Fox News Video 10-15 Pelosi delays bringing impeachment vote to House floor

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Whispered

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But Pelosi doesn't bring it to a formal House vote on the floor.
Not a game? No, it's a soft coup and in parts, Sedition.
Some reports say she doesn't have the votes to impeach. It wouldn't get past the Senate in any case.
The Dem's at this point are embarrassing themselves. General principles of due process are out the window. That was evident when Mueller's "report" went public.
No evidence! That should have ended this.
 

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But Pelosi doesn't bring it to a formal House vote on the floor.
Not a game? No, it's a soft coup and in parts, Sedition.
Some reports say she doesn't have the votes to impeach. It wouldn't get past the Senate in any case.
The Dem's at this point are embarrassing themselves. General principles of due process are out the window. That was evident when Mueller's "report" went public.
No evidence! That should have ended this.
It seems the coup was in play before Trump even won. The FBI seemed to have had a plan almost as a insurance policy to bring about his removal if he had won. Can I prove this evidently? Other than some text messages and all the surrounding evidence that points to corruption. I really do not doubt it to be true.
 

Whispered

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It seems the coup was in play before Trump even won. The FBI seemed to have had a plan almost as a insurance policy to bring about his removal if he had won. Can I prove this evidently? Other than some text messages and all the surrounding evidence that points to corruption. I really do not doubt it to be true.
Nor do I. The FISA court warrant issued due to perjury in what we hear called the Steele dossier. How is it no one's held accountable for perjuring themselves before the FISA court?
Oh, that's because two of the culprits were Obama and his protege' HRC. She who is absolutely certain she will never answer under the law, as a trained attorney, for breaking the laws.

I think it is because she has so much dirt that those who are dirty in the offices of power in America and elsewhere, as well as dirt on those who could prosecute her for espionage, as one charge that comes to mind, and those persons know good and well she'll throw them under the bus to get a deal. So they let her get away with it all.

I agree, the Left and their henchmen were out to get Trump even when he was on the campaign trail. But HRC and Obama never thought he'd actually beat her at the polls.

I think the Left on Capitol Hill, and the most public conspirators in the coup, are the ones that had staked the most on HRC winning the office. They just knew she'd win and they'd be in the high clover for years! Then it all went bust. Now they're out for blood.
HRC wrote a book after the election. "What Happened", blames almost everyone in the know for her loss save for herself, and believe it or not, Donald Trump.
Trump was a Democrat. He returned to the Republican party in 2012. But he'd been a Republican before that in 1987 and in 2009. He's switched parties something like five times and once was even an Independent. When he was a Democrat he ran with HRC and WJC and was in all those power circles as one of NY's elite.

Who knows, in reality it could all be one big charade. As in Bill and Hillary are the best of friends with Donald and Melania.

If you've ever walked among those rich and powerful in Congress at their little soiree's in D.C. when they think they're among their own and safe to let their hair down just a tad, if not but you do get that invite, go. Because you'll see the change in personalities between that which is in the media at odds, and those who are in "bi-partisan" good company laughing, throwing 'em back, and talking about the stuff you just wish you could stream live to the Net. My skin crawled. Talk about your armor of God growing thick. Lordy. But what an experience.

And then to sit in the gallery and watch those people act for the C=SPAN camera's and the voters who were there too watching them go through the motions, when not long before I was listening to them talk while in party mode, party as in party, not political party, about those bills that they were going to go over "officially" days later, was an education in itself.

Have you ever watched that John Carpenter classic, "They Live"? There they are! :cool:

I know a woman who was in a Federal law enforcement position for over thirty years and well placed to know quite a bit. She ran background checks for current presidents administration and other such things. She never talked about her work but she did reveal at least that much.

She retired shortly before the election and had no respect for Comey when he was Director of the FBI. She was cordial but she knew a lot of things that made her unimpressed with the man. I think she retired because she saw the writing on the wall, made with dirty water and blood, think Seth Rich, and got out so she wouldn't have to deal with it. Seeing all that's transpired since that retirement I can't blame her one bit.





