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laughingheart

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A study of 80 people that this fellow screenshot from Fox news is not credible. I am not saying he is wrong but you cannot extrapolate a one size fits all cure with this. He couldn't even say the name of the third drug and said he hadn't even read it yet. Hadn't even read it? How could he responsibly offer it as a cure when he has done no research. Who is the doctor who did such a small case study? I am not in any way criticizing you Silverwings for sharing. Please know this but this Dr. is not being responsible in his endorsement of studies and news clips that he hasn't researched. We all want a cure but this disease is morphing. It has started out as attack the lungs and it is now throwing blood clots and destroying kidneys and heart muscles. That changes what is safe to administer. It is great for him to say that there is hope with potential treatments but it is irresponsible of his to use the word cure. Bless you Silverwings for looking to bring hope.
 

PennEd

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I listened to the Dr. who had massive success using a combination, on Dennis Prager's radio show about a month ago.

He explained that ZINC prevents the virus from multiplying in cells. The problem is, the zinc can't penetrate the cell walls. It's HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE that "opens" a pathway for the zinc to enter the cells and do it's job. The azythromycin antibiotic is for infections that may result from the original infection.

The study you cited, and the MSM constantly bashing this treatment, seems to ALWAYS leave the zinc component out of the equation. Probably because they want to further the narrative that Trump was wrong, and to promote Faucis drug, that is expensive, and way less effective.
 

Nehemiah6

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The study you cited, and the MSM constantly bashing this treatment, seems to ALWAYS leave the zinc component out of the equation. Probably because they want to further the narrative that Trump was wrong, and to promote Faucis drug, that is expensive, and way less effective.
Frankly I am totally shocked by the fact that Fake Fauci has not been fired by Trump. He has been wrong all along, and he is still in the limelight. This is going to cost Trump hugely. And even Ron Paul did not go far enough with his criticism of Fauci. In fact, a NY Times reporter called for the firing of the CDC director and was then rebuked for saying what is right.

However, you are quite correct in confirming that Dr. Zelenko's combination of hydroxychloroquine + arithromycin + zinc sulfate has produced almost 100% recovery. But because Fauci, Gilead, and Gates stand to rake in millions with Remdesivir, and they have all been in collusion with the media, hydroxychloroquine has been bashed by almost everyone. Once again the conspirators are playing with the health of people.
 

Subhumanoidal

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TDS and you can't help it ? Or just dark and eternal pessimistic ?
Just see you obsess over one thing constantly. Always with the same singular comment, no matter the topic.
 

MattforJesus

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I believe they are using the coronavirus as an excuse to give people a vaccine so they can track people, and to monitor the coronavirus, which will lead them to a better tracking system for people will be more accepting of it.

Donald Trump introduced a biometric tracking system for those people on temporary visas that will be able to track people, land, sea, and air, because of all the people coming in the United States with temporary visas and do not leave and they have no way to track them, and 911 could of been avoided.

Foreign nationals arriving on temporary visas continue to go largely untracked by the federal government despite The 9/11 Commission Report pleading with the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) to implement a nationwide biometric entry-exit system, which would identify legal immigrants who have overstayed their visas and help in deporting them.

Which will be something placed just under the skin linked to satellite that can be scanned, and a tracking system that will help to cut down on crime.

Scientists are trying to find a cure for the coronavirus, and are thinking about nanotechnology.

Which the nanoparticles will attach to the virus and immobolize it and stop it from producing.

Nanoparticles and nanostructured materials have significant impact in many scientific fields, including chemistry, material sciences, physics, medicine and electronics.

Since the invention of the electron microscope they been able to explore and manipulate the properties of nanoparticles.

Future bio-nanotechnology will use computer chips inside living cells.

They will probably say they tried this, and they tried that of conventional medicine, but it does not work, or not as good as they like so they can give them a vaccine with nanoparticles in them, which Bill Gates wants everyone to be vaccinated.

