Hotel Replaces Bible With '50 Shades of Grey'!!

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Nautilus

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is this really news/important?
 

Katy-follower

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is this really news/important?
If this doesn't interest you then why read and post here?

Many of us Christians are actually interested in what's going on in the world, particularly when it comes to removal of all things Godly. Things like banning Christian jewelry in the work place to the removal of bibles and mention of God in schools. Now, hotels catching on and replacing bibles with porn novels.

Evil is escalating and it just goes to show we are close to the end times as all these things get worse and worse.
 

Nautilus

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im just saying most people dont seem like they read those bibles anyways. Christians who stay at the hotel probably already brought their own copy of the bible and another one is redundant. The random person that stays in a hotel who isnt christian? probably unlikely to read it at all. So i guess they figure 50 shades of grey would be used more, i mean maybe a young married couple stays there, reads it, and it adds to their marriage.
 
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im just saying most people dont seem like they read those bibles anyways. Christians who stay at the hotel probably already brought their own copy of the bible and another one is redundant. The random person that stays in a hotel who isnt christian? probably unlikely to read it at all. So i guess they figure 50 shades of grey would be used more, i mean maybe a young married couple stays there, reads it, and it adds to their marriage.
'fifty shades of grey' is a thinly veiled story of pedophilia...so i don't see how that would improve anyone's marriage...if anything it would probably introduce some pathological mindsets...
 
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'fifty shades of grey' is a thinly veiled story of pedophilia...so i don't see how that would improve anyone's marriage...if anything it would probably introduce some pathological mindsets...
Although I have not read the book, I was just reading the wiki, and the fictional characters involved are listed as 22 and 27, that is hardly pedophilia.

It's a book about having fun sinning, and that's bad enough, but I don't know where you come up with that strong accusation.
 
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Although I have not read the book, I was just reading the wiki, and the fictional characters involved are listed as 22 and 27, that is hardly pedophilia.

It's a book about having fun sinning, and that's bad enough, but I don't know where you come up with that strong accusation.
i have done my research on this book...the given age of the female protagonist is just the literary version of a fake ID...

we can start with the fact that 'fifty shades of grey' originally began as a 'fan fiction' about the characters in the twilight series...which was basically written as a teenage romance...with bella being underage in the first book while her love interest is over 100 years old... the twilight fan fiction only became 'fifty shades of grey' because the overt sexualization of the twilight characters in the author's fan fiction was causing a stir...

but to get to the book itself...the female protagonist has the personality of a child...she is all pigtails and cartwheels and skipping...when she is upset she uses elementary school level 'bad words' like 'double crap'...she is so inexperienced that she can't even work a computer...sexually speaking she is naive to the point that -everything- has to be explained to her...using analogies with 'popsicles' and so forth...she even has an imaginary friend that she calls her 'inner goddess'...at one point the male character even -tells- her that she is a child...

she has all the innocence of a child and the male character takes that innocence from her and then some...he 'grooms' her and defiles her in the same way pedophiles are known to groom their victims for abuse...

the author claims that her character is an adult...but minus the artificial back story the character is in every way an early teenager and immature even for that age...the author has simply given her a fake ID...

to top it all off there is the bizarre statement from the two main characters that their unborn child 'likes sex already'...given all the other disturbing aspects of the story this can't be dismissed as just an off color remark...
 

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the characters in the story are 22 and 27, you can attempt all the pseudo-pschoanalytical analysis on fictional charcters that you want, but it doesnt disprove the written word. Besides that still doesnt necessarily refute my idea that the novel may not be all bad.
 
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i have done my research on this book...the given age of the female protagonist is just the literary version of a fake ID...

we can start with the fact that 'fifty shades of grey' originally began as a 'fan fiction' about the characters in the twilight series...which was basically written as a teenage romance...with bella being underage in the first book while her love interest is over 100 years old... the twilight fan fiction only became 'fifty shades of grey' because the overt sexualization of the twilight characters in the author's fan fiction was causing a stir...
A letter written by a CPS woman who never read the books hardly counts as "research."

E.L. James RE-WROTE "Fifty Shades" and created its own original characters and settings. She made it into its own separate entity. And the reality is getting inspired by other literary works is what writers do. I give her kudos for breaking out of fan fiction and using that inspiration to create her own trilogy, which is now worlds apart from "Twilight," and its own entity. Also, Bella was 17 in the beginning Twilight which is the legal age of consent in Washington, the location the story takes place, so there are no pedophilia origins to begin with.

Also, it doesn't matter how determined some people are to make it into pedophilia, the characters in the story are adults. Period. It's a story of sexual awakening within a dominant/submissive relationship, and people who haven't read or aren't familiar with how the dom/sub genre of "bodice busters" works need to familiarize themselves before making such accusations.
 
