Epidemic of childless and miserable 40+ women

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The other issue, is idolizing marriage and kids over Jesus. I have heard pastors on YouTube talk about this. It seems hard to believe that idolizing marriage and kids would be bad, but apparently it is. I think this is another reason why a person may experience grief.
Hmm... Idolizing... That's thought provoking...

What is it the 2nd or 3rd commandment... And I'm not too sure I'm looking at it the right way...

I'll think about that
 

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This is ridiculous.
You just proved my point: "If you said that to any of the women who still buy the lies that are being pushed you'd be laughed to scorn and bitterly shamed."

But that's the beauty of America - for a short time left we can still think for ourselves and choose our path.

That's going to be ending shortly. Too many people are acquiescing to the powers that be.
 

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Thanks for the feedback on my response. Perhaps we understand some of the other responses a little differently, but that’s ok. I get the point of your post, wasn’t having a go at that - Just to clarify.
I think it's good to clarify so no one interprets it wrongly.

But right now we're facing a worse issue - the Beast is arising - I hope that Christians can see and feel it.
 

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Being married and having a child is not really in a person's control. It just means that she has not met the right person. What is she supposed to do? I think realizing this will reduce any grief. If a woman had a "missed opportunity" where she literally choose a career over a marriage/kids (where she rejected a proposal to take a flashy job across the country, or delayed having kids once in a marriage) and later wanted kids, she could have regrets. With respect to love/marriage alone, I think that can happen at any age.
That's true - I read about a young woman on Henry Makow who looked all over the country and she can't find a good man. She was in San Francisco and said the men were mostly gay. She went to NY and said the men expected her to sleep with them on the first date. She said they were only interested in 1) quick sex 2) her career - so that would discourage anyone. I truly felt for her and if I knew any single young men I would try to introduce them. She seemed like a true person.
 

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The internet Browsers lists porn as about the number one search topic :( It’s made it so readily available and so in your face that the devil must be ecstatic every time someone gets internet in their home or a kid gets private tv or internet access. Yes we can use it for good, but for so so many it is an open window to a world of sin they would maybe not have accessed otherwise.

It’s not only men who are tempted too, our society tells kids in school it is “healthy” to be interested in such things and to experiment on their own etc! Men get hooked on porn and not needing their wives in that department, or no longer able to be attracted to thier perhaps average or normal Or aging wife - often leave women’s needs unmet - so they can be tempted to find satisfaction elsewhere - and are encouraged by society to go online or have an affair!

How I long for heaven :(
That really shows where everyone is now. Satan has deceived many. But remember only few will follow the narrow path that leads to life.
 

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When we had our first child, my husband and I collectively made the decision for me to be a homemaker. I will be the first to admit there are long days some days when I find myself getting jealous of women who choose a career and seem to have more of a social life during the work day, but ultimately I think I get so much more satisfaction and I'm happier overall with the choice we made because I feel like I'm fulfilling a deeper purpose with my family. I definitely feel bad for other women on the other side of the fence who made different choices because it's hard to go back.

Also after reading through this thread, which is based on how women over 40 feel, I can't help but wonder if there is the same kind of issue with men, or is it a bigger deal with us (women)? I'm curious if any men have that perspective. Maybe since men are just more traditionally career driven, it's different. But it seems like if there are a lot of single women out there in need of partners, the same should be true for men! :)
I could have written your post. There was so much sacrifice. Being home with toddlers all day is exhausting and I too envied those in careers moving forward while my life came to a stop. (I guess there is no perfect life on this earth) Not only that but society devalues mothers (a Rockefeller/ Rothschild creation) and it made me feel less that I didn't have some impressive resume. But what I got instead was priceless and I would do it all over again.

That's a good point about men - I talked to one guy who was bitter because his wife left him and he missed out on having a family. What happens is that people are paired off by the time you get to older age and it's harder to meet someone.
 

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Man's perspective:
I love to hear about women that reject feminism, take care to their men and homeschool their children. Hat's off to you! Society depends on you! Without you civilization itself will soon collapse. But feminist women who reject their God given role? Career women? They disgust me! I have zero respect for them. I can't even stand to be anywhere near them.