And they are covering all the bases to make it appear as terrible, and getting worse, so there is no escape but everybody get the vaccine.

For they are ready to start implementing their plan with no reverting back but going ahead starting with the coronavirus.

The plan is to establish the new age movement in the world, and produce the New Age Christ, which evolution is religion, and people are still evolving to be greater and spiritual with no personal God above them.

Russia and America, and Republican and Democrat will start cooperating with each other for they were working together the whole time.

The Hegel System, sets up 2 opposing forces for it gets everyone involved then cooperation of the 2 opposing forces which brings them together.

Controlled conflict brings about controlled change.

And after 200 years of this plan that was slowly being implemented the leaders of the world know what is going on, but they have to convince the people.

Which the Hegel System makes it appear as if there is no plan going on for they are opposing each other, but then they cooperate because of conflicts and the people think it is the best thing to do.

They believe the New Age Christ will not help them until the nations come together as one to work for peace on earth, so they are pursuing that.

And the New Age Christ will establish peace in the Middle East in which President Trump is pushing for peace in the Middle East more than any other president.

But Democrats and Republicans are working together, like Russia and America, for only by the 2 opposing forces can they get all nations to come together.

They will probably use nanotechnology in the vaccine so they can start tracking people which will get the people used to having a chip in them, and being tracked, to lead them to a better tracking system a chip just under the skin linked to satellite which is President Trump's biometric system to cut down on crime, find lost people, and things run smoother.

The 1200 dollars stimulus check, and might be another one, and 600 dollars added to unemployment, is probably a pattern for a basic income to be implemented in the world when the nations come together.

That would cause the people of the world to like the idea of the nations coming together for their needs will be met, and support of the people which is what they want.

And America might be the ones that distributes a vaccine in the world further looking good in the eyes of the world, which Johnson and Johnson, and others will pump out massive dosages of the vaccine for the world.

And money is no object to the people of the new age movement plan for evolving to be greater and spiritual is greater than money, and they do not need money when they are spiritual.

So they will use all the money they have to cause this to happen, and many billionaires in on the plan, and rich people.

The plan is 2 steps forward, 1 step back, 2 steps forward, 1 step back, 2 steps forward, but they get to their destination, and now they are going to move forward and the nations will come together, and the New Age Christ will be working in the world so they can evolve to be greater and spiritual, for evolution is religion.
 

bojack

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I believe they are using the coronavirus as an excuse to give people a vaccine so they can track people, and to monitor the coronavirus, which will lead them to a better tracking system for people will be more accepting of it.

Donald Trump introduced a biometric tracking system for those people on temporary visas that will be able to track people, land, sea, and air, because of all the people coming in the United States with temporary visas and do not leave and they have no way to track them, and 911 could of been avoided.

Foreign nationals arriving on temporary visas continue to go largely untracked by the federal government despite The 9/11 Commission Report pleading with the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) to implement a nationwide biometric entry-exit system, which would identify legal immigrants who have overstayed their visas and help in deporting them.

Which will be something placed just under the skin linked to satellite that can be scanned, and a tracking system that will help to cut down on crime.

Scientists are trying to find a cure for the coronavirus, and are thinking about nanotechnology.

Which the nanoparticles will attach to the virus and immobolize it and stop it from producing.

Nanoparticles and nanostructured materials have significant impact in many scientific fields, including chemistry, material sciences, physics, medicine and electronics.

Since the invention of the electron microscope they been able to explore and manipulate the properties of nanoparticles.

Future bio-nanotechnology will use computer chips inside living cells.

They will probably say they tried this, and they tried that of conventional medicine, but it does not work, or not as good as they like so they can give them a vaccine with nanoparticles in them, which Bill Gates wants everyone to be vaccinated.

And they are covering all the bases to make it appear as terrible, and getting worse, so there is no escape but everybody get the vaccine.

For they are ready to start implementing their plan with no reverting back but going ahead starting with the coronavirus.

