Muslims now blowing up infants. This is acceptable to followers of Islam?

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Roughsoul1991

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This reminds me of the Baal child sacrifice in the bible. This is endorsed by the Koran?
Yet more proof that at least some of the followers of Islam may be following the god of this world.


Suicide bombers are using babies to avoid detection

By Alexandra Klausner

January 24, 2017 | 10:08am

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A woman carrying a baby walks through temporary shelters in Nigeria.Getty Images

​Babies are terrorists’ newest weapon, Nigerian officials warn.
Female suicide bombers carrying infants set off explosive devices in Madagali on Jan. 13 after they were let through a security checkpoint where they were mistaken for civilians, the BBC reported. The women killed themselves, two babies and four others.

The women — believed to be from the homegrown Islamic extremist group Boko Haram — could signal a horrifying trend of terrorists using infants in order to avoid detection prior to attacks.
Boko Haram — deemed the world’s deadliest terror group by the Institute for Economics and Peace — is already known for using children and young girls as suicide bombers and slaves after kidnapping them.
The militant Islamist group released 21 Chibok school girls on Oct. 13 after holding them captive for over two years.

At least 15,000 people are thought to have been killed by Boko Haram, according to the International Business Times.
The Jan. 13 incident came just two weeks after two teenage girls blew themselves up and injured three civilians at a checkpoint outside Madagali.
So you see this as really bad way of murder, but yet on my post about a thug shooting a mom and her infant killing both of them. You told me they deserve 2nd chances and time to seek God's repentance. How can one murder be any different? Do you also believe if this woman's bomb had failed would she also deserve a 2nd chance?
 

Roughsoul1991

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I first saw and felt evil when I was 9 years old. I remember watching tv, hearing adults talk, and seeing images on magazines. I felt scared, sick, mad, and confused once I began to process 2 planes hitting the twin towers, one hitting the Pentagon, and one heroically brought to the ground. I remember as a child not understanding what would make a person jump from a tower like that. I grew older and them images always makes me tear up. These people would of rather fall to death than be burned alive, suffocated by smoke, or just to escape the horror on the inside. Evil is evil, every human life is precious and should be protected from evil. If the person who committed the terrible crime while facing their consequences decides to except Jesus in prison or before death penalty, then should we release them back into society for a second chance. The city I live by has held the murder capital quite a few times. Our gang violence seems to be taking innocent bystanders lives everyday. Just today in the midst of my towns tornado disaster a man shot and killed 2 woman and injured 3 men. Evil just don't sit well with me.
 
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Yahweh_is_gracious

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Call them extremists, not Fundamentalists. 'Fundamentalists' tells them they are normal. It also tells the citizens of the US that people who blow up buildings are similar to conservative Baptists and other groups called 'Fundamentalists'.
No. I won't use euphemisms as to not hurt the wee little feelings of one group or another. Fundamentalists are fringe no matter who they pray to. I'm not going to give one group a free pass with a term and label another something else. That's some snowflake, liberal BS and I won't be party to it.
 

Magenta

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No. I won't use euphemisms as to not hurt the wee little feelings of one group or another. Fundamentalists are fringe no matter who they pray to. I'm not going to give one group a free pass with a term and label another something else. That's some snowflake, liberal BS and I won't be party to it.
Just call them human beings. Men is even more precise :) No religion required :p
 

presidente

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No. I won't use euphemisms as to not hurt the wee little feelings of one group or another. Fundamentalists are fringe no matter who they pray to. I'm not going to give one group a free pass with a term and label another something else. That's some snowflake, liberal BS and I won't be party to it.
It's a stupid label, especially for politicians to use. Why try to radicalize Muslims? Why try to associate them with peaceful Christians who are serious about their faith?

As far as I know, the Koran and hadith talk about fighting on battlefields, not sneaking around blowing stuff up. Bombing people isn't a fundamental of their religion, not originally. Some of the issues related to treatment of women, slavery, etc. is right out of their texts.
 