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ok so...if you are somewhere...and a girl is there who is -obviously- a minor...looks underage...talks like an underage girl...acts like an underage girl...but her fake ID that doesn't really look that much like her says she is an adult...it is ok for her to go home with a twenty-something year old guy who is hitting on her?

does giving an obviously fake age make someone an adult?

and neither of you commented on the book's sexualization of an unborn baby...what excuse do you have for making that ok?
 
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ok so...if you are somewhere...and a girl is there who is -obviously- a minor...looks underage...talks like an underage girl...acts like an underage girl...but her fake ID that doesn't really look that much like her says she is an adult...it is ok for her to go home with a twenty-something year old guy who is hitting on her?
No because that actually involves someone who IS underage. It's a subtle difference, I know.

does giving an obviously fake age make someone an adult?
You're approaching this as though you have control of the writer's universe that she's created and somehow have the ability to deem her characters that she created as "underage." It is not your written work, it is not your universe, and therefore it is not your rules. It's E. L. James' universe, her characters, and therefore her rules. If she wrote the main characters are in their 20's then the main characters ARE in their 20's. They aren't whatever age you feel they should be, they are what they are. If you feel they aren't written to match that age bracket, then blame it on bad writing (the novels after all aren't exactly revered for their stellar writing quality. It's the taboo subject of S&M that drew fame to them). It still doesn't change the actual ages of the characters.

and neither of you commented on the book's sexualization of an unborn baby...what excuse do you have for making that ok?
The part you're referring to is when one of the main characters makes a joke that their unborn baby "must really love sex." I personally read it to mean he was talking about how their child will grow up to be like them considering how much by that point it's been established that Mommy and Daddy like sex and don't really do much else with their lives. I didn't read it as pedophilia, just really really stupid writing, as did many who read the book. However I can see how it could be taken that way, and while I'm sure it wasn't intended to, it's a really stupid line that pretty much deserves whatever flack it gets.
 

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Vikkikate pretty much said it all, youre looking and assuming far too much from a book that focuses mainly on BDSM and not much else.
 
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I have even heard another Hotel removing the bibles and replacing them with "intimacy kits." Very sad.
 

Nautilus

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I have even heard another Hotel removing the bibles and replacing them with "intimacy kits." Very sad.
Meh maybe couples want to have sex on vacation, im still not seeing an issue. Again i doubt those bibles ever see use, its not like they are banning bibles. Removing something rarely used for something the hotel can possibly make money off of is called a business decision.
 
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im just saying most people dont seem like they read those bibles anyways. Christians who stay at the hotel probably already brought their own copy of the bible and another one is redundant. The random person that stays in a hotel who isnt christian? probably unlikely to read it at all
I came back to God after backsliding for many years. I was staying in a hotel and started reading the bible for the first time in ages. You never know when God will draw a person and use the bible when it's available.

Anyone could be in a hotel room, someone that has reached a low point, a person who is suicidal, for example, or just a non believer that God drew to start reading it.

Romans 10:17: "So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God"

The world is Satan's dominion. He wants to remove all things Godly. He doesn't want anyone to be saved. He hates the truth and knows that God's word is powerful like a sword. People in the world are under the influence of Satan hence why we see evil escalating right now. This is the end times. We've been told it will continue to get worse even to the point that hearts will grow cold because of all the evil.
 
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I see no problem with the book itself, people can choose to read it or ignore it. I don't see the need to remove the bible though.
 
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Every girl I know has read the book. It's a best seller. I don't see anything wrong with a hotel wanting to please its clients by providing probably the most popular novel right now. It's a private company and they're doing what they want with their business.
 
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Replacing the bible with pornography... is anyone actually surprised by this?


Psalm 11


1In the Lord I take refuge.
How then can you say to me:
“Flee like a bird to your mountain.
2 For look, the wicked bend their bows;
they set their arrows against the strings
to shoot from the shadows
at the upright in heart.
3 When the foundations are being destroyed,
what can the righteous do?”
4 The Lord is in his holy temple;
the Lord is on his heavenly throne.
He observes everyone on earth;
his eyes examine them.
5The Lord examines the righteous,
but the wicked, those who love violence,
he hates with a passion.
6 On the wicked he will rain
fiery coals and burning sulfur;
a scorching wind will be their lot.

7 For the Lord is righteous,
he loves justice;
the upright will see his face.


Psalm 12
Help, Lord, for the godly man ceases to be,
For the faithful disappear from among the sons of men.
2 They speak [b]falsehood to one another;
With flattering [c]lips and with a double heart they speak.
3 May the Lord cut off all flattering lips,
The tongue that speaks great things;
4 Who have said, “With our tongue we will prevail;
Our lips are [d]our own; who is lord over us?”
5 “Because of the devastation of the afflicted, because of the groaning of the needy,
Now I will arise,” says the Lord; “I will set him in the safety for which he longs.”
6 The words of the Lord are pure words;
As silver tried in a furnace on the earth, refined seven times.
7 You, O Lord, will keep them;
You will preserve him from this generation forever.
8 The wicked strut about on every side
When [e]vileness is exalted among the sons of men.





Amen.
 
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