The plan is to establish the new age movement in the world, and produce the New Age Christ, which evolution is religion, and people are still evolving to be greater and spiritual with no personal God above them.

Russia and America, and Republican and Democrat will start cooperating with each other for they were working together the whole time.

The Hegel System, sets up 2 opposing forces for it gets everyone involved then cooperation of the 2 opposing forces which brings them together.

Controlled conflict brings about controlled change.

And after 200 years of this plan that was slowly being implemented the leaders of the world know what is going on, but they have to convince the people.

Which the Hegel System makes it appear as if there is no plan going on for they are opposing each other, but then they cooperate because of conflicts and the people think it is the best thing to do.

They believe the New Age Christ will not help them until the nations come together as one to work for peace on earth, so they are pursuing that.

And the New Age Christ will establish peace in the Middle East in which President Trump is pushing for peace in the Middle East more than any other president.

But Democrats and Republicans are working together, like Russia and America, for only by the 2 opposing forces can they get all nations to come together.

They will probably use nanotechnology in the vaccine so they can start tracking people which will get the people used to having a chip in them, and being tracked, to lead them to a better tracking system a chip just under the skin linked to satellite which is President Trump's biometric system to cut down on crime, find lost people, and things run smoother.

The 1200 dollars stimulus check, and might be another one, and 600 dollars added to unemployment, is probably a pattern for a basic income to be implemented in the world when the nations come together.

That would cause the people of the world to like the idea of the nations coming together for their needs will be met, and support of the people which is what they want.

And America might be the ones that distributes a vaccine in the world further looking good in the eyes of the world, which Johnson and Johnson, and others will pump out massive dosages of the vaccine for the world.

And money is no object to the people of the new age movement plan for evolving to be greater and spiritual is greater than money, and they do not need money when they are spiritual.

So they will use all the money they have to cause this to happen, and many billionaires in on the plan, and rich people.

The plan is 2 steps forward, 1 step back, 2 steps forward, 1 step back, 2 steps forward, but they get to their destination, and now they are going to move forward and the nations will come together, and the New Age Christ will be working in the world so they can evolve to be greater and spiritual, for evolution is religion.
Yes and it was mandated by Dec 31 2016 through Obama Care but it got put off .. Obama had abstained on the vote in favor of Israel which was same as a vote against Israel for the first time , all the trade deals were about in effect further giving our sovereignty away , the industrial business and operating regulations piling up on companies, the open borders , wealth transfer and taxes , everything detrimental to our nation imo and Hilary was right on schedule and thanks to God He intervened ..
I knew it was bad but I never realized it was to the degree it was and so much more has been exposed that I really didn't want to believe .. Even John McCain who ran against Obama Care got off his bed in the hospital to go vote for it in the senate .. The deciding vote .. Just to name a few .. Unbelievable ..
 

bojack

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Just see you obsess over one thing constantly. Always with the same singular comment, no matter the topic.
Yes , your name sets your tone and precedes you every time .. Bwahahaha ..
Take your last shot, I'm done Bro, you are a Christian , Right ?
 

Nehemiah6

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Frankly I am totally shocked by the fact that Fake Fauci has not been fired by Trump. He has been wrong all along, and he is still in the limelight.
More on Fake Fauci. While Trump seems to be mesmerized by this Fraud. If readers will recall, I was calling for the firing of Fauci a long time ago, yet we had some posters trying to come to his defense.

FAUCI’S FOLLIES:
36.5 Million Americans Unemployed Since March for Virus that Kills Less than 0.1% of Children and Working Age Adults


Nearly 3 million Americans filed initial jobless claims this week bringing the total to 36.5 million lost jobs since Dr. Fauci’s lockdown was implemented in March.

