KILLINGS OF PALESTINIAN CIVILIANS BY ISRAELI FORCES
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I believe in the if you bless Israel, you will be blessed; and if you curse Israel, you will be cursed.
The thing is praying for blessing's on Israel does not mean you always agree with their decisions. Even God was not happy with them and their choices many of times in the OT, and in turn faced punishment and correction for their disobedience.
Saying that I definitely do not side with Hamas who uses innocent civilians to shield their weapons, and has come out publicly and said that Israel should not exist.
Hamas is definitely pure evil in what they do.
Does Israel make mistakes or do things wrong sometimes...yes...but that can be said of all of us because we are not perfect.
The thing is praying for blessing's on Israel does not mean you always agree with their decisions. Even God was not happy with them and their choices many of times in the OT, and in turn faced punishment and correction for their disobedience.
Saying that I definitely do not side with Hamas who uses innocent civilians to shield their weapons, and has come out publicly and said that Israel should not exist.
Hamas is definitely pure evil in what they do.
Does Israel make mistakes or do things wrong sometimes...yes...but that can be said of all of us because we are not perfect.
Seriously?
This is problem with many people who have no idea about the middle east, they simply are told "evil Israel" and "Israel kills babies" and "Israel is committing genocide" and everyone gets all angry about it.
BUt what is the truth?
Israel pulled out every settler and influence of Gaza strip, gave the people self rule with own police force etc
.After pulling out of Gaza, the population of Gaza have to endure a civil war between Hamas and Fatah, where number of civilians and children diedAfter slaughtering the Fatah party and forcing the civilians to back them, Hamas won landslide election.
Israel still continued to pour tons of aid into Gaza each week, including providing Gaza strip with most of its electricity, treating thousands of Civilians each week in Israeli hospitals.
Hamas recieve millions of dollars in aid. They have enough money to rebuild every home in Gaza, giving its entire population modern air conditioned luxury apartments. THey also had enough money and resources to build a couple of new power stations and hospitals full of latest hi-tech equipment, but instead they blew it on building a complex tunnel network weapons, and of course like all good regimes, diverted plenty of money into private bank accounts.
Further they leave the population in poverty and ruin as propaganda, they can not have their population shown living in 5 star accommodation with all mod cons.
Thousands of missiles have rained down on Israel over the years since Israel pulled out.
Israel goes into Gaza to remove the missiles and kill Hamas, but Hamas hide behind the civilians and do not wear any uniform , so when they die they are recorded as civilian deaths.
If Israel wanted to be brutal, then they could have killed off the population of Gaza within hours decades ago, but being a democracy they do not act like all the other Arab nations around it.
For example,
Sadam Hussain managed to kill off over half a million Kurds,
Jordan wiped out tens of thousands of Palestinians and sent the rest into Gaza to ethnically cleanse the West Bank which it owned.
Arabs enjoy more privillages and rights living in Israel than they do any other Arab nation.
So who really is the evil monster? A regieme and people that engaged in civil war to rule over Gaza, fires thousands of rockets and mortars into Israel day after day week after week, a people who want to see Israel destroyed and every Jew killed, a population which celebrates and commemerates dead suicide bombers like film stars, songs and poems in schools celebrating a mayrters death and number of Jews he killed and a regime that encourages people to act as human shields OR
A democracy which allows civil and liberal freedom and trys to save lives and prevent a loss of life to people of Gaza.
This is problem with many people who have no idea about the middle east, they simply are told "evil Israel" and "Israel kills babies" and "Israel is committing genocide" and everyone gets all angry about it.
BUt what is the truth?
Israel pulled out every settler and influence of Gaza strip, gave the people self rule with own police force etc
.After pulling out of Gaza, the population of Gaza have to endure a civil war between Hamas and Fatah, where number of civilians and children diedAfter slaughtering the Fatah party and forcing the civilians to back them, Hamas won landslide election.
Israel still continued to pour tons of aid into Gaza each week, including providing Gaza strip with most of its electricity, treating thousands of Civilians each week in Israeli hospitals.