As to the problem of so many single women in need of partners? I'm pretty confident I know the answer. It's two parts. One is indeed the presence of feminism. No actual man wants to be married to a feminist - who is invariably going to cheat on him, then divorce him, and take his kids and all his money. The other big contributor is porn. Guys get addicted to the dopamine rush of seeing a naked woman and masturbating to it. It reduces the drive to actually go out and get a real woman when all they have to do is close their eyes and have her in virtual form. And if you think it's bad now, then just wait until these sexbots get a little more realistic and the price comes down. Sexbots will be superior to a feminist in every way.

So my advise to young women: be the anti-feminist! Separate yourself as much as possible from your feminist peers. Reject everything they say and do. Hit the gym, and eat right. Reject the temptation to sleep around. Learn to enjoy cooking and taking care of a house. You will be mocked by most all women and lots of sissified men. But if you keep at it, I'm confident that you will eventually find a good man that you can raise a family with. And I truly believe that there is no greater joy than that.
That's a great post coming from a man's perspective! I read that men now reject western women and I think it's because of all the lies they've been told. We know that radical feminism is from the evil one as he seeks to pervert God's design. I read about those sexbots and I thought they would become a problem. They're the 'perfect woman' - and just think - she doesn't argue about anything! So I think they'll become a problem in this increasingly trans humanistic world being pushed.

I think there is so much anti-God pressure in college now that young people have to be super-strong to reject it. One of my family had a class and the teacher assigned this book and told them: "If any of you still believe in God after reading this book you're stupid!" It really shocked me that a professor would say that - but it showed me the climate that is there for young people.

I think todays world has been so poisoned by Rothschild and Rockefeller and whoever else is in their club that it's close to impossible to navigate it for families. I keep reading that it's locally where you have to make a difference. I think unless a lot of Christians tear themselves away from Netflix and get involved in local politics and other things harmful to families then these future generations lives are going to be a living hell.

America is about on the brink of collapse now.
 

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That's true - I read about a young woman on Henry Makow who looked all over the country and she can't find a good man. She was in San Francisco and said the men were mostly gay. She went to NY and said the men expected her to sleep with them on the first date. She said they were only interested in 1) quick sex 2) her career - so that would discourage anyone. I truly felt for her and if I knew any single young men I would try to introduce them. She seemed like a true person.
And if a woman cant find a suitable man, and decides to move on with her life and not to obsess over it, why will you and the other women who were able to get married and have kids, why will you shame single women for using their time wisely in having a career and being able to take care of themselves without the help of a man? Why cant you live your life and let others live theirs?
 

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I loved reading this post, and I could not agree more about NOT condemning women just for working. There are so many situations when a woman has no choice. My heart goes out to single moms all over this country who are struggling just to survive and I know a lot of couples live in big cities and have no choice but for both to work just to pay their mortgage.

In some ways, as women I think we are almost more cursed now because we have so much choice. It is so easy to second guess when you have choices. I have a college education and I could definitely have chosen to have a career instead of be a stay at home mom, but we felt like this was my calling. The funny thing to me is that it's not like I chose not to "work." I work like crazy lol. But people have always thought of "not working outside the home" as "not working." I honestly can't imagine a job or salary that would make me feel better about the choices I've made.

But most of my frustration in my other posts is directed at other women who I feel criticized by for my choices. There have been multiple times when other women have told me that I shouldn't "waste" my education or that I should go do this job or that job, etc. I mean really in a pressuring way like they are trying to save me because they think I was brainwashed or something. I have never told a woman that she was wrong for working outside the home. That's why I feel like feminism is so toxic. As women (especially Christian women) we should be loving, supportive, and forgiving toward each other. I don't see any of that happening with people that call themselves feminists.
I too have seen how feminism is toxic. I certainly agree with equal pay and equal rights but they go beyond that championing things I don't agree with - and as you said belittling those who have chosen family over career. Making it so both husband and wife has to work is by Rockefeller/ Rothschild design. In the future they want the state to own your children. They're doing it now with the sex-reassignment surgeries abomination. I believe in Australia if you try to convince YOUR child - YOUR flesh and blood - that it's wrong the parent can be jailed. They're trying to make it so a child can get it done without parent approval. You can see all the things aimed at young children now: cartoons with two mommies or two daddies. They pervert whatever God has ordained as right.

But I agree that it's much much harder for women today. The low birth rate proves it. The only birth rate that is continuing is South Americans in our country. And they can afford to keep having kids because they get free medical care, food, and housing I believe. We put off having a family until we could afford it. This country has been broken down in every way. They want to destroy Christian America. I really wish more pastors would lead. That's why I read Sons of Liberty Media - the only source of news I trust now that hasn't been bought off by Rockefeller.
 

