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kaylagrl

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Actually, Church of Nazarene does ordain gays. I've read there's no written policy but they've decided that professed gays have to remain celibate.

I've traveled in many Naz. churches,know a lot of pastors personally. I know they would leave the church if they knew this to be true.From their official site...

The Church of the Nazarene believes that every man or woman should be treated with dignity, grace, and holy love, whatever their sexual orientation. However, we continue to firmly hold the position that the homosexual lifestyle is sinful and is contrary to the Scriptures.
We further wish to reemphasize our call to Nazarenes around the globe to recommit themselves to a life of holiness, characterized by holy love and expressed through the most rigorous and consistent lifestyle of sexual purity. We stand firmly on the belief that the biblical concept of marriage, always between one man and one woman in a committed, lifelong relationship, is the only relationship within which the gift of sexual intimacy is properly expressed.


 

PennEd

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Actually, Church of Nazarene does ordain gays. I've read there's no written policy but they've decided that professed gays have to remain celibate.
Although I don't consider myself any particular denomination, I have attended a Nazarene Church for more than 5 yrs, and I have NEVER heard of any of them ordaining homosexuals.

Tell me, since we are ALL sinners, who are the perfect saints that are ordained at your Church?
 

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2Co 6:17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,
Rev. 18:4: "And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues." Babylonis truly about to fall and the son of perdition to be revealed. :cool:
 

17Bees

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Although I don't consider myself any particular denomination, I have attended a Nazarene Church for more than 5 yrs, and I have NEVER heard of any of them ordaining homosexuals.

Tell me, since we are ALL sinners, who are the perfect saints that are ordained at your Church?
There aren't any! Which is my entire point. I'm not here to defend Catholics or Nazarene's. The Nazarene Church was among the group of churches I listed that will or have ordained professed gay clergy from Wikpedia. I have no idea whether the members of the churches are split on the isssue or if your particular church would not hire gay clergy. I don't know.

Look, the Catholic priest's actions are reprehensible if found to be true and they should be dealt with effectively. But these threads surface all to often and always identify Catholic clergy and always met with high horse indignation of the RCC. Some even implying that the CC recuits only these kinds of reprobates or that sodomy was tolerated or many other exaggerations or outright lies.

PennEd, you yourself - even when you don't consider yourself attached to the Nazarene Church - seemed sensitive to your church and defended her. Good for you. How much more would you be offended if you heard these kinds of things about your church?

My reason for posting at all was pointing out that Protestant churches aren't immune to these kinds of issues and that our mutual desire to please God and follow His commands should be a universal yearning instead of finger pointing damnation.
 

Odelschwanck

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There are gay pastors and preachers in every denomination and not exclusively in the Catholic church. Hypocrisy exists everywhere. Looks like still another Catholic bashing thread. Gets old after awhile.
Sorry. I have relatives who are Catholic, I don't want to bash the whole thing. I was mostly posting for the sake of news since it is a news story. It definitely does happen in other denominations, it just happened to be Catholic in this instance.
 

oldethennew

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somebody needs to do some serious 'home-work', especially when it comes to
the ones whom have come forth for decades and told the 'truth'...

not to mention the 'switch a roos', with those whom are 'caught-red-handed'...
it's about the 'leaders', not the true hearted ones who have been mis-led, those
who trusted but were clearly deceived = a never ending saga, until The Lord Jesus comes,
and He certainly will right ALL of the wrongers and their filth...
 

kaylagrl

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There aren't any! Which is my entire point. I'm not here to defend Catholics or Nazarene's. The Nazarene Church was among the group of churches I listed that will or have ordained professed gay clergy from Wikpedia. I have no idea whether the members of the churches are split on the isssue or if your particular church would not hire gay clergy. I don't know.

Look, the Catholic priest's actions are reprehensible if found to be true and they should be dealt with effectively. But these threads surface all to often and always identify Catholic clergy and always met with high horse indignation of the RCC. Some even implying that the CC recuits only these kinds of reprobates or that sodomy was tolerated or many other exaggerations or outright lies.

PennEd, you yourself - even when you don't consider yourself attached to the Nazarene Church - seemed sensitive to your church and defended her. Good for you. How much more would you be offended if you heard these kinds of things about your church?

My reason for posting at all was pointing out that Protestant churches aren't immune to these kinds of issues and that our mutual desire to please God and follow His commands should be a universal yearning instead of finger pointing damnation.


Nazarenes do not ordain gays.Wikipedia is an information sharing site. While we all use it much of the info found there is untrue.The Naz. own site,which I copied their stance,does not ordain homosexuals.They do not agree with homosexuality.
 

17Bees

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mcubed

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p_rehbein

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Yeah, it can be hard to post a News Story or such......some of my xxxx friends are Baptists......and that means I have to ignore a whole bushel of News Stories........

