Is God Moving In Ukraine?

[Roughsoul1991]

Russian troops attacked other Russian troops early Friday, destroying nine tanks and four armored vehicles in the “friendly fire” incident, according to the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

“Just now in the Kiev region, near Severinovka, Russian occupation troops started a fight with… Russian occupation forces. As a result, 9 tanks and 4 BTR were destroyed thanks to ‘friendly fire,’

the ground forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine said in a Facebook post. “That saved us 13 Javelin accordingly.”

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Joshua 10:10
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10 The Lord threw them into confusion before Israel, so Joshua and the Israelites defeated them completely...

 

[2ndTimothyGroup]

Russian troops attacked other Russian troops early Friday, destroying nine tanks and four armored vehicles in the “friendly fire” incident, according to the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

“Just now in the Kiev region, near Severinovka, Russian occupation troops started a fight with… Russian occupation forces. As a result, 9 tanks and 4 BTR were destroyed thanks to ‘friendly fire,’

the ground forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine said in a Facebook post. “That saved us 13 Javelin accordingly.”

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Joshua 10:10
New International Version

10 The Lord threw them into confusion before Israel, so Joshua and the Israelites defeated them completely...

Nice. The OT is filled with this form of Holy Mind Control. Love it!

 

[Roughsoul1991]

I hear what you're saying, but my personal experience with the government over the last three years has been horrific. I found out that they do not care about the truth, but instead, are using us like batteries that make their machines operate. My experience, which I shall not disclose here, has been so horrific, I found out that what we think and how we feel absolutely . . . do . . . not . . . matter. They used me as a way for the collective group of "elites" to get paid. The government creates issues that generates personal income/employment. Make no mistake about it . . . we're not as free as we want to believe. And just because we have not undergone such travesties certainly doesn't mean that they aren't happening. My advice? Live squeaky clean. Keep your psychological head down. Keep your mouths shut unless we're willing to pay the price. Mind our own business . . . and did I say to live a squeaky clean life?

Again, I hear what you're saying and generally agree. Things are changing, though.

I feel we must be careful when we speak of government in a democratic nation. Essentially we have many different governments on a local, state, and federal level. And these change with each new election. So I honestly see a great many in politics who are Christian and who are fighting to preserve morality. This doesn't mean I ignore the battle of good and evil within the democracy but I still hold the idea that not all is yet lost and there is much still worth fighting for. There is still much good if we search and look around us. The media only wants you to look at the bad but victories and good are happening all the time as well.

 

[2ndTimothyGroup]

The right to THINK FREELY is something that most people historically haven't had. Sadly, we're getting back to an era of thought control, propaganda, censorship, and suppression of dissent. Even in the Western "democracies."

Dude. It's outright denial of Truth established in hard evidence. In my ordeal, I had hundreds pages of documentation to prove who I am and what I'm about. Though they denied the evidence that I had, and once I found out that I had the legal right to present my evidence (though they refused repeatedly to accept it), once they had the evidence they, the government, simply refused to even acknowledge that they had it. We're in trouble. And you're right . . . people are dying because of this stuff. Anyone who was thinking about killing themselves would have done it if they had been put through what I was put through. What the government is capable of, along with those who are affiliated in supporting their cause, is not only shocking, but it is about life and death.

 

[JStates]

Russian troops attacked other Russian troops early Friday, destroying nine tanks and four armored vehicles in the “friendly fire” incident, according to the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

“Just now in the Kiev region, near Severinovka, Russian occupation troops started a fight with… Russian occupation forces. As a result, 9 tanks and 4 BTR were destroyed thanks to ‘friendly fire,’

the ground forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine said in a Facebook post. “That saved us 13 Javelin accordingly.”

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Joshua 10:10
New International Version

10 The Lord threw them into confusion before Israel, so Joshua and the Israelites defeated them completely...

I'll just say be careful. I realized the very extreme levels of propaganda in all this when a week ago, CNN, Fox, and The Gateway Pundit all had different versions of the same story. I think it was these three. (I don't use CNN or Fox - MSM propaganda - but this is a good example of where we are.)

The story was about a military plane crashing into a residential area of Kiev. That was the part the three versions agreed on. One version said a Russian jet had been shot down by Ukrainian air defenses, yay Ukraine! Another version said no, it was a Ukrainian fighter shot down by a Russian jet in a dogfight. Yet another version said it was a Ukrainian jet shot down in a friendly fire incident.

Sadly, a lot of the propaganda is coming directly from government persons in Ukraine. Remember the "Ghost of Kiev" propaganda story that a Ukrainian shot down six Russian fighters in one day? Made up propaganda spread by a Ukrainian politician. And it's STILL being shared by Ukrainian government sources despite having been thoroughly debunked.