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And if a woman cant find a suitable man, and decides to move on with her life and not to obsess over it, why will you and the other women who were able to get married and have kids, why will you shame single women for using their time wisely in having a career and being able to take care of themselves without the help of a man? Why cant you live your life and let others live theirs?
No one is shaming women who choose a career. This began as an observation then I looked it up and several psychologists - not just one - had observed the same thing. That's all it was. You're reading - accusing - too much into it.
 

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Of course, she loves me and my sis. That's the only type of mother that iv ever known.
I think that a mother's connection to her child is like some sort of miracle.

Its like there is a hidden wealth of knowledge and love that only becomes available when a woman has a child, would you say?
Even in the animal kingdom, the mothers know exactly what to do and they will defend their young to the death...
Is there a greater joy for a woman than having a child? Do u find that women change after having a child?


How old are your kids anyway? I find it interesting that u sometimes wonder if being at work would of been more satisfying...
I'm reminded of the one girl that told me she would rather be at work...
I guess what u guys would be thinking is all the hard stuff about raising kids...
But I have a strong feeling that after only a few weeks of work you would be regretting the change and wished u were with your kids.

I think also that full-time mums need a break from the kids. Have an afternoon/evening off, go and do something pleasurable.
Time apart makes the heart grow fonder, as they say...

But ask women in passing conversation whether they would of preferred to be with the kids or worked, especially mums whose kids are now adults... Listen to them and watch their body language too. Its sad.

Our government said that stay-at-home mums were hurting the economy... But whose economy? Not yours or mine.
All they care about is making money. They don't care about us and are willing to abuse and steal from children to do it.
There is also this kind of shaming that sometimes happens like u have "internal misogyny" or something.

An example

These people know nothing about that woman...
It turns out that he works 12 hours a day and she loves being a mum and wife... Yet these dumb idiots make fun of her.

Anyways... You would like a lovely person and I wish you all the best
This is the type of shaming that women get who choose a family. It's sickening the way that woman was abused.
 
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I could have written your post. There was so much sacrifice. Being home with toddlers all day is exhausting and I too envied those in careers moving forward while my life came to a stop. (I guess there is no perfect life on this earth) Not only that but society devalues mothers (a Rockefeller/ Rothschild creation) and it made me feel less that I didn't have some impressive resume. But what I got instead was priceless and I would do it all over again.
Thank you!
Thank you!
Thank you!

You are awesome. Society could not survive without you. You've done more for our nation than all the wasted sacrifice of all our living military veterans combined - and I am a veteran Your family is your resume - and it blows away the lying resumes of all these stupid corporate women. Don't ever let them make you feel ashamed or less worthy than them. They are the ones that are less worthy. I would lay down my life for a Christian homeschooling mother. I wouldn't lift a finger for a corporate woman.
 

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There's a good case to make that through propaganda they are targeting certain demographics to encourage them forsake child reproduction and create a generation of non-breeders:

Why do they want women to abandon the family unit in exchange for corporate America?
Why do they promote LGBTQ?
Why do they promote abortion?
Why does feminists make themselves unappealing to men?
Why are men avoiding Western women with ever-increasing frequency?
Why are divorce rates at about 50%?

A lot of people are being deceived without really realizing it. The answer to all of these questions is that they weaken the family unit. Simultaneously they heavily tax American citizens, making it even harder to raise a family, while bringing in immigrants unchecked and unchallenged, giving them free housing and generous welfare.

If you haven't figured it out yet then Western society is slowly collapsing to liberalism.

At this point we just need to stick together in Christian solidarity and resist it: Have families, teach them traditional values, home school them, teach them the Bible, teach them to grow up and do the same.

I searched for this post again because it is even MORE true now.

Biden is raising taxes on Americans
People are flooding in through the border going on welfare, food stamps, Medicaid

Not that I blame them - if I was poor I would try to find a place where my family could thrive. It's just going to destabilize America. There may come a time when they tell us welfare has run out - then there will be rioting. I don't know if that's planned but it seems that may be the plan. Rome allegedly fell due to influx of foreigners and they're trying to topple America.

I don't think America is going to last too much longer.

* I'll give you a tip: my hub worked in the trades and warned me never to drive behind a truck. He said most foreigners are now driving trucks and they don't know what they're doing. They load the truck wrong, don't secure things properly.
 

