Im not Catholic but he makes a good point.

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Bjornke

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Elizabeth619 said:
yeah good point
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The upper echelons of the church leaders tried to cover it up, they are themselves individuals not the church. Do you think every Sunday mass goer was involved? The catholic church itself is not responsible as the church is far more than just the 0.01% of the people in the entire community in the know trying to cover it up?

Edit: on phone meant to quote nautilus
 
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PsalmsfortheLord

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Should this be a new idea to the Catholic Church of Roman Catholicism? For as I know of any Church body the Catholics are like a Government of their own body with the ranks of the Pope, Cardinal, Bishop and so on how they maintain their own Church laws and how members should abide them. It is no surprise the Catholic Church would do this voting in Unity.

But if they are smart in this issue they would vote for Mitt Romney because a Christian or a Catholic is not good under the Obama administration. Obama is pursuing taking away rights from Christians and Catholics for what we have been practicing for centuries. As if the US Government has supreme authority of the Church body. Obama has been in favor of Secularists, Atheists, Agnostics, New age religion and Islamic believers. These are the people Obama represent. These are the issues Obama stands for.

[FONT=&quot]Obama is nothing about being a Christian or Catholic beliefs in much any way at all. Obama’s choices have not much to do with issues concerned by Christians or Catholics namely Abortion for one example. Helping the Elderly and the poor is another. Obama is not help to the needy as Christian and Catholics try to be helpful to the needy. Why vote for Obama who has not love for the people of [/FONT][FONT=&quot]America[/FONT][FONT=&quot]? A man who simply wants votes with a democratic party and who almost got rid of the name of God recently. Democrats stay on Humanistic ideas and issues they fight for. Whenever it has to do with God they will rebel against it unless it compromises with Human laws. Obama wants God and the Bible to bow to him and the democratic party. That God should be lower than them. So if these Catholics want to keep their rights they should stick with Mitt Romney who wants us to practice our Faith in God. Romney wants us to keep God on our money in our pledge of allegiance and for every Church to practice their faith. If you vote for Obama and you are a Christian watch and see your freedoms of being a Christian or Catholic is going to erode quickly. Mitt may be a Mormon but he is not pursuing to take away your own Christian Church or your beliefs. Mitt seems to be much focused on this failing economy more than anything. Vote for Mitt Romney 2012 November because if Obama wins again [/FONT][FONT=&quot]America[/FONT][FONT=&quot] has lost greatly. We will go down like the Titanic did in 1912.[/FONT]
 
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PsalmsfortheLord said:
Should this be a new idea to the Catholic Church of Roman Catholicism? For as I know of any Church body the Catholics are like a Government of their own body with the ranks of the Pope, Cardinal, Bishop and so on how they maintain their own Church laws and how members should abide them. It is no surprise the Catholic Church would do this voting in Unity.

But if they are smart in this issue they would vote for Mitt Romney because a Christian or a Catholic is not good under the Obama administration. Obama is pursuing taking away rights from Christians and Catholics for what we have been practicing for centuries. As if the US Government has supreme authority of the Church body. Obama has been in favor of Secularists, Atheists, Agnostics, New age religion and Islamic believers. These are the people Obama represent. These are the issues Obama stands for.

[FONT=&quot]Obama is nothing about being a Christian or Catholic beliefs in much any way at all. Obama’s choices have not much to do with issues concerned by Christians or Catholics namely Abortion for one example. Helping the Elderly and the poor is another. Obama is not help to the needy as Christian and Catholics try to be helpful to the needy. Why vote for Obama who has not love for the people of [/FONT][FONT=&quot]America[/FONT][FONT=&quot]? A man who simply wants votes with a democratic party and who almost got rid of the name of God recently. Democrats stay on Humanistic ideas and issues they fight for. Whenever it has to do with God they will rebel against it unless it compromises with Human laws. Obama wants God and the Bible to bow to him and the democratic party. That God should be lower than them. So if these Catholics want to keep their rights they should stick with Mitt Romney who wants us to practice our Faith in God. Romney wants us to keep God on our money in our pledge of allegiance and for every Church to practice their faith. If you vote for Obama and you are a Christian watch and see your freedoms of being a Christian or Catholic is going to erode quickly. Mitt may be a Mormon but he is not pursuing to take away your own Christian Church or your beliefs. Mitt seems to be much focused on this failing economy more than anything. Vote for Mitt Romney 2012 November because if Obama wins again [/FONT][FONT=&quot]America[/FONT][FONT=&quot] has lost greatly. We will go down like the Titanic did in 1912.[/FONT]
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Well good thing again that he is running for president and not pastor.
 
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If God really hates Catholicism then why did he ever allow it to flourish for almost 1000 years? Why are there so many Catholics? If God is so powerful do you not think he would have already destroyed Catholicism and all of its "lies"?

I'm not saying Catholicism is perfect or is the true Church as I am an Eastern Orthodox Christian, but there is enough truth in Catholicism to where it can stand in God's sight.
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There is no if, he is all powerful and Almighty forever.

And have you not read the Bible? It will be destroyed.. while people prefer the darkness it will flourish.


catholicism is playing its part leading to the Harvest.

All things come to good and for his Glory..
 
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carolineh said:
Those who held to Solar scruptura started at the time of Jesus...Catholicism came much much later...Protestants like the Lord Jesus hold to Soar scriptura
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Hah, yeah... Especially since, you know, the New Testament hadn't been written at that point, a lot of the events described in it had not yet taken place, and the Bible as we know it today did not exist (and would not for a few centuries).

D'oh.

Don't forget the fact that almost everything you've said here has all been part of one giant ad hominem.
 
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