Blacklisted News has run a half dozen articles now about various demonstrable propaganda stories, I'd recommend looking through their backlog.

 

[Roughsoul1991]

Nice. The OT is filled with this form of Holy Mind Control. Love it!

Exactly. It is this same type of stuff that was reported by America's founding fathers on how they defeated the world largest army of Great Britain.

Of course, I'm not prophetically speaking that Ukraine will be victories but I can see how this slows the invasion giving 1000s more the opportunity to flee.

 

[JStates]

Exactly. It is this same type of stuff that was reported by America's founding fathers on how they defeated the world largest army of Great Britain.

Of course, I'm not prophetically speaking that Ukraine will be victories but I can see how this slows the invasion giving 1000s more the opportunity to flee.

And that delaying might be the crux of what's going on here. I think a lot of people are really waking up and seeing where all this could go. The slow progression is giving people a chance to get right with God and make some preparations before things really devolve into madness.

 

[2ndTimothyGroup]

I feel we must be careful when we speak of government in a democratic nation. Essentially we have many different governments on a local, state, and federal level. And these change with each new election. So I honestly see a great many in politics who are Christian and who are fighting to preserve morality. This doesn't mean I ignore the battle of good and evil within the democracy but I still hold the idea that not all is yet lost and there is much still worth fighting for. There is still much good if we search and look around us. The media only wants you to look at the bad but victories and good are happening all the time as well.

I hope so. But as for the government, and as I expressed my Faith, my Transformation, and my goals for the community that involved a non-profit organization called the Second Timothy Group . . . all that I offered for myself defense was twisted, turned, and used against me. In Supreme Court, it was said that I claim to "channel God." I've never said such a thing nor do it "channel God" . . . Government workers and affiliates made up a complete fairytale (for a Judge to judge me) so as to label me as one that is crazy or nuts. I wouldn't trust anyone unless they prove they're willing to lay down their life for you, especially if they're government related and those that surround them. This includes lawyers, mental heath facilities, therapists, even doctors, others that might work for senior citizen facilities, guardian ad-litems and police. They are all working together, and this was confirmed by a retired sheriff and former judiciary worker (folks I used to rent from) of 20+ years. It's not good.

 

[Roughsoul1991]

I'll just say be careful. I realized the very extreme levels of propaganda in all this when a week ago, CNN, Fox, and The Gateway Pundit all had different versions of the same story. I think it was these three. (I don't use CNN or Fox - MSM propaganda - but this is a good example of where we are.)

The story was about a military plane crashing into a residential area of Kiev. That was the part the three versions agreed on. One version said a Russian jet had been shot down by Ukrainian air defenses, yay Ukraine! Another version said no, it was a Ukrainian fighter shot down by a Russian jet in a dogfight. Yet another version said it was a Ukrainian jet shot down in a friendly fire incident.

Sadly, a lot of the propaganda is coming directly from government persons in Ukraine. Remember the "Ghost of Kiev" propaganda story that a Ukrainian shot down six Russian fighters in one day? Made up propaganda spread by a Ukrainian politician. And it's STILL being shared by Ukrainian government sources despite having been thoroughly debunked.

Blacklisted News has run a half dozen articles now about various demonstrable propaganda stories, I'd recommend looking through their backlog.

Of course, the first lesson in war is deception. I am not surprised we are seeing lots of propaganda. But we are also seeing lots of conspiracies and anti America propaganda.

Propaganda is deliberately distorting the truth or a complete lie.

We see that but we also see poor journalism as they take a breaking story and add assumptions to the facts.

 

[JStates]

I hope so. But as for the government, and as I expressed my Faith, my Transformation, and my goals for the community that involved a non-profit organization called the Second Timothy Group . . . all that I offered for myself defense was twisted, turned, and used against me. In Supreme Court, it was said that I claim to "channel God." I've never said such a thing nor do it "channel God" . . . Government workers and affiliates made up a complete fairytale (for a Judge to judge me) so as to label me as one that is crazy or nuts. I wouldn't trust anyone unless they prove they're willing to lay down their life for you, especially if they're government related and those that surround them. This includes lawyers, mental heath facilities, therapists, even doctors, others that might work for senior citizen facilities, guardian ad-litems and police. They are all working together, and this was confirmed by a retired sheriff and former judiciary worker (folks I used to rent from) of 20+ years. It's not good.

I think this is why the Bible lays out a principle that believers should generally resolve their disputes in church with Christians presiding over the "case" instead of going to the secular world systems.

Spiritually discerned things are not going to be concluded properly by a secular world.