:)

(edited to delete "best" I mean can someone who drinks ALL your Budwiser be called best friend?)


Sorry. I have relatives who are Catholic, I don't want to bash the whole thing. I was mostly posting for the sake of news since it is a news story. It definitely does happen in other denominations, it just happened to be Catholic in this instance.
 

PennEd

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There aren't any! Which is my entire point. I'm not here to defend Catholics or Nazarene's. The Nazarene Church was among the group of churches I listed that will or have ordained professed gay clergy from Wikpedia. I have no idea whether the members of the churches are split on the isssue or if your particular church would not hire gay clergy. I don't know.

Look, the Catholic priest's actions are reprehensible if found to be true and they should be dealt with effectively. But these threads surface all to often and always identify Catholic clergy and always met with high horse indignation of the RCC. Some even implying that the CC recuits only these kinds of reprobates or that sodomy was tolerated or many other exaggerations or outright lies.

PennEd, you yourself - even when you don't consider yourself attached to the Nazarene Church - seemed sensitive to your church and defended her. Good for you. How much more would you be offended if you heard these kinds of things about your church?

My reason for posting at all was pointing out that Protestant churches aren't immune to these kinds of issues and that our mutual desire to please God and follow His commands should be a universal yearning instead of finger pointing damnation.
Well I'd like to think I have a little perspective on this issue, since I was raised catholic, attended catholic grammar school, and was even married in a catholic church. I am also very familiar with their doctrines and scandals.

At the heart of the catholic problem of pedophilia, and homosexuality, is the prohibition against allowing Priests to marry.

Many join, in the earnest hope, that by merely becoming a priest their lustful desires will abate. Most put their faith in men (popes, cardinals, bishops) and their religion, rather than in Christ. As we have seen for centuries many fail in overcoming their lust.

To exacerbate the problem, the catholic church has been, and in some ways, continues to coverup, reassign, and not purge the offenders. THAT is why they deserve the greater scrutiny and condemnation.

My Nazarene Church is Pastored by half a dozen or so men and women that are sinners in need of a Savior, like everybody else. Our Church tries to follow the tenets laid down in Titus, Timothy and elsewhere. I'm sure they don't always succeed, but they DO NOT wink at sin and cover it up. That is the primary difference.
 

hornetguy

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Yeah, it can be hard to post a News Story or such......some of my xxxx friends are Baptists......and that means I have to ignore a whole bushel of News Stories........

:)

(edited to delete "best" I mean can someone who drinks ALL your Budwiser be called best friend?)
Only if they bring Shiner Bock the next time, as a replacement.... ;)
 

hornetguy

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Well I'd like to think I have a little perspective on this issue, since I was raised catholic, attended catholic grammar school, and was even married in a catholic church. I am also very familiar with their doctrines and scandals.

At the heart of the catholic problem of pedophilia, and homosexuality, is the prohibition against allowing Priests to marry.

Many join, in the earnest hope, that by merely becoming a priest their lustful desires will abate. Most put their faith in men (popes, cardinals, bishops) and their religion, rather than in Christ. As we have seen for centuries many fail in overcoming their lust.

To exacerbate the problem, the catholic church has been, and in some ways, continues to coverup, reassign, and not purge the offenders. THAT is why they deserve the greater scrutiny and condemnation.

My Nazarene Church is Pastored by half a dozen or so men and women that are sinners in need of a Savior, like everybody else. Our Church tries to follow the tenets laid down in Titus, Timothy and elsewhere. I'm sure they don't always succeed, but they DO NOT wink at sin and cover it up. That is the primary difference.
I couldn't rep you on this... gotta spread it around..

I agree completely. The whole celibate priest thing has been a thorn in the side of Roman Catholicism since the beginning. I believe Paul even discussed it ... it's better to marry than to burn with passion. (lust).

The multiple elders/overseers is a much better way to organize a body of believers... and, strangely enough, it mirrors the way the apostles told the 1st century church to organize.... imagine that! :cool:
 

MichaelOwen

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One thing I've come to learn is my Lord does not condone gays.....it's an abomination to him.
 

kaylagrl

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Just trying to provide the most reliable info I can about this and not just opinion. Here's the article...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_denominational_positions_on_homosexuality

I understand but the most accurate info is from their own website. They state on their official site that they do not agree with homosexuality or ordain gays. I have a close pastor friend that is Naz. and if they started ordaining gays he would leave them without question.
 

AdolfHipster

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Maybe I'm misinterpreting some of the posts, but it seems like some people are passive aggressively defending the Catholic church by trying to misdirect/channel the attention to another group of people committing the same degenerate behavior.

By all means, start a new thread and expose evil wherever you see it... Catholic, Mormon, Baptists, Pentecostal, Methodist, etc... No faith/denomination has a monopoly of sinners... but we can't excuse our own sins by stating our neighbor commits the same sins. That is NOT how the atonement of Jesus Christ works.
 
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