** Dr. Tony Fauci and Dr. Deborah Birx used the Imperial College Model to persuade President Trump to lock down the ENTIRE US ECONOMY.
** The fraudulent model predicted 2.2 million American deaths from the coronavirus pandemic
** The authors of the Imperial College Model shared their findings with the White House Coronavirus task force in early March
** Dr. Fauci and Dr. Birx then met with President Trump privately and urged him to shut down the US economy and destroy the record Trump economy based on this model
** A new critique of the Imperial College Model finds the study is “completely unusable for scientific purposes” — The study is a complete sham
** Dr. Fauci and Dr. Birx pushed a garbage model on the White House and the American public and destroyed the US economy


As reported weeks ago — in mid April Dr. Fauci admitted that it was he and Dr. Birx who persuaded President Trump to lock down the US economy knowing the massive destruction this would cause in jobs, lives and commerce. President admitted that during a press conference in April that “two very smart people” came into his office and urged him to lock down the economy or 2.2 million Americans would die from the China virus.

But President Trump did not say who those “two very smart people” were.
President Trump:
The big projection being that 2.2 million people would die if we did nothing. That was another decision we made, close it up. That was a big decision that we made. Two very smart people walked into my office and said listen these are your alternatives. And that was a projection of 1.5 to 2.2 million people would die if we didn’t close it up. That’s a lot of people.

Dr. Fauci later admitted he persuaded the president to shut down and kill off the US economy.


And now we know the model he used to shutdown the economy was a fraud.
This guy has been wrong every step of the way.


And now as numbers continue to come in we see that at least 39% or 31,900 coronavirus deaths were at nursing homes. And we also now understand that like other countries the average coronavirus death is someone close to 80-years-old. Children and working adults are less likely to succomb to the coronavirusthan to a typical seasonal flu bug.

In a sane world Dr. Fauci would be fired and prosecuted for perpetrating such a fraud against the government.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...s-kills-less-0-1-children-working-age-adults/
 

Lanolin

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vaccines arent used to track ppl if you have your own smartphone the cloud can track you anywhere.
So I wouldnt be worrying about whether or not to have a vacinne or not,,,its up to you.

Most people want to have immunity from these things why cos they work with others or have children they want to see grow up ya know.
 

Lanolin

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Im pretty sure it was the americans who put men on the moon and they were the ones mostly responsible for satellite tracking systems lol.
 

bojack

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vaccines arent used to track ppl if you have your own smartphone the cloud can track you anywhere.
So I wouldnt be worrying about whether or not to have a vacinne or not,,,its up to you.

Most people want to have immunity from these things why cos they work with others or have children they want to see grow up ya know.
Haven't you heard Bill Gates Wants to put a tracking device to indentify where all the vaccinated are at any time ..
 

bojack

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More on Fake Fauci. While Trump seems to be mesmerized by this Fraud. If readers will recall, I was calling for the firing of Fauci a long time ago, yet we had some posters trying to come to his defense.

FAUCI’S FOLLIES:
36.5 Million Americans Unemployed Since March for Virus that Kills Less than 0.1% of Children and Working Age Adults


Nearly 3 million Americans filed initial jobless claims this week bringing the total to 36.5 million lost jobs since Dr. Fauci’s lockdown was implemented in March.

** Dr. Tony Fauci and Dr. Deborah Birx used the Imperial College Model to persuade President Trump to lock down the ENTIRE US ECONOMY.
** The fraudulent model predicted 2.2 million American deaths from the coronavirus pandemic
** The authors of the Imperial College Model shared their findings with the White House Coronavirus task force in early March
** Dr. Fauci and Dr. Birx then met with President Trump privately and urged him to shut down the US economy and destroy the record Trump economy based on this model
** A new critique of the Imperial College Model finds the study is “completely unusable for scientific purposes” — The study is a complete sham
** Dr. Fauci and Dr. Birx pushed a garbage model on the White House and the American public and destroyed the US economy


As reported weeks ago — in mid April Dr. Fauci admitted that it was he and Dr. Birx who persuaded President Trump to lock down the US economy knowing the massive destruction this would cause in jobs, lives and commerce. President admitted that during a press conference in April that “two very smart people” came into his office and urged him to lock down the economy or 2.2 million Americans would die from the China virus.

