I didn't spend 6 trillion dollar in 4 years,
Obama has spent less in one term than any other president. I have posted the support for this in this forum multiple times before. He has spent less than W did in either term. He spent less than Clinton did in either term. He spent less than Bush Sr. did. Shall I continue?
basically start a class warfare,
Neither did Obama. Class warfare has been waged long before Obama was in office, and if anyone is going to take the blame, it's gotta be the ones who give tax breaks to the rich on the backs of the poor. And that's not Obama.
have crazy czars like Van Jones, Mark Llyod, Case Sunstein and their radical views,
True. Other presidents have had other crazy czars with other radical views.
and we can go on, but everyone should get the point Obama can, He tired, He FAILED .. NEXT
Economically and domestically, he has done an excellent job. His was handed a royal mess, and has actually changed the tides for the better. Is everything fixed? No. He told us at the beginning that he wouldn't be able to fix everything in four years. He told us at the beginning that he would do the best he could, and he asked us to help him.
Despite a congress that has filibusterered more than any congress in history (again, sources available) he has gotten more done than a lot of presidents before him. The economy has actually started to improve, which, considering how bad it was 4 years ago, is a downright miracle. Few presidents, even with a cooperating congress, could have accomplished the good that Obama has achieved.
As for his foreign policy, that sucks. I will grant you that (though you didn't mention that). But Romney's is worse, so we Christians are left with no one to vote for.
Now, in the video, each candidate is asked by a group of religious leaders what they plan to do about poverty in the US. It's interesting, because the videos are sponsored by a religious network, and they're asking specifically from a religious stand-point. I found a few things notable:
(1) Obama speaks a lot about his Christian faith, and about how his policies are based on how he feels he must act as a Christian man, as a husband and father, and as a president. Romney doesn't do that as much.
(2) Romney argues for, basically, a "democratic party" taxation system. He says we need to keep the entitlement programs such as social security, welfare, and other programs that assist the poor. He says this as if he's different than "the other guy," but surely he must realize that this is the democratic platform.
So I'm curious what other people think.
Do you think Obama is lying in the video when he talks about how strong his Christian faith is?
Do you think Romney is lying in the video when he says he's going to support entitlement programs like social security and welfare, even though the outcome of that action HAS to be raising taxes or raising the debt, or both?
Both candidates say they want to work with faith-based organizations to assist the poor. Obama refers to the law he already passed that does exactly that -- allows FBO to operate without government "getting in the way," yet still having the government serve as a safety net for those who aren't served by FBOs.
I'm curious as to what people on this board think about this plan. Since both candidates have basically the same plan as to what to do about poverty from a religious viewpoint, do you agree or disagree with it.
If you disagree with this plan, what would you do differently?
If you agree, how do you decide between two candidates who at least claim to be in agreement on this particular issue?