Hamas recieve millions of dollars in aid. They have enough money to rebuild every home in Gaza, giving its entire population modern air conditioned luxury apartments. THey also had enough money and resources to build a couple of new power stations and hospitals full of latest hi-tech equipment, but instead they blew it on building a complex tunnel network weapons, and of course like all good regimes, diverted plenty of money into private bank accounts.
Further they leave the population in poverty and ruin as propaganda, they can not have their population shown living in 5 star accommodation with all mod cons.
Thousands of missiles have rained down on Israel over the years since Israel pulled out.
Israel goes into Gaza to remove the missiles and kill Hamas, but Hamas hide behind the civilians and do not wear any uniform , so when they die they are recorded as civilian deaths.
If Israel wanted to be brutal, then they could have killed off the population of Gaza within hours decades ago, but being a democracy they do not act like all the other Arab nations around it.
For example,
Sadam Hussain managed to kill off over half a million Kurds,
Jordan wiped out tens of thousands of Palestinians and sent the rest into Gaza to ethnically cleanse the West Bank which it owned.
Arabs enjoy more privillages and rights living in Israel than they do any other Arab nation.
So who really is the evil monster? A regieme and people that engaged in civil war to rule over Gaza, fires thousands of rockets and mortars into Israel day after day week after week, a people who want to see Israel destroyed and every Jew killed, a population which celebrates and commemerates dead suicide bombers like film stars, songs and poems in schools celebrating a mayrters death and number of Jews he killed and a regime that encourages people to act as human shields OR
A democracy which allows civil and liberal freedom and trys to save lives and prevent a loss of life to people of Gaza.
No doubt there is always going to be an element in society that profits from war. Tee shirts, slogans, soliciting donations, starting on-line petitions that aren't worth the time it takes to fill out one's name and contact information. Information that is actually sold to call and mailing lists by those who started the petition site. It's all exploitative measures intending to profit off of tragedy.
Israel killing civilians and Palestinians killing civilians, while they ensconse their weaponry and guerillas in among the civilian population so that a strike by Israel not only kills them, but can then be a tool of war in pointing the finger at Israel and saying; see? Israel's evil! Look at these innocent (human shield) civilians they just blew away when they blew up this house that had weapons and explosives hidden inside....
It's an age old trick. Hiding soldiers and munitions in non-combatants homes. The Vietcong did this in Vietnam.
Palestinians are happy to oblige the hiding of weapons and munitions. In Islam, according to its martyr tenets, when they're killed by a missile strike they are delivered instantly to paradise. It's a win win. That's why the Palestinian fighters hide weapons amid children and families. And that's why those Palestinian families and children are happy to hide those munitions.
There's an Android App that warns Israeli's of incoming rockets fired from Gaza.
[h=1]Israeli App Warns Of Incoming Gaza Rockets[/h]
And then there's Israel reciprocating:
[h=1]Israel Warns Gaza Targets by Phone and Leaflet[/h]
Israel killing civilians and Palestinians killing civilians, while they ensconse their weaponry and guerillas in among the civilian population so that a strike by Israel not only kills them, but can then be a tool of war in pointing the finger at Israel and saying; see? Israel's evil! Look at these innocent (human shield) civilians they just blew away when they blew up this house that had weapons and explosives hidden inside....
It's an age old trick. Hiding soldiers and munitions in non-combatants homes. The Vietcong did this in Vietnam.
Palestinians are happy to oblige the hiding of weapons and munitions. In Islam, according to its martyr tenets, when they're killed by a missile strike they are delivered instantly to paradise. It's a win win. That's why the Palestinian fighters hide weapons amid children and families. And that's why those Palestinian families and children are happy to hide those munitions.
There's an Android App that warns Israeli's of incoming rockets fired from Gaza.