But President Trump did not say who those “two very smart people” were.
President Trump:
The big projection being that 2.2 million people would die if we did nothing. That was another decision we made, close it up. That was a big decision that we made. Two very smart people walked into my office and said listen these are your alternatives. And that was a projection of 1.5 to 2.2 million people would die if we didn’t close it up. That’s a lot of people.

Dr. Fauci later admitted he persuaded the president to shut down and kill off the US economy.

And now we know the model he used to shutdown the economy was a fraud.
This guy has been wrong every step of the way.


And now as numbers continue to come in we see that at least 39% or 31,900 coronavirus deaths were at nursing homes. And we also now understand that like other countries the average coronavirus death is someone close to 80-years-old. Children and working adults are less likely to succomb to the coronavirusthan to a typical seasonal flu bug.

In a sane world Dr. Fauci would be fired and prosecuted for perpetrating such a fraud against the government.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...s-kills-less-0-1-children-working-age-adults/
So far it's been Trumps MO to be patient at times and give them a little rope to trap the whole bunch , some he fires right away .. And remember the story about the young bull talking to the old bull about the all cows down in the pasture ? There's been a lot of widespread investigations going on and on a lot of people .. Why worry about knocking one tooth out if they have 31 left, get them all .. Have you ever heard of Paul Bonacci ? His testimony is that he was kidnapped and trained by MK Ultra under his controller through Micheal Aquino to be a child prostitute for the purpose of blackmailing important men, then join the service for 6 yrs as an officer then Ambassador for Germany then come out and run for senator according to his testimony . We only know what we're told and have to put the pieces together .. The kid began regaining his memory of different personalities a while ago .. He even spoke about taken under ground , drugged and made to believe he was on spaceships with aliens .. Almost too much to be true .. When the interviewer would ask him certain questions he would began to breath heavy , hesitate and really look like he was struggling ..
It is my understanding that many, many children were kidnapped and never heard of again in the US .. Trump seems to be motivated to stop the human traffickers and I think Ivanka plays an official role .. I don't know with all the desperate opposition throwing their fake news smokes screens in every direction , it's hard to comb' through .. I had heard there was some freaky stuff on Weiners laptop from the NYPD .. I know if it was me I would have started ringing necks 3 yrs ago and probably just scratched the surface is all, but I still think after 35yrs of praying Jesus raised up Trump for this job , he's not special just the man for the job imo .. And I thank Jesus and pray for Trump ..
 

Absolutely

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A study of 80 people that this fellow screenshot from Fox news is not credible. I am not saying he is wrong but you cannot extrapolate a one size fits all cure with this. He couldn't even say the name of the third drug and said he hadn't even read it yet. Hadn't even read it? How could he responsibly offer it as a cure when he has done no research. Who is the doctor who did such a small case study? I am not in any way criticizing you Silverwings for sharing. Please know this but this Dr. is not being responsible in his endorsement of studies and news clips that he hasn't researched. We all want a cure but this disease is morphing. It has started out as attack the lungs and it is now throwing blood clots and destroying kidneys and heart muscles. That changes what is safe to administer. It is great for him to say that there is hope with potential treatments but it is irresponsible of his to use the word cure. Bless you Silverwings for looking to bring hope.
Baloney
We have known for some time the hydroxycloroquine works alongside zinc.
 

Nehemiah6

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Baloney
We have known for some time the hydroxycloroquine works alongside zinc.
Correct. But Fauci is working to undermine Trump and DELIBERATELY undermine hydroxychloroquine by OMITTING ZINC SULFATE from NIH trials. That is called sabotage and treason. See the article below for confirmation.