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But what happened to the relationship? If u don't mind me asking...

I just started a new chapter... I turned a van into a camper and I'm on the road...😆😆😆
Eh yolo... U know what im saying...
I always wanted to do it and covid kind of pushed me further into it...
You're traveling in a van? My hub wanted to do that. I'm pretty damaged so can't. Are you traveling all over the country? I'd love to travel to South America.
 

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Thank you!
Thank you!
Thank you!

You are awesome. Society could not survive without you. You've done more for our nation than all the wasted sacrifice of all our living military veterans combined - and I am a veteran Your family is your resume - and it blows away the lying resumes of all these stupid corporate women. Don't ever let them make you feel ashamed or less worthy than them. They are the ones that are less worthy. I would lay down my life for a Christian homeschooling mother. I wouldn't lift a finger for a corporate woman.
Wow you made my day! You really have your values aligned right. I'm sure there are many women who would give their right arm to meet a man like you who would treasure them for doing what is built into them to do.
 

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No one is shaming women who choose a career. This began as an observation then I looked it up and several psychologists - not just one - had observed the same thing. That's all it was. You're reading - accusing - too much into it.
Thank you!
Thank you!
Thank you!

You are awesome. Society could not survive without you. You've done more for our nation than all the wasted sacrifice of all our living military veterans combined - and I am a veteran Your family is your resume - and it blows away the lying resumes of all these stupid corporate women. Don't ever let them make you feel ashamed or less worthy than them. They are the ones that are less worthy. I would lay down my life for a Christian homeschooling mother. I wouldn't lift a finger for a corporate woman.
You both are awesome. And whatever you say, are the only opinons that matter. I guess this thread can be closed now. There is really nothing more to add.
 
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Wow you made my day! You really have your values aligned right. I'm sure there are many women who would give their right arm to meet a man like you who would treasure them for doing what is built into them to do.
I've got a great, great woman who treats me like a king. She has helped me become a better man. Married 27 years now. Raised a couple kids who are still rough around the edges but they're going to be better people than either of us. My boy got married a year ago, and we just found out we have our first grandchild on the way! Woohoo! My wife is going absolutely crazy! hahaha
 
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I could have written your post. There was so much sacrifice. Being home with toddlers all day is exhausting and I too envied those in careers moving forward while my life came to a stop. (I guess there is no perfect life on this earth) Not only that but society devalues mothers (a Rockefeller/ Rothschild creation) and it made me feel less that I didn't have some impressive resume. But what I got instead was priceless and I would do it all over again.

That's a good point about men - I talked to one guy who was bitter because his wife left him and he missed out on having a family. What happens is that people are paired off by the time you get to older age and it's harder to meet someone.
Yes! It's really in those moments when you are just absolutely exhausted from chasing a 3 year old while trying to stay on a newborn's feeding schedule that you can be tempted to be jealous. Those are truly long days, weeks, and months that probably only stay at home mom can truly understand, but we get through it with the Lord's help and having a good family structure. It gets easier after that and easier to see how rewarding our sacrifices are.
 

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You both are awesome. And whatever you say, are the only opinons that matter. I guess this thread can be closed now. There is really nothing more to add.
Have you considered speaking with someone about the hostilities that this is bringing out in you? I say that not to be mean but as someone with concern that this is stirring something up in you that you may need to explore. Sometimes journaling helps identify things troubling to us and helps get to the root of a matter.
 

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I've got a great, great woman who treats me like a king. She has helped me become a better man. Married 27 years now. Raised a couple kids who are still rough around the edges but they're going to be better people than either of us. My boy got married a year ago, and we just found out we have our first grandchild on the way! Woohoo! My wife is going absolutely crazy! hahaha
Married 27 years is a feat to accomplish in today's society! You are wise in treasuring your wife and kudos to her for treating you like a king! It's good to hear that as it motivates me to want to do better. We're about 42 years. Congrats on the grandchild!!!!!! There is NOTHING on this earth more precious! So good to hear that!


*I really hope that someone on here is inspired to adopt. You are needed much more than you know. Many children fall into the wrong hands - I saw this in our old neighborhood - and by you adopting you could save that child. Our neighbor adopted a young boy who is now a teen and he's such a nice kid. I was in a bad way one day and he spotted me and came over and carried all of my groceries in the house.

I hope that if you've thought about it you take the next step because you are needed.