[h=1]Israeli App Warns Of Incoming Gaza Rockets[/h]
And then there's Israel reciprocating:
[h=1]Israel Warns Gaza Targets by Phone and Leaflet[/h]
[h=1]August 2, 2014 Gaza: Nearly 300 Palestinian children killed, says UN[/h]
"Peace will come when the Arabs will love their children more than they hate us." Israel Prime Minister Golda Meir (3 May 1898 – 8 December 1978)
"Peace will come when the Arabs will love their children more than they hate us." Israel Prime Minister Golda Meir (3 May 1898 – 8 December 1978)
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I received this email from Jewish Awareness Ministries today. It is a letter from the parents of that 4 year old boy, Daniel Tregerman, who was murdered by those Gaza Muslims, to the UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon. It is not posted up on the website of Jewish Awareness Ministries, so I will copy and paste it here:
The following is why they are referred to as an abomination because they MURDER CHILDREN IN COLD BLOOD calling it self-defense--
12 yr old boy SHOT DEAD in front of your eyes
Updated 9.48 p.m., 3rd Oct 2000
A 12 Year old Boy Shot Dead in front of YOUR Eyes
The sad story of the never ending killing of Palestinian children by the Israeli Defense Force all in the name of self-defense.
Murdering little girls is an Israeli sport it seems
Gaza girl said killed
By Amos Harel and Nir Hasson, Haaretz Correspondents,
and Haaretz Service
Thu., October 28, 2004
IDF troops shot and killed an 8-year-old Palestinian girl who was on her way to school in a Gaza Strip refugee camp
Palestinian mortar kills soldier, wounds 6 others in Gaza Israel News | Haaretz
UN officials: Girl hit by IDF gunfire in UN school in Gaza
By Amos Harel, Haaretz Correspondent and AP
Tue., October 12, 2004 Tishrei 27, 5765
An 11-year-old Palestinian girl was shot in the stomach and critically wounded by Israel Defense Forces gunfire IDF troops fired two shots, one of the shots hit a fifth-grade student at the school. Last month, a 10-year-old girl was killed by IDF gunfire while sitting at her desk at the same school.
IDF suspends commander implicated in death of girl, 13 Israel News | Haaretz
United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East (UNRWA) 7 September 2004 At 07:45 10-year old Raghda Adnan Al-Assar was struck in the head by Israeli fire while sitting at her desk in UNRWA's Elementary
C Girl's School On June 1 this year two ten-year old children in UNRWA's
Al-Umariye Elementary Boys' School in Rafah were hit by a bullet from a Israeli tank
In March 2003
12-year old Hoda Darwish was hit in the head by a bullet fired Two 10 year-old schoolchildren were shot in the al-Omaria school run by UNRWA in Rafah, when an Israeli tank fired into their classroom.
Bullets fired from the tank flew through the classroom window, hitting Mahmoud Hamad in the neck and Hisham al Habil in the head. The boys had not even been sitting by the windows but in the middle of the room.
http://www.palestinemonitor.org/index.html
Photos of a 12 year old palestinian boy being shot by Israeli soldiers and the ambulance driver who tried to save him also being shot and killed.
http://www.palestine-net.com/misc/durra/
Three-year-old Rawan Abu Zeid, who took bullets in the neck and ead while buying candy with her friends.
5 June 2004
The New Yorker’s Israel: Where Objectivity Fails | The Electronic Intifada
An eight-year-old Palestinian girl shot dead by Israeli troops in the central Gaza Strip was killed while showing off her new school uniform to friends
http://tinyurl.com/99kh8zk
Boy of 17, shot by Israeli soldiers, left bleeding overnight to die
September 8, 2003
The bullet ridden corpse of Mohammad Abdullah Abu al-Husni, was found yesterday morning near the town of Jabaliya, where he lived in Gaza.
http://www.palestinemonitor.org/updates/left_to_die.htm
Haneen, who was eight years old, had been shot twice in the head by an Israeli soldier as she walked down the street in Khan Yunis refugee camp with her mother.
28 July 2003
She was coming down the street and ran to me and hugged me, crying,
'Mother, mother'. Two bullets hit her in the head, one straight after the other.
She was still in my arms and she died."
'I can't imagine anyone who considers himself a human being can do this' | World news | The Guardian
This boy was in his own house and an IDF soldier barges into the house and shoots him dead Mohammed a 7-year-old boy fell dead, still clutching his piece of bread.