New Hydroxychloroquine Trial Could Be Destined to Fail

BY STACEY LENNOX MAY 14, 2020

The politicization of hydroxychloroquine has been one of the most frustrating aspects of Trump Derangement Syndrome during this pandemic. Early studies in France and clinical outcomes from multiple treating physicians using a combination therapy that included the drug provided hope to combat the virus. However, it made President Trump hopeful, so it had to be obliterated.


Crappy studies of the drug given to the most severe patients were touted as proof the president was wrong. Then there was Fish Tank Cleaner Gate. This is the problem with political reporters covering press briefings about a pandemic. They either aren’t provided an internet connection by their employers or are too lazy to do 15 minutes of research.

Now, the NIH has finally announced it will begin a clinical trial using hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin in COVID-19 patients with mild to moderate symptoms. Every clinician who has advocated hydroxychloroquine-azithromycin has said this is the appropriate stage of the disease to use the drug combination. Dr. Vladimir Zelenko began giving it to diagnosed and presumed COVID-19 patients during a severe outbreak in New Rochelle, New York. He started the drug when patients were suffering from mild shortness of breath.

Dr. Anthony Cardillo also explained how he effectively used the drug. His method was to give the medicine with azithromycin and zinc for a specific biological reason. This mineral needs to be added to the NIH trial based on volumes of scientific research on how it works in combination with hydroxychloroquine. Cardillo explained it succinctly: “It was actually the hydroxychloroquine opening up a channel in the cellular membranes allowing zinc to come into the cells,” he said, “And we do know high levels of zinc inside of the cell that’s infected with the virus shuts down that viral replication machinery.”

The reaction to hydroxychloroquine was very perplexing. The NIH studied drug’s older cousin chloroquine following the SARS epidemic. In 2005 the NIH noted chloroquine had both prophylactic effects for prevention and anti-viral effects in cell cultures:

Conclusion
Chloroquine is effective in preventing the spread of SARS CoV in cell culture. Favorable inhibition of virus spread was observed when the cells were either treated with chloroquine prior to or after SARS CoV infection. In addition, the indirect immunofluorescence assay described herein represents a simple and rapid method for screening SARS-CoV antiviral compounds.


Because of how the drug works, especially in combination with zinc, Dr. Anthony Fauci’s inability to articulate the clinical case for exploring it was quite odd. His own agency had investigated chloroquine in a dozen ways following the SARS outbreak. It makes logical sense if chloroquine could inhibit viruses in vitro that its lower-risk cousin would have a similar effect. The science was always on the president’s side for use of the three-drug combination in the early course of illness. Fauci’s inability to articulate it was maddening and, in my own opinion, quite suspicious.

In the press release for the NIH’s new hydroxychloroquine study, Dr. Fauci offers a rationale for the new trial: “We urgently need a safe and effective treatment for COVID-19. Repurposing existing drugs is an attractive option because these medications have undergone extensive testing, allowing them to move quickly into clinical trials and accelerating their potential approval for COVID-19 treatment,” said NIAID Director Anthony S. Fauci, M.D. “Although there is anecdotal evidence that hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin may benefit people with COVID-19, we need solid data from a large randomized, controlled clinical trial to determine whether this experimental treatment is safe and can improve clinical outcomes.” [Note: Fauci lied by saying "anecdotal evidence" and then failing to mention zinc]

I agree wholeheartedly. With a background and education in health care, I would be loath to take a drug that is not at least 10 years old and preferably a generic. By then all side effects are known, the class action suits have started, and you know it doesn’t have a black box warning. I’d prefer this cocktail to the new drug Remdesivir any day of the week based on age and previous usage. [Note: Fauci has a financial interest in Remdesivir]

However, every clinician who has shared his or her success in treating patients early emphasized the role of zinc. Hydroxychloroquine holds the door to the cell open so zinc can run inside and stop the virus from making photocopies of itself. They work together to stop the viral load from increasing so the patient’s own immune system has a better shot. The NIH trial does not include the mineral. This requires some explanation given what the NIH already knows.

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politi...quine-trial-could-be-destined-to-fail-n392407