European refugee crisis: tensions mounting, nations reacting

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Viligant_Warrior

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Refugee crisis: Backlog of refugees stokes tensions in the Balkans

Croatia’s actions over the past 24 hours show it is not ready to join Europe’s free movement agreement, a top advisor to Hungarian prime minister Viktor Orban told local radio.

“If Croatia puts up its hands and says, no, I don’t want to defend the borders, then Hungary can only say that it isn’t ready to join Schengen when the moment comes to decide,” Antal Rogan told InfoRadio.

Orban, a right-winger, has previously said the crackdown on refugees is to defend “Christian Europe”.
We best keep our eyes on Europe in the coming weeks. At the beginning of the month, the U.S. came under increasing pressure -- which continues -- to take in Syrian and other refugees. Obama has said we can take in as many as 65,000 of them.

Yeah, right. We're $18.3 trillion in debt, already have as many as 30 million illegal aliens within our borders, have an economy that is crippled despite the government's efforts to paint it as rosy, and can't afford to fight a war if it becomes necessary. What the hell are we going to do with 65,000 Syrians and others, among whom will undoubtedly be still more terrorists seeking to wage jihad against the West.

Could the clown in the White House by any more ignorant?
 

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Why aren't these people fighting as hard to keep their country as they are to escape?
 
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I am in england and i am really scared for what it will be like when they arrive here. I keep seeing footage of them attacking women jumping on cars and grabbing people out of their cars and hitting them.
I know it is not all of them but its still a good number of them and how many will be terrorist i do feel bad for thinking this way as it isnt very christian i know but they just dont seem to have any respect for us and our people and our laws.
 

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What footage have you been watching Leeze?
 
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It was on facebook it was filmed in switsland i think it was so shocking they knocked a woman out and attacked others
 
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Why aren't these people fighting as hard to keep their country as they are to escape?
Who's side would you pick? Assad or Islamic State?

I'd flee, and I pray for Jesus to help those fleeing. So there is no fault in them for fleeing. There is nothing for anyone except death and enslavement in Syria for now.

Indeed though them bringing islam with them is not desired as it is the very problem that is the spark of their problems for the past thousand some years. After all the Syria war is about the war over who is really Islamic in their cultures, and they do not spare even each other.

I think if even a handful of Christians are spared the chaos in Syria it is worth it. I do not think islam could gain a significant foothold in the West, at least not for the current time with western culture being so opposite of Islamic culture.
 

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Why aren't these people fighting as hard to keep their country as they are to escape?
Especially since the vast majority of these refugees are men. They flee from the danger but leave their women and children behind.
 

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I'm off to Switzerland in a few weeks time, hope they haven't got to where I'm going to (Basel)! :p

I think the US needs to step up and take their fare share, as regards being in debt, which country isn't!
 

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I'm off to Switzerland in a few weeks time, hope they haven't got to where I'm going to (Basel)! :p

I think the US needs to step up and take their fare share, as regards being in debt, which country isn't!
That's fantastic.

You hope none of these expatriates are where you are heading, but Americans must passively submit to taking in their "fair share."

Good on you.
 
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Who's side would you pick? Assad or Islamic State?

I'd flee, and I pray for Jesus to help those fleeing. So there is no fault in them for fleeing. There is nothing for anyone except death and enslavement in Syria for now.

Indeed though them bringing islam with them is not desired as it is the very problem that is the spark of their problems for the past thousand some years. After all the Syria war is about the war over who is really Islamic in their cultures, and they do not spare even each other.

I think if even a handful of Christians are spared the chaos in Syria it is worth it. I do not think islam could gain a significant foothold in the West, at least not for the current time with western culture being so opposite of Islamic culture.
This is actually a common form of Jihad called Hijra. I've argued again and again that Muslims can't take over the West until I read about how Hijra works. Now I firmly believe that Europe will fall to Islam within the next 50-75 years.

Remember when the US had such a strong opposing nature against Socialism/Communism/Marxism?

I'm never nervous about stuff like this, but this one has got me concerned haha.
 
