Parents refuse to put gender of baby on documents

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Miri

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...rans-parent-fighting-to-keep-gender-off-cards


A parent whose baby has been given a health card that does not
specify a sex – believed to be a world first – has said the aim is
to allow the child to discover their gender on their own.

“I think we’re starting to understand that gender identity is not
directly attached to genitals,” Kori Doty, a non-binary trans
person who does not identify as male or female, told the Guardian
in an interview.


Wow - poor kid, imagine been brought up to not know what the difference is between
a boy or a girl.

Ive just seen a TV interview where Pierce Morgan was interviewing the dad.
He is a complete idiot! Morgan kept asking him if the child had normal male or
female organs. The dad man said that having typical male or female organs doesn't define
whether a child is a boy or a girl.

Morgan said to the dad, what happens if the child's decides he wants to be a monkey! Lol
Dad said we will have that discussion when the baby is a bit older if that happened!

Wow, imagine the problems that poor child is going to have making friends, going to
school, puberty, relationships etc.

Lets pray that the child grows up with more sense than the parents and the wisdoms and
salvation of God prevails.

The dad kept going on about non binary sex gender.
 
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Infusion

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I should get my sex legally changed so I can go find these liberal lesbians and sit in the bathroom and watch them under the stalls and say its not to perv on them because I am pangendered and am not attracted to any human gender so they cant press charges like the homeless people started doing in Houston.
 
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The interesting concept of non-binary, which is intended to break out of rules altogether, is that it is not referenced in the Bible. So whatever Christian's deem God or the Bible thinks about being non-binary is simply their own opinion. People in 'the modern world' use religion to hide their own homophobia, and put the responsibility on a book or God (allowing them to think with an ancient mindset which is no different from how much of the Muslim world think and ACT on). The Bible also says a lot about love, but people can dumbly pretend they don't know what love is (to hide that they have no interest in what love is), and again, to hide that lack of understanding or of a hollow self that has become dead, they put the responsibility on God as being Loving (rather than God is Love and all expression of Love is communion with God because God is Love, God is in the Love we allow to exist towards ourselves and towards others). It says in the Bible what is the point in focusing all your love on God, and not loving your fellow human beings, or loving those you don't want to love?
 
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The interesting concept of non-binary, which is intended to break out of rules altogether, is that it is not referenced in the Bible. So whatever Christian's deem God or the Bible thinks about being non-binary is simply their own opinion. People in 'the modern world' use religion to hide their own homophobia, and put the responsibility on a book or God (allowing them to think with an ancient mindset which is no different from how much of the Muslim world think and ACT on). The Bible also says a lot about love, but people can dumbly pretend they don't know what love is (to hide that they have no interest in what love is), and again, to hide that lack of understanding or of a hollow self that has become dead, they put the responsibility on God as being Loving (rather than God is Love and all expression of Love is communion with God because God is Love, God is in the Love we allow to exist towards ourselves and towards others). It says in the Bible what is the point in focusing all your love on God, and not loving your fellow human beings, or loving those you don't want to love?
It also says homosexual shall be put to death and goes on about how they should have no mercy but you liberals always seem to twist it to what you want it to be. The only one who defiles love, nature, and the creator is the homos. And by the way its not homophobia because nobody is scared, they are just disgusted and tired of it all.
 
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I mean this is an example of what I'm saying. Whatever you think might be factual here, or true, do you see any love in this statement?

A lot of Americans will agree with you, but won't support your statement publicly because they know it is Loveless, and that it is Loveless of them, and Loveless in your perception.

While many cannot fathom evolution of religion connected to people and civilisation, and treat it as a brick wall, they cannot fathom the fact of reality that civilisation and technology does and always will evolve. You cannot live in the dark ages, and try and plant fear into peoples heads because you think God is about fear.

Whatever identity or façade people choose to take in life, what is important is that they go about it lovingly, and that others act lovingly about it.

Love isn't particularly about submission to beliefs, it is about accepting that we are all different, toleration. Fear and its branches of hate, racism, condemnation, distortion of perception, and its many delusions, doesn't change the world, it doesn't change anything.

I should get my sex legally changed so I can go find these liberal lesbians and sit in the bathroom and watch them under the stalls and say its not to perv on them because I am pangendered and am not attracted to any human gender so they cant press charges like the homeless people started doing in Houston.
 
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You gave a perfect example of what you were responding to.

It also says homosexual shall be put to death and goes on about how they should have no mercy but you liberals always seem to twist it to what you want it to be. The only one who defiles love, nature, and the creator is the homos. And by the way its not homophobia because nobody is scared, they are just disgusted and tired of it all.
 