 

[Roughsoul1991]

And that delaying might be the crux of what's going on here. I think a lot of people are really waking up and seeing where all this could go. The slow progression is giving people a chance to get right with God and make some preparations before things really devolve into madness.

Well I agree that a lot of people are turning to God during these times but I'm also a realist. I don't like to be a pessimist or optimist in less the odds are real. I can not confirm things will evolve to madness not say it won't. So as of now all I know we are to stay ready every minute, every hour, every day.

 

[JStates]

Well I agree that a lot of people are turning to God during these times but I'm also a realist. I don't like to be a pessimist or optimist in less the odds are real. I can not confirm things will evolve to madness not say it won't. So as of now all I know we are to stay ready every minute, every hour, every day.

Admittedly, I'm a bit pessimistic. Comes from being a lifelong student of human nature and a truther, I guess. Most of my understanding of what is coming derives from the Scriptures, and sadly things the last couple years have been moving in a direction that I expected, based on those things I've seen and studied.

That being said, God is longsuffering. Sometimes it takes a long time for things to play out. My worst-case-scenario perception says bad stuff is right around the corner, but it could take decades for it all to come together. So that is something that gives me hope.

And there is ebb and flow to things, times of war, times of peace, little mercies here and there.

Isaiah 14, which talks about the fall of Satan, also talks about a time when God will push back "Satan's children" and give a bit of a reprieve to humanity so that the Luciferians don't overrun the world. Ebb and flow.

 

[Roughsoul1991]

I hope so. But as for the government, and as I expressed my Faith, my Transformation, and my goals for the community that involved a non-profit organization called the Second Timothy Group . . . all that I offered for myself defense was twisted, turned, and used against me. In Supreme Court, it was said that I claim to "channel God." I've never said such a thing nor do it "channel God" . . . Government workers and affiliates made up a complete fairytale (for a Judge to judge me) so as to label me as one that is crazy or nuts. I wouldn't trust anyone unless they prove they're willing to lay down their life for you, especially if they're government related and those that surround them. This includes lawyers, mental heath facilities, therapists, even doctors, others that might work for senior citizen facilities, guardian ad-litems and police. They are all working together, and this was confirmed by a retired sheriff and former judiciary worker (folks I used to rent from) of 20+ years. It's not good.

Was this a local, state or national incident?

 

[Roughsoul1991]

Admittedly, I'm a bit pessimistic. Comes from being a lifelong student of human nature and a truther, I guess. Most of my understanding of what is coming derives from the Scriptures, and sadly things the last couple years have been moving in a direction that I expected, based on those things I've seen and studied.

That being said, God is longsuffering. Sometimes it takes a long time for things to play out. My worst-case-scenario perception says bad stuff is right around the corner, but it could take decades for it all to come together. So that is something that gives me hope.

And there is ebb and flow to things, times of war, times of peace, little mercies here and there.

Isaiah 14, which talks about the fall of Satan, also talks about a time when God will push back "Satan's children" and give a bit of a reprieve to humanity so that the Luciferians don't overrun the world. Ebb and flow.

Ecclesiastes 3:1-8
New International Version

3 There is a time for everything,
and a season for every activity under the heavens:
2 a time to be born and a time to die,
a time to plant and a time to uproot,
3 a time to kill and a time to heal,
a time to tear down and a time to build,
4 a time to weep and a time to laugh,
a time to mourn and a time to dance,
5 a time to scatter stones and a time to gather them,
a time to embrace and a time to refrain from embracing,
6 a time to search and a time to give up,
a time to keep and a time to throw away,
7 a time to tear and a time to mend,
a time to be silent and a time to speak,
8 a time to love and a time to hate,
a time for war and a time for peace.

We are told in the end it will be like the days of Noah. That is a fact so yes the world will become as evil as those days. How fast or how slow is up to God on how long he keeps the full evil at bay through His Spirit.

Isiah 14 mentions satan's fall, his punishment, his defeat, and the victory of Jesus. That victory will be instant.

 

[2ndTimothyGroup]

Was this a local, state or national incident?

Good question and thanks for asking. The circumstances range to both sides of the Cascades in Washington State. While it is mostly a local problem, the governing bodies involved are statewide. My entire view and scope of authority have completely changed. I used to donate to the police department . . . no longer. I used to desire to work with certain government services so that the 2ndTimothyGroup could offer financial support with their cooperation. No more. In the future, as I regain my ability to fund 2TG, I will not seek the cooperation of any government entity or any entity that works with them in any way whatsoever. Instead, we will likely create Trust Funds for elementary schools to distribute monies to children that are in need on an as-needed basis. Or, we will offer services to anyone in need, but again, there will be no association with government or affiliates in any shape or form. I'm looking forward to it.