"The Steele Dossier has been used to secure Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISA) warrants, to validate House and Senate investigations, and to justify the appointment of a special prosecutor to investigate the president’s ties to Russia. "
STEELE DOSSIER TIMELINE – JUST THE FACTS
 

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Nor do I. The FISA court warrant issued due to perjury in what we hear called the Steele dossier. How is it no one's held accountable for perjuring themselves before the FISA court?
Oh, that's because two of the culprits were Obama and his protege' HRC. She who is absolutely certain she will never answer under the law, as a trained attorney, for breaking the laws.

I think it is because she has so much dirt that those who are dirty in the offices of power in America and elsewhere, as well as dirt on those who could prosecute her for espionage, as one charge that comes to mind, and those persons know good and well she'll throw them under the bus to get a deal. So they let her get away with it all.

I agree, the Left and their henchmen were out to get Trump even when he was on the campaign trail. But HRC and Obama never thought he'd actually beat her at the polls.

I think the Left on Capitol Hill, and the most public conspirators in the coup, are the ones that had staked the most on HRC winning the office. They just knew she'd win and they'd be in the high clover for years! Then it all went bust. Now they're out for blood.
HRC wrote a book after the election. "What Happened", blames almost everyone in the know for her loss save for herself, and believe it or not, Donald Trump.
Trump was a Democrat. He returned to the Republican party in 2012. But he'd been a Republican before that in 1987 and in 2009. He's switched parties something like five times and once was even an Independent. When he was a Democrat he ran with HRC and WJC and was in all those power circles as one of NY's elite.

Who knows, in reality it could all be one big charade. As in Bill and Hillary are the best of friends with Donald and Melania.

If you've ever walked among those rich and powerful in Congress at their little soiree's in D.C. when they think they're among their own and safe to let their hair down just a tad, if not but you do get that invite, go. Because you'll see the change in personalities between that which is in the media at odds, and those who are in "bi-partisan" good company laughing, throwing 'em back, and talking about the stuff you just wish you could stream live to the Net. My skin crawled. Talk about your armor of God growing thick. Lordy. But what an experience.

And then to sit in the gallery and watch those people act for the C=SPAN camera's and the voters who were there too watching them go through the motions, when not long before I was listening to them talk while in party mode, party as in party, not political party, about those bills that they were going to go over "officially" days later, was an education in itself.

Have you ever watched that John Carpenter classic, "They Live"? There they are! :cool:

I know a woman who was in a Federal law enforcement position for over thirty years and well placed to know quite a bit. She ran background checks for current presidents administration and other such things. She never talked about her work but she did reveal at least that much.

She retired shortly before the election and had no respect for Comey when he was Director of the FBI. She was cordial but she knew a lot of things that made her unimpressed with the man. I think she retired because she saw the writing on the wall, made with dirty water and blood, think Seth Rich, and got out so she wouldn't have to deal with it. Seeing all that's transpired since that retirement I can't blame her one bit.





"The Steele Dossier has been used to secure Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISA) warrants, to validate House and Senate investigations, and to justify the appointment of a special prosecutor to investigate the president’s ties to Russia. "
STEELE DOSSIER TIMELINE – JUST THE FACTS
Agreed. And yet they act like Trumps phone call to Ukraine as they claim was trying to get political dirt on another candidate is the reason to impeach but yet they did just that with the Steele Dossier using a British Spy hired by Fusion GPS who was hired by Hillary and the DNC. Spygate has done so much damage to this country.

https://m.theepochtimes.com/spygate-the-true-story-of-collusion_2684629.html

They can BS at parties or even joke about policies or even create bipartisan friendships. But as long as Trump keeps pushing policies I can support then I can handle many of the dumb things he says or even the statements that get him into trouble that he has to resurrect and people say look he lies. That can be annoying but thankfully we actually have a President to push conservative views.
 

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the fact that the " impeachment" will not be voted on means it was just a ploy to keep " trump" and " impeach" in the headlines...
 