Tuesday December 23, 2003
Israel Army action breeds fresh hatred | World news | The Guardian
Israel Baby is born then dies
September 11, 2003
Birth and death at the checkpoint
12 yr old boy SHOT DEAD in front of your eyes
Updated 9.48 p.m., 3rd Oct 2000
A 12 Year old Boy Shot Dead in front of YOUR Eyes
The sad story of the never ending killing of Palestinian children by the Israeli Defense Force all in the name of self-defense.
Murdering little girls is an Israeli sport it seems
Gaza girl said killed
By Amos Harel and Nir Hasson, Haaretz Correspondents,
and Haaretz Service
Thu., October 28, 2004
IDF troops shot and killed an 8-year-old Palestinian girl who was on her way to school in a Gaza Strip refugee camp
Palestinian mortar kills soldier, wounds 6 others in Gaza Israel News | Haaretz
UN officials: Girl hit by IDF gunfire in UN school in Gaza
By Amos Harel, Haaretz Correspondent and AP
Tue., October 12, 2004 Tishrei 27, 5765
An 11-year-old Palestinian girl was shot in the stomach and critically wounded by Israel Defense Forces gunfire IDF troops fired two shots, one of the shots hit a fifth-grade student at the school. Last month, a 10-year-old girl was killed by IDF gunfire while sitting at her desk at the same school.
IDF suspends commander implicated in death of girl, 13 Israel News | Haaretz
United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East (UNRWA) 7 September 2004 At 07:45 10-year old Raghda Adnan Al-Assar was struck in the head by Israeli fire while sitting at her desk in UNRWA's Elementary
C Girl's School On June 1 this year two ten-year old children in UNRWA's
Al-Umariye Elementary Boys' School in Rafah were hit by a bullet from a Israeli tank
In March 2003
12-year old Hoda Darwish was hit in the head by a bullet fired Two 10 year-old schoolchildren were shot in the al-Omaria school run by UNRWA in Rafah, when an Israeli tank fired into their classroom.
Bullets fired from the tank flew through the classroom window, hitting Mahmoud Hamad in the neck and Hisham al Habil in the head. The boys had not even been sitting by the windows but in the middle of the room.
http://www.palestinemonitor.org/index.html
Photos of a 12 year old palestinian boy being shot by Israeli soldiers and the ambulance driver who tried to save him also being shot and killed.
http://www.palestine-net.com/misc/durra/
Three-year-old Rawan Abu Zeid, who took bullets in the neck and ead while buying candy with her friends.
5 June 2004
The New Yorker’s Israel: Where Objectivity Fails | The Electronic Intifada
An eight-year-old Palestinian girl shot dead by Israeli troops in the central Gaza Strip was killed while showing off her new school uniform to friends
http://tinyurl.com/99kh8zk
Boy of 17, shot by Israeli soldiers, left bleeding overnight to die
September 8, 2003
The bullet ridden corpse of Mohammad Abdullah Abu al-Husni, was found yesterday morning near the town of Jabaliya, where he lived in Gaza.
http://www.palestinemonitor.org/updates/left_to_die.htm
Haneen, who was eight years old, had been shot twice in the head by an Israeli soldier as she walked down the street in Khan Yunis refugee camp with her mother.
28 July 2003
She was coming down the street and ran to me and hugged me, crying,
'Mother, mother'. Two bullets hit her in the head, one straight after the other.
She was still in my arms and she died."
'I can't imagine anyone who considers himself a human being can do this' | World news | The Guardian
This boy was in his own house and an IDF soldier barges into the house and shoots him dead Mohammed a 7-year-old boy fell dead, still clutching his piece of bread.
Tuesday December 23, 2003
Israel Army action breeds fresh hatred | World news | The Guardian
Israel Baby is born then dies
September 11, 2003
Birth and death at the checkpoint
-US military admits they target children, they are fair game.
US Military Says Killing Afghan Children Is Fair Game
US Military Says Killing Afghan Children Is Fair Game