 

[kaylagrl]

No argument from me on that one.

But the situation IS going to escalate. What then? Knowing how this ends, I want the US to stay out of it, but unfortunately I don't think that's going to happen.

Aye, that's the question. Biden promised no American troops. This may be Bush's no new taxes.

 

[ZNP]

I want the US to stay out of it, but unfortunately I don't think that's going to happen.

It is too late. How are Americans clueless that we are already at war with Russia? We debanked them, two banks went bankrupt, their stock market has closed rather than totally crash and burn, and the ruble has dropped 40% or more in value. Imagine if Russia did that to the US? Your bank accounts are gone, your investments are gone, and you the dollars you get paid in are now worth half of what they did last week. That is nationwide for 150 million people. That is clearly an act of war.

 

[2ndTimothyGroup]

It is too late. How are Americans clueless that we are already at war with Russia? We debanked them, two banks went bankrupt, their stock market has closed rather than totally crash and burn, and the ruble has dropped 40% or more in value. Imagine if Russia did that to the US? Your bank accounts are gone, your investments are gone, and you the dollars you get paid in are now worth half of what they did last week. That is nationwide for 150 million people. That is clearly an act of war.

I suppose so. Perhaps Putin should withdraw and make amends for what he has done. That is the easiest path to take and the best path to get [his] nation back under control. That dude is such a bonehead. I don't hate anyone, but that guy really pushes the limit.

 

[ZNP]

I suppose so. Perhaps Putin should withdraw and make amends for what he has done. That is the easiest path to take and the best path to get [his] nation back under control. That dude is such a bonehead. I don't hate anyone, but that guy really pushes the limit.

He is not going to withdraw. Once he has the three ribs in His mouth he will rise up and devour much flesh, this is clearly written in the Bible and will precede the start of the 70th week.

He will amass a great army including a coalition of Islamic nations to attack Israel and they will be defeated by God, that sets the stage for the antichrist to confirm a covenant. Now that will almost certainly take place prior to Feast of Trumpets in September.

The next six months will be wild in the US, you are going to see inflation, you may see an attack in the US though it might be a false flag designed to get Americans into the battle, but I would not want to be in a major US city right now.

If the tribulation does begin in September then we should see the rapture take place before that, maybe even six months. Ken Peters dream began with a stuck car horn and I was reminded of that watching the trucker convoy heading to DC. If that is what he saw the rapture took place immediately after that.

But we are going to see real shortages of food, not just inconvenience but very significant shortages and increase in costs.

 

[2ndTimothyGroup]

He is not going to withdraw. Once he has the three ribs in His mouth he will rise up and devour much flesh, this is clearly written in the Bible and will precede the start of the 70th week.

He will amass a great army including a coalition of Islamic nations to attack Israel and they will be defeated by God, that sets the stage for the antichrist to confirm a covenant. Now that will almost certainly take place prior to Feast of Trumpets in September.

The next six months will be wild in the US, you are going to see inflation, you may see an attack in the US though it might be a false flag designed to get Americans into the battle, but I would not want to be in a major US city right now.

If the tribulation does begin in September then we should see the rapture take place before that, maybe even six months. Ken Peters dream began with a stuck car horn and I was reminded of that watching the trucker convoy heading to DC. If that is what he saw the rapture took place immediately after that.

But we are going to see real shortages of food, not just inconvenience but very significant shortages and increase in costs.

Wow. I hope you're right and I hope you're wrong . . . if you know what I mean. Can you imagine that we would be the lucky few to see Christ before we died? The chances of us being alive when Christ returns . . . what an amazing thing!

And if we do see Him, His Holy Elect will know exactly who He is. There will be no questioning. Just as Paul fell to the ground on the Damascus road and called out "Lord," we will know that Christ is Lord too. As usual and like a broken record, I highly suggest that all people understand what Circumcision of the Heart is all about and make sure, absolutely certain that they have received THAT specific Spiritual Circumcision. We should not mince that word or avoid it . . . which is what the world does because it is "ashamed" of it. The removal of the Curse is hidden behind human shame so that we would not understand, and worse, be repelled. We all need to be asking God that Christ would Circumcise our hearts if we're not absolutely certain that it has been done.

If anyone is reading this and does not know what I'm talking about . . . please read Colossians 2:9-15. Read it in any legitimate translation. My two favorites are the KJV and NLT. They will make the Circumcision of Christ absolutely clear. Without the Circumcision of Christ, Jesus will look at each of us and say, "Get away from me. For I never Knew you." And that Knowing is the Holy Operation of Faith. This Knowing is the intimacy that Christ shares with us just as a man shares with a woman, made known by saying, "I knew her."