Pamela Geller: Free speech advocate, or 'hate speech' antagonist?

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AgeofKnowledge

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Viligant_Warrior

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We looked at American rights history in school. Where do you draw the line so that she isnt simply another type of KKK, burning crosses outside mosques
Hi again, Zoii. She would draw that line herself, the moment she started burning crosses at mosques or some other overt and violent or "threat-of-fear-and-violence" act as burning crosses has been held by our Supreme Court to communicate.

That's the whole point: No one draws the line for you. Your methodology of speaking (e.g., a burning cross on someone' lawn or at a mosque) establishes your own violation of the First Amendment by using such speech to threaten or intimidate someone.

To use a sports analogy, a hand-check in basketball isn't a foul until it actually impedes the ability of the player to move across the court. In soccer/futbol, a hand across the body isn't holding until it prevents the player from freely playing the ball. In both cases, the ref tolerates the hand-check right up to the point it slows the guy down.

Same here. It's free speech that is not a threat or an intimidation, until it is a threat or intimidation.

PS: Sorry I didn't reply sooner. Somehow I missed this post.
 
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Because she wasnt near a mosque. She has the freedom of speech to do what she did. Just because that offends Muslims doesn't take away her freedom of speech. They have the freedom to disagree and to speak out but they dont have the right to go shoot up a group of people that disagree with their religious beliefs or offend them.
That little dog in your avatar looks like it can really bite...better keep her away from me LOL.