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Yahweh_is_gracious

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Any group that justifies their actions by hiding behind their "holy" books and interpreting the words therein in creative ways to give credibility to their behavior is a fundamentalist. In their minds, they are following the tenets of the text as closely as possible. So, Muslims committing atrocities or Christian-claiming Neo Nazis in Idaho spewing hate towards blacks, Jews or any other group of their choosing...same type of logic they use.
 

presidente

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Any group that justifies their actions by hiding behind their "holy" books and interpreting the words therein in creative ways to give credibility to their behavior is a fundamentalist.
'Fundamentalists' was a name for people who studied the fundamental doctrines of the Christian faith and believed in them. In the 1980's, they were using it to describe the followings of Khomeini who had taken over Iraq. It's not the same thing. Baptists, Nazarenes, and Bible church people don't go around staging revolutions and taking hostages. The word 'evangelical' has probably grown in popularity in comparison to 'Fundamentalism' because of this.

Why promote the Orwellian Newspeak?

In their minds, they are following the tenets of the text as closely as possible. So, Muslims committing atrocities or Christian-claiming Neo Nazis in Idaho spewing hate towards blacks, Jews or any other group of their choosing...same type of logic they use.
I have never heard of Neo Nazis being called 'Fundamentalists.' Maybe some in the media do that. I wouldn't be surprised. But they hi-jacked a term used to refer to conservative evangelicals.
 
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Yahweh_is_gracious

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Well, this is a matter we aren't going to agree on. Ever. We can lob this turd back and forth until both of us is blue in the face, but neither of us is truly interested in what the other has to say, but we pretend we do in order to try and make our point heard. Each of us would like to "win", but it's just simply not going to happen. We'll try again some other time, on some other topic.
 
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During the war between South Africa and SWAPO in Angola, it was common tactics of the terrorists to smuggle weapons in the bodies of dead infants. In Africa, the women carries their babies on their backs and what they did was they smuggled their weapons into South Africa through the border posts like that.

This is the savage tactics of terrorists and these people are ruthless killers.
 

Yeraza_Bats

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Any group that justifies their actions by hiding behind their "holy" books and interpreting the words therein in creative ways to give credibility to their behavior is a fundamentalist. In their minds, they are following the tenets of the text as closely as possible. So, Muslims committing atrocities or Christian-claiming Neo Nazis in Idaho spewing hate towards blacks, Jews or any other group of their choosing...same type of logic they use.
Heres the problem with your argument.

Quran 4:74 "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward."

Quran 8:12 "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"

Quran 8:15-16 "O ye who believe! When ye meet those who disbelieve in battle, turn not your backs to them. (16)Whoso on that day turneth his back to them, unless maneuvering for battle or intent to join a company, he truly hath incurred wrath from Allah, and his habitation will be hell, a hapless journey's end."

To this day I have not found a single verse from Jesus Christ that commands us to kill unbelievers, to hate those who arent of the same race, or anything of the sort. So saying that Islamic terrorists are on equal grounds with racist "Christians" in terms of following their teachings is not correct. Muhammad absolutely commanded to fight and kill unbelievers. Christ told us to love our enemies, and to pray for those who persecute us.
 
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Yahweh_is_gracious

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If you say so. I don't see the difference and you do. If you want to excuse despicable behavior based on degree of severity, that's your prerogative. Maybe that's one of the benefits of my NOT being a Christian - I don't look at an issue like this through rose-colored glasses.
 

presidente

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If you say so. I don't see the difference and you do. If you want to excuse despicable behavior based on degree of severity, that's your prerogative. Maybe that's one of the benefits of my NOT being a Christian - I don't look at an issue like this through rose-colored glasses.
What is that is so despicable that Baptists, some Prebyterians, Methodists, Pentecostals, etc. do? Have you ever seen any of them blowing anything up or chopping off heads?
 

Dude653

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Muslims have served in our military for decades....to my knowledge it has never been a problem
 

notuptome

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Muslims have served in our military for decades....to my knowledge it has never been a problem
Your knowledge is limited. There have been problems remember Fort Hood? There have been incidents in combat where Muslim soldiers have killed their fellow soldiers.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 

Yeraza_Bats

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If you say so. I don't see the difference and you do. If you want to excuse despicable behavior based on degree of severity, that's your prerogative. Maybe that's one of the benefits of my NOT being a Christian - I don't look at an issue like this through rose-colored glasses.
Once again, its not about behavior, its about the teachings that make up a belief. Teachings of killing the unbelievers are fundamental teachings of Islam. Teachings of racism have nothing to do with the teachings of Jesus Christ.

I always have to say this over and over, the problems with Islam are the teachings of Islam, they are not the "actions of a few", and its extremely easy to prove.