Is Texas inching towards secession?

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tourist

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It's already been tried once before. I really can't blame Texas.
 

Cabrillo

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The Government will never relinquish it's Oil, beef and shipping assets in Texas. Never, No way!
 

Smoke

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Texas will be a purple state within the next decade or two. It's not as conservative as it's reputation insists.
 

Cabrillo

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Texas will be a purple state within the next decade or two. It's not as conservative as it's reputation insists.
The voters in Texas have traditionally conservative. Statewide however it has a more eclectic demographicly. Liberals love their guns and freedom of speech too. I lived in San Antonio & Houston when I was in my 20's. Let's not forget the huge Hispanic influence and remember that Texas rebeled against Mexico. Just like California did not so long (historicly) ago. They place the value of freedom (for the most part) right on top of priorities. Possibly above taxes.

I know that I can walk into a market with a Glock 9mm on my hip. The most likely question I would be asked would be from another gun enthusiast. Nobody would call the police (polling places, liquor stores and churches are no gun zones). Don't mess with Texas is more than a motto, they mean it.
 

ZNP

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Texas has a special provision that no other state has which says they can simply vote to secede if they ever wish.
 
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Texas has a special provision that no other state has which says they can simply vote to secede if they ever wish.
You might be right, but there is nothing holding other states back from ceading the union either. Legally sound to do so, just as it was for the UK to do so in the EU, just as it was for the confederate 4 who did it in the past. It is just about doing the financial dealings regarding federal property in the state, and the states assets in federal property in other states and the funded liabilities that are shared. Then you can walk it alone, and then do a defencealliance, or do that yourself, or pay Mexico to be peacekeeping forces. Texas will never do it I think, but the needle may be moved, and there may be talks with other states to form another union. Would be more natural to have the southern states mminus california and some rustbeltstates in another union. Better for all and the world.
 

Icedaisey

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The voters in Texas have traditionally conservative. Statewide however it has a more eclectic demographicly. Liberals love their guns and freedom of speech too. I lived in San Antonio & Houston when I was in my 20's. Let's not forget the huge Hispanic influence and remember that Texas rebeled against Mexico. Just like California did not so long (historicly) ago. They place the value of freedom (for the most part) right on top of priorities. Possibly above taxes.

I know that I can walk into a market with a Glock 9mm on my hip. The most likely question I would be asked would be from another gun enthusiast. Nobody would call the police (polling places, liquor stores and churches are no gun zones). Don't mess with Texas is more than a motto, they mean it.
Actually the motto, Don't Mess With Texas, pertained to their anti-littering campaign.
 

Icedaisey

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You might be right, but there is nothing holding other states back from ceading the union either. Legally sound to do so,
Actually, that's not true.

"If there was any constitutional issue resolved by the Civil War, it is that there is no right to secede." U.S. Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia

February 16th, 2010
Scalia: "There Is No Right to Secede"
 

ZNP

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Ac

Actually, that's not true.

"If there was any constitutional issue resolved by the Civil War, it is that there is no right to secede." U.S. Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia

February 16th, 2010
Scalia: "There Is No Right to Secede"
After listening to the President yesterday I didn't realize anyone still paid attention to the constitution or the laws.
 
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Texas will be a purple state within the next decade or two. It's not as conservative as it's reputation insists.
This is because of weaponized immigration. There will be an ethnic cleansing sooner or later.
 

Icedaisey

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Actually the motto, Don't Mess With Texas, pertained to their anti-littering campaign.
Report a Litterer
Even after more than 35 years of the Don’t mess with Texas campaign, litterbugs still roam the roadways, tossing trash from their car windows and letting litter fly out of their truck beds......
 

Icedaisey

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Texas will be a purple state within the next decade or two. It's not as conservative as it's reputation insists.
Prior to the November 2020 election Texas was a blue state.
Now, they're red.
 

Icedaisey

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After listening to the President yesterday I didn't realize anyone still paid attention to the constitution or the laws.
Don't let them fool you. Just because the selected Democrats act that way doesn't mean all Americans feel the same way.

Our Constitution protects us from the overreach of the government.
 
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Don't let them fool you. Just because the selected Democrats act that way doesn't mean all Americans feel the same way.

Our Constitution protects us from the overreach of the government.
Pieces of paper never protected anyone from anything. Ultimately if there's no one willing to enforce what the paper says, then the paper is worthless. That is the situation we're in.
 
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Actually, that's not true.

"If there was any constitutional issue resolved by the Civil War, it is that there is no right to secede." U.S. Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia

February 16th, 2010
Scalia: "There Is No Right to Secede"
Your nick is pointless, as we both know, produce evidence for there being provisions against leaving the union, there are none. The confederate 4 left legally sound, they walked into a trap by attacking a fort that the union did not desert as they were required to do, that started the war. They had to do a deal to pay for the fort they attacked, oor make the case that that the union attacked them by no leaving the fort. They attacked, Lincoln got the response wanted, you kept the union. Very simple. Lincoln never questioned their right to leave, just set a trap for them, that they bit. It was OK before that. The confederate 4 would be free today, if they just built a wall around that fort and let it be. Anyways, you are not worth it, going soon, pathetic engagement, putting on a movie or someting if it does not change. Watched a game, over now.
 

Icedaisey

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Pieces of paper never protected anyone from anything. Ultimately if there's no one willing to enforce what the paper says, then the paper is worthless. That is the situation we're in.
You're very young.