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Moses_Young

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The news just came out that the Spanish supreme court has denied vaccine passports. No vaccine passports in Spain allowed. Great news.
Great. It's Spain or Florida then, for me. Now I have a choice. :)
 

cv5

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When the Plandemic started in 2019 and shutdowns and masking began in 2020 i told everyone "Do not be afraid of this and DO NOT wear the masks, it will weaken your immune system." I never stopped my daily routine, going out twice everyday for coffee, going to the stores, going outside, talking with people who were not in fear.
I also said "When i get IT, my God given immune system will beat it and i will be healthier then before."

Wound up my 78 year old father-in-law got covid, gave it to my 28 year old son, who brought it home to give to everyone in my household and a BEAUTIFUL thing happened - we all had covid, nobody was afraid and nobody died and no side effects.
But we ALL became healthier.
To GOD be the Glory - Amen
With the additional benefit that no one was defeated or broke down, being reduced to begging for a "solution", groveling and submitting to the Nazified big Pharma medical authorities and Government fear mongers. In other words your God-given free will and personal sovereignty in Christ Jesus remains intact, and you have prevailed against the wicked one and the tyranny and lies of his Beast.
 

cv5

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Great. It's Spain or Florida then, for me. Now I have a choice. :)
I know a lot of people that fled like refugees to Florida, one of the last beacons of rights and freedoms in America. The flame of liberty still burns brightly in Florida.
 

Roughsoul1991

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This isn't related to the vaccine but related to Covid.

I keep posting this stuff so studies can be compared with the narrative. Also, keep in mind that these low percentages are done in a lab setting with the virus being shot at the mask. The mask also is the correct size for sealing; the mask is not constantly touched, the mask has not been saturated with vapors from breathing, and the mask is new, not reused daily.

An analysis by mask use showed ILI (RR=6.64, 95% CI 1.45 to 28.65) and laboratory-confirmed virus (RR=1.72, 95% CI 1.01 to 2.94) were significantly higher in the cloth masks group compared with the medical masks group. Penetration of cloth masks by particles was almost 97% and medical masks 44%.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25903751/

The results show that a standard surgical and three-ply cloth masks, which see current widespread use, filter at apparent efficiencies of only 12.4% and 9.8%, respectively. Apparent efficiencies of 46.3% and 60.2% are found for KN95 and R95 masks, respectively, which are still notably lower than the verified 95% rated ideal efficiencies.

https://aip.scitation.org/doi/10.1063/5.0057100
 

DavidTree

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Hogwash and poppycock! Check your sources only use seminal information and find out the facts. Not all stem cells come from aborted babies! No matter what kind of person you are, Christian or not you can do your homework and decide to believe or not believe things based on facts instead of rumours and backbiting. Take a look at what the Scriptures say about fear mongering and spreading lies and half truths. You are responsible about what you say and what you write and you will be held accountable for it by your Lord and Savior.
You said: "Take a look at what the Scriptures say about fear mongering and spreading lies and half truths."

Fearing people is a dangerous trap, but trusting the LORD means safety. - Proverbs 29:25
For wicked men are found among my people; they lurk like fowlers lying in wait. They set a trap; they catch men. Jeremiah 5:26

You put your trust in man and his vaxx, which has been scientifically proven to intercept and annul your God given immune system.

On the other hand many are turning to God for safety, blessing and wisdