.
 

Desdichado

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See I agree with you pretty often, but I think an Executive Order would be continuing a dangerous precedent.

This is more Governor Abbot's ballpark.

Not necessarily. I believe she was fined $7,000 and perhaps lost several thousand dollars worth of business. Anyhow the governor and AG did the right thing, but why did they not anticipate abuse of power from the get-go? In fact a Presidential Executive Order should have covered all the pitfalls right from the beginning.
 

p_rehbein

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A great day for freedom and liberty. Micheal Flynn's case was dropped by the DOJ. General Flynn was set up and memos finally came out showing the truth. Also the Dallas Salon owner Shelley Luther was freed from jail after she refused to shut down her salon this week. I'd say it's a great day for America!!
.......and former Governor Christy and his people were cleared of any wrong doing in the Bridgegate thingy. As well, the whole Russia thing against Trump and his people was proven to be false according to Fox News......

Anyone surprised that the Obama Administration was probably the most corrupt in our Nations History?
 
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Obama, Biden Oval Office Meeting On January 5 Was Key To Entire Anti-Trump Operation
Molly Hemingway


Information released in the Justice Department’s motion to dismiss the case it brought against Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn confirms the significance of a January 5, 2017, meeting at the Obama White House. It was at this meeting that Obama gave guidance to key officials who would be tasked with protecting his administration’s utilization of secretly funded Clinton campaign research, which alleged Trump was involved in a treasonous plot to collude with Russia, from being discovered or stopped by the incoming administration.

“President Obama said he wants to be sure that, as we engage with the incoming team, we are mindful to ascertain if there is any reason that we cannot share information fully as it relates to Russia,” National Security Advisor Susan Rice wrote in an unusual email to herself about the meeting that was also attended by Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates, FBI Director James Comey, and Vice President Joe Biden.

A clearer picture is emerging of the drastic steps that were taken to accomplish Obama’s goal in the following weeks and months. Shortly thereafter, high-level operatives began intensely leaking selective information supporting a supposed Russia-Trump conspiracy theory, the incoming National Security Advisor was ambushed, and the incoming Attorney General was forced to recuse himself from oversight of investigations of President Trump. At each major point in the operation, explosive media leaks were a key strategy in the operation to take down Trump.

Not only was information on Russia not fully shared with the incoming Trump team, as Obama directs, the leaks and ambushes made the transition chaotic, scared quality individuals away from working in the administration, made effective governance almost impossible, and materially damaged national security. When Comey was finally fired on May 9, in part for his duplicitousness regarding his handling of the Russia collusion theory, he orchestrated the launch of a Special Counsel probe that continued his efforts for another two years. That probe ended with Mueller finding no evidence of any American colluding with Russia to steal the 2016 election, much less Trump or anyone connected to him.

An analysis of the timeline from early 2017 shows a clear pattern of behavior from the federal officials running the collusion operation against the Trump campaign. It also shows how essential media leaks were to their strategy to sideline key law enforcement and intelligence officials and cripple the ability of the incoming Trump administration to run the country.

Here’s a timeline of the key moments and news articles of the efforts, per Obama’s direction, to prevent the Trump administration from learning about the FBI’s operation against it.

January 4: Following the closure of a pretextually dubious and politically motivated FBI investigation of Flynn at the beginning of January, the leadership of the FBI scrambled to reopen a case against Flynn, the man who in his role as National Security Advisor would have to review their Russia collusion investigation. FBI officials openly discussed their concern about briefing the veteran intelligence official on what they had done to the Trump campaign and transition team and what they were planning to do to the incoming Trump administration. Flynn had to be dealt with. The FBI’s top counterintelligence official would later memorialize discussions about the FBI’s attempts to “get [Flynn] fired.” No reopening was needed, they determined, when they discovered they had failed to close the previous investigation. They found this mistake “amazing” and “serendipitously good” and said “our utter incompetence actually helps us.” Even more noteworthy were texts from FBI’s #2 counterintelligence official Peter Strzok to FBI lawyer Lisa Page noting that the “7th floor,” a reference to Comey and his deputy director Andrew McCabe, was running the show.

January 5: Yates, Comey, CIA Director John Brennan, and Director of National Intelligence James Clapper briefed Obama on Russia-related matters in the Oval Office. Biden and Rice also attended. After the Obama briefing, the intelligence chiefs who would be leaving at the end of the term were dismissed and Yates and Comey, who would continue in the Trump administration, were asked to stay. Not only did Obama give his guidance about how to perpetuate the Russia collusion theory investigations, he also talked about Flynn’s conversations with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak, according to both Comey and Yates. Interestingly, Clapper, Comey, and Yates all said that they did not brief Obama about these phone calls. Clapper testified he did not brief Obama on the calls, Yates learned about the calls from Obama himself during that meeting, and Comey also testified he didn’t brief Obama about the calls, even though the intelligence was an FBI product. Rice, who publicly lied but later admitted under oath to her widespread use of unmasked intelligence at the end of the Obama administration, likely briefed Obama on the calls and would have had access to the intelligence. Comey mentions the Logan Act at this meeting.

It was this meeting that Rice memorialized in a bizarre inauguration-day email to herself that claimed Obama told the gathered to do everything “by the book.” But Rice also noted in her email that the key point of discussion in that meeting was whether and how to withhold national security information, likely including details of the investigation into Trump himself, from the incoming Trump national security team.

January 6: An ostensibly similar briefing about Russian interference efforts during the 2016 campaign was given to President-elect Trump. After that briefing, Comey privately briefed Trump on the most salacious and absurd “pee tape” allegation in the Christopher Steele dossier, a document the FBI had already used to obtain a warrant to spy on Trump campaign affiliate Carter Page. Comey told Trump he was telling him because CNN was looking for any reason it could find to publish a story about Russia having compromising information on him, and he wanted to warn Trump about it. He did not mention the dossier was completely unverified or that it was the product of a secretly funded operation by the Clinton campaign and Democratic National Committee.

January 10: In an amazing coincidence, CNN found the excuse to publish the Russia claims after a high-level Obama intelligence operative leaked that Comey had briefed Trump about the dossier. This selective leak, which was credulously accepted by CNN reporters Evan Perez, Jim Sciutto, Jake Tapper and Carl Bernstein, may have been the most important step in the operation to harm the incoming Trump administration. The leak of the briefing of Trump was used to legitimize a ridiculous dossier full of allegations the FBI knew to be false that multiple news organizations had previously refused to report on for lack of substantiation, and created a cloud of suspicion over Trump’s campaign and administration by insinuating he was being blackmailed by Russia.

January 12: The next part of the strategy was the explosive leak to David Ignatiusof the Washington Post to legitimize the use against Flynn of the Logan Act, a likely unconstitutional 1799 law prohibiting private individuals, not public incoming national security advisors, from discussing foreign policy with foreign governments. Ignatius accepted the leak from the Obama official. He wrote that Flynn had called Kislyak. “What did Flynn say, and did it undercut the U.S. sanctions? The Logan Act (though never enforced) bars U.S. citizens from correspondence intending to influence a foreign government about ‘disputes’ with the United States. Was its spirit violated?” Flynn’s routine and appropriate phone call became fodder for a developing grand conspiracy theory of Russia collusion. In discussions with investigators, both DOJ’s Mary McCord and Comey conspicuously cite this Ignatius column as somehow meaningful in the approach they would take with Flynn. “Nothing, to my mind, happens until the 13th of January, when David Ignatius publishes a column that contains a reference to communication Michael Flynn had with the Russians. That was on the 13th of January,” Comey said of the column that ran online on January 12. In fact, quite a bit had happened at the FBI prior to that leak, with much conversation about how to utilize the Logan Act against Flynn. And the leak-fueled Ignatius column would later be used by FBI officials to justify an illegal ambush interview of Flynn in the White House.


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