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Here in Britain I have stopped watching the news, it's all I heard before leaving for Spain...10 days later it's all I've heard since returning. I'm sick to death of hearing about it - other European countries "bullying" our weak leader into further filling our small island. The sooner we get out of Europe the better as far as I'm concerned. Why doesn't France take in more? For sure they have the room and have a similar population to us. Germany is setting itself up for a massive fall and they have taken more than their share.

I'm sure there are genuine refugees among them but...why are there so many men among them? If indeed they are genuine refugees why are they picking and choosing which country they want to live in? Wouldn't they be happy to have escaped to any western civilised nation? No they aren't satisfied with reaching safety they want to choose where to go and inevitably they end up here. I'm all for taking Christians but Muslims?

Come back Jesus, I've had enough of living in this soft weak nation, a nation that is rapidly going the Islamic route. where there is no religion it's easier for the Islamist's to set down roots of their own. God help us, God save us!
 
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Oh and it's not just Syrian refugees - they have all jumped on the bandwagon - we don't know what we're getting and that includes terrorists!
 
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Oh and it's not just Syrian refugees - they have all jumped on the bandwagon - we don't know what we're getting and that includes terrorists!
Yes most of them are economic migrants. I have no problem with people coming to better themselves and contribute to our society, but they should do it legally. I also have strong feelings about our politicians. They allow people here from EU countries without proper checks on their backgrounds. We have had two murders of young women here both committed by Polish immigrants. One who committed suicide had already served time in Poland for murdering his wife. The second broke into a house and stabbed a young mother of two to death while she was speaking to her husband on the phone. Apart from these crimes the crime rate in the UK has risen since the Labour government let millions of people in for political advantage.
They admitted that it was partly to increase their vote. They have now elected a Marxist as party leader.
 
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Mad parrot lady Well said i tottaly agree with you x
 
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concerning migrants from non european countries

the uk takes refugee's from camps in the middle east, they go through a strict selection process, we dont have the same problem of thousands getting through our border, esp now as belgium and hungary have closed their borders. we also have our own port controls established in countries that surround the uk as well as border controls in our own country. yes a small amount will no doubt get in but nothing compared to the problems other european countries are having. personally i dont have a problem of helping people fleeing from war, but i do wonder if there is any reason most dont return when the war is over.. i dont think fear-mongering is helpful, one European country has said they will only take christian refugee's. yes there are many christians fleeing the war too, they are not all moslem but i agree the majority seem to be. if you have a pre-disposed hate for moslems then this will be a great article for you to further vent that hate, if you have a heart to evangelise to other faiths, you may find this is a great opportunity to do so. I spose it depends on wether you believe god is in control or not.


John 19

10So Pilate said to Him, "You do not speak to me? Do You not know that I have authority to release You, and I have authority to crucify You?" 11Jesus answered, "You would have no authority over Me, unless it had been given you from above; for this reason he who delivered Me to you has the greater sin."
 
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this is a debate in gov at present for those interested
UK- new counter-extremism bill, which will ban non-violent extremists, risks provoking a backlash in Britain’s Muslim communities a government watchdog has warned. Cameron have defined extremism as as “vocal or active opposition to fundamental British values”.

although there is opposition to the bill, it will more than likely go thru with some minor adjustments in my opinion, but the opposition have the right to voice their concern in a country that allows freedom of speech that doesn't incite hatred.
 
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I have a heart and it goes out to those fleeing the war and comming in peace but when i see footage of them throwing food at police when all they were doing was trying to offer food and water and throwing rocks at the good people of greece who are trying to help them as best they can then it is no wonder i am afraid for what will come for me and my family in england. I dont call that fear mongeringi call that being realistic.
 
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To be honest Labour and conservative have both messed-up big time. I'm not going to get political because I don't trust either of them.

Better for us to put our trust in the Lord because nothing works outside of His will anyway, yes it is scary what is happening and I admit to being fearful - not so much for myself because the worst will come when I'm gone but we just have to trust God. The Bible tells us that these things must come to pass - doesn't make it less scary but it helps to know the outcome. As Christians we know what the ultimate outcome will be don't we!