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Agreed. And yet they act like Trumps phone call to Ukraine as they claim was trying to get political dirt on another candidate is the reason to impeach but yet they did just that with the Steele Dossier using a British Spy hired by Fusion GPS who was hired by Hillary and the DNC. Spygate has done so much damage to this country.

https://m.theepochtimes.com/spygate-the-true-story-of-collusion_2684629.html

They can BS at parties or even joke about policies or even create bipartisan friendships. But as long as Trump keeps pushing policies I can support then I can handle many of the dumb things he says or even the statements that get him into trouble that he has to resurrect and people say look he lies. That can be annoying but thankfully we actually have a President to push conservative views.
Oh come now, didn't you realize? Democrats can do that! A Republican they hate cannot. ;)
I've said before, all this is smoke and mirrors, a magicians old trick, that the Democrats on the Hill are pulling. Distract the audience with hyperbole that they know their base will eat up, while the opposition will despise, put all their sins on Trump and keep repeating those false charges over and over again, it begins to have the effect like unto cult programming. Susceptible listeners will believe.
Then, hire angry people who have been led to believe and need the cash, to go to Trump rallies now, as they were hired to do in 2016, and get violent in the crowd gathered. This shows how depraved Trump's followers are and by allusion then becomes Trump's fault.

Meanwhile, the criminals who are guilty of all they accuse Trump of, like Biden and Hunter in the Ukraine, while Trump has every right to investigate being his office is being sought by Joe Biden in 2020, the conduct of what was a former VP, and for whom certain ethics rules did apply.
There is nothing that says a President cannot conduct an inquiry into wrong doing by a member of the Executive Branch. That kind of thing isn't the exclusive domain of just the federal law enforcement agencies.

What the Democrats are in an uproar about is that now going into the 2020 election they're putting their chips behind Biden. As they did Hillary in 2016. They're determined he'll win the office and take Trump out because they can't bear to imagine another 4 years of a man who can't be bought, can't be threatened, and who loves God and America. Unlike they themselves.
They love money and power. And as Obama demonstrated with the Democrats collusion as well as Hillary when he was in office, they hate America being a free democratic Constitutional Republic. And they'll do anything to change that. Why? Because their plans are to stay high and mighty and rich in the aftermath.
While (they think) we will continue to serve and fear them.
That's why all those laws were passed under Bush 43, like for the first time in our history, "free speech zones", installed well and away from where he would be giving a public address. Because those who disagreed with the shadow president were not allowed to say so and be heard in the media.
And the Patriot Act , and the National Defense Authorization Act, and the and all of its little add-on legislation that further impacted citizen freedom and speech.

Socialism, is the goal I think. And we know what that leads to. Communism. And to top it off a little dab of Fascist dictatorship in practice, not on paper, but brought to bear under the articles of those prior laws put into effect far earlier as part of that future vision. The Patriot Act, the NDAA, the"Portman Murphy Countering Disinformation and Propaganda Act", and all manner of other laws to come and that are not mentioned there, so as to control the American population.

I believe the mind and a persons lifestyle has a direct affect on their state of health. A somatic effect. I think the foremost proponent of Socialism, Bernie Sanders, when he was on the trail suffered his heart attack because his rhetoric was not what America is about. Nor is it what he actually has his heart set on when I think contrary to his handlers coercion to go that route speaking in favor of Socialism, he cited as prime examples of its success both in 2016 and in this latest round, countries that actually have not been Socialist for years. And due to Socialisms enormous failure. His heart wasn't in it. Or conversely, it was fully committed and yet it was so toxic an agenda that his body shut him down.
That sounds cruel perhaps and unkind as a Christian, however, I've worked in the natural healing arts and mind and body are inextricably connected and responsible for one another as pertains to manifesting in the person what they believe. The mind believes every word you say.
And I don't think Bernie either meant what he was saying, or could live with the America he envisioned as he was saying it.
A man who makes something like three million dollars per annum and has three houses is all for Socialism? And taxing the rich as much as 80%? Pony up the bucks big boy. Lead by example. Write that check to the IRS. Or, better yet, take 80% of your net revenue this year and use it to pay in full the debts of college students in your district.

That'll happen any minute now.

What people who are in the 99% of the population, you , me, don't consider is, because I've seen that this is true while circulating amid that 1% and the politicians there, when they talk about concessions, sacrifice, increase in taxes, loss of liberties, freedoms, curtailing your privacy, etc.... they're talking about you! Me! What we'll need to get use to. Not them. Not their friends and family and those other 1percenters. But us.
You know, the one's they're sure will re-elect them again and again so they can pursue over and over the agenda that will put us in a box.
Not them.