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Infusion

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I mean this is an example of what I'm saying. Whatever you think might be factual here, or true, do you see any love in this statement?

A lot of Americans will agree with you, but won't support your statement publicly because they know it is Loveless, and that it is Loveless of them, and Loveless in your perception.

While many cannot fathom evolution of religion connected to people and civilisation, and treat it as a brick wall, they cannot fathom the fact of reality that civilisation and technology does and always will evolve. You cannot live in the dark ages, and try and plant fear into peoples heads because you think God is about fear.

Whatever identity or façade people choose to take in life, what is important is that they go about it lovingly, and that others act lovingly about it.

Love isn't particularly about submission to beliefs, it is about accepting that we are all different, toleration. Fear and its branches of hate, racism, condemnation, distortion of perception, and its many delusions, doesn't change the world, it doesn't change anything.
If you think I am bad now you should see my thread about being alt right Christian. And the Lord is love and he also said to destroy your enemies and the likes of you. You dont know what love is. Love is not your liberalism and acceptance of everybody. Love is the lion eating the gazelle. Love is the Lord destroying Sodom. Love is the creator and nature, not defiling it. Manners are not love and you will never be able to change my ideas with your twisted dark and sinful teachings.
 
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Infusion

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I mean this is an example of what I'm saying. Whatever you think might be factual here, or true, do you see any love in this statement?

A lot of Americans will agree with you, but won't support your statement publicly because they know it is Loveless, and that it is Loveless of them, and Loveless in your perception.

While many cannot fathom evolution of religion connected to people and civilisation, and treat it as a brick wall, they cannot fathom the fact of reality that civilisation and technology does and always will evolve. You cannot live in the dark ages, and try and plant fear into peoples heads because you think God is about fear.

Whatever identity or façade people choose to take in life, what is important is that they go about it lovingly, and that others act lovingly about it.

Love isn't particularly about submission to beliefs, it is about accepting that we are all different, toleration. Fear and its branches of hate, racism, condemnation, distortion of perception, and its many delusions, doesn't change the world, it doesn't change anything.
My hate, racism, and condemnation are based on proven fact so they cannot be illusion.
 
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Whatever people choose in 'their life', your life and what you choose is of your free will.

If you were hoping to change the way of 'their life', then how do you do it by being anti? Are you a perfect example of a good person?

Being anti about peoples way of life is like being anti-Christ.

Say for example you met someone gay, and you didn't agree with their life, but you accepted and tolerated them as a human being, maybe if they see that your life is greater and more joyous, free from issues, more 'loving', less 'hateful' then maybe you can inspire them?

All the hate and anti that people have inside them, only makes whatever they are against grow. That is why the suppression, and release of it has become an explosion that no-one is going to stop.

Maybe practise being a loving human being. If you cannot love those you don't love, then you need to practise that. Making statements based on your own ego of self-righteousness is more likely to turn people away from God, not bring them towards God. And I see a lot of people do that, and they know not what they are doing when they do it.

It also says homosexual shall be put to death and goes on about how they should have no mercy but you liberals always seem to twist it to what you want it to be. The only one who defiles love, nature, and the creator is the homos. And by the way its not homophobia because nobody is scared, they are just disgusted and tired of it all.
 
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Infusion

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Whatever people choose in 'their life', your life and what you choose is of your free will.

If you were hoping to change the way of 'their life', then how do you do it by being anti? Are you a perfect example of a good person?

Being anti about peoples way of life is like being anti-Christ.

Say for example you met someone gay, and you didn't agree with their life, but you accepted and tolerated them as a human being, maybe if they see that your life is greater and more joyous, free from issues, more 'loving', less 'hateful' then maybe you can inspire them?

All the hate and anti that people have inside them, only makes whatever they are against grow. That is why the suppression, and release of it has become an explosion that no-one is going to stop.

Maybe practise being a loving human being. If you cannot love those you don't love, then you need to practise that. Making statements based on your own ego of self-righteousness is more likely to turn people away from God, not bring them towards God. And I see a lot of people do that, and they know not what they are doing when they do it.
I dont care about your vile lifestyle. I just had to correct you trying to lie acting like its ok in the bible when I can show about ten version that are brutal towards it, especially in bibles a decade older. I love others just fine. But as far as the religion goes you are a walking abomination so you can preach acceptance all you want but you cant make it biblical. Your type lie everywhere else but you wont lie here about that.
 
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Wow so much malice, I can only assume you lack the intelligence to comprehend more than primal thoughts.

In the Muslim world, death for homosexuality is more prevalant. So are you saying their world is more evolved than ours in the West in regards to homosexuality? Is inhumane and destructive the way forward? Is that the God you believe in?

I dont care about your vile lifestyle. I just had to correct you trying to lie acting like its ok in the bible when I can show about ten version that are brutal towards it, especially in bibles a decade older. I love others just fine. But as far as the religion goes you are a walking abomination so you can preach acceptance all you want but you cant make it biblical. Your type lie everywhere else but you wont lie here about that.
 
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Miri

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The interesting concept of non-binary, which is intended to break out of rules altogether, is that it is not referenced in the Bible. So whatever Christian's deem God or the Bible thinks about being non-binary is simply their own opinion. People in 'the modern world' use religion to hide their own homophobia, and put the responsibility on a book or God (allowing them to think with an ancient mindset which is no different from how much of the Muslim world think and ACT on). The Bible also says a lot about love, but people can dumbly pretend they don't know what love is (to hide that they have no interest in what love is), and again, to hide that lack of understanding or of a hollow self that has become dead, they put the responsibility on God as being Loving (rather than God is Love and all expression of Love is communion with God because God is Love, God is in the Love we allow to exist towards ourselves and towards others). It says in the Bible what is the point in focusing all your love on God, and not loving your fellow human beings, or loving those you don't want to love?
Sounds pretty non binary to me.

Genesis 5:2 NKJV
[2] He created them male and female, and blessed them and called
them Mankind in the day they were created.
 

gb9

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gender identity is total garbage, their are only 2. as far as the title of this thread, it is sad, but maybe even sadder , it is no surprise to hear....
 
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as much as I don't like to say this, the Bible Clearly States what is and what is not acceptable
to our Holy Saviour - we either accept this or we accept what satan has managed to put into
the hearts and minds of men who as yet, don't accept their Saviour's Moral-Laws...
 

wolfwint

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...rans-parent-fighting-to-keep-gender-off-cards


A parent whose baby has been given a health card that does not
specify a sex – believed to be a world first – has said the aim is
to allow the child to discover their gender on their own.

“I think we’re starting to understand that gender identity is not
directly attached to genitals,” Kori Doty, a non-binary trans
person who does not identify as male or female, told the Guardian
in an interview.


Wow - poor kid, imagine been brought up to not know what the difference is between
a boy or a girl.

Ive just seen a TV interview where Pierce Morgan was interviewing the dad.
He is a complete idiot! Morgan kept asking him if the child had normal male or
female organs. The dad man said that having typical male or female organs doesn't define
whether a child is a boy or a girl.

Morgan said to the dad, what happens if the child's decides he wants to be a monkey! Lol
Dad said we will have that discussion when the baby is a bit older if that happened!

Wow, imagine the problems that poor child is going to have making friends, going to
school, puberty, relationships etc.

Lets pray that the child grows up with more sense than the parents and the wisdoms and
salvation of God prevails.

The dad kept going on about non binary sex gender.
Strange and horrible! I suppose this is first the beginning. Gender mainstreaming is coming. How they will call is then? After Islamophob and Homophob then Genderphob?
 

wolfwint

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Call us, not call is. Sorry
 

Odelschwanck

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"non-binary trans "
So a transition into no gender is still considered a transition?
 

tanakh

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...rans-parent-fighting-to-keep-gender-off-cards


A parent whose baby has been given a health card that does not
specify a sex – believed to be a world first – has said the aim is
to allow the child to discover their gender on their own.

“I think we’re starting to understand that gender identity is not
directly attached to genitals,” Kori Doty, a non-binary trans
person who does not identify as male or female, told the Guardian
in an interview.


Wow - poor kid, imagine been brought up to not know what the difference is between
a boy or a girl.

Ive just seen a TV interview where Pierce Morgan was interviewing the dad.
He is a complete idiot! Morgan kept asking him if the child had normal male or
female organs. The dad man said that having typical male or female organs doesn't define
whether a child is a boy or a girl.

Morgan said to the dad, what happens if the child's decides he wants to be a monkey! Lol
Dad said we will have that discussion when the baby is a bit older if that happened!

Wow, imagine the problems that poor child is going to have making friends, going to
school, puberty, relationships etc.

Lets pray that the child grows up with more sense than the parents and the wisdoms and
salvation of God prevails.

The dad kept going on about non binary sex gender.
Thingy will soon know when it enters the wrong Loo!
 
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notmyown

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maybe the whole world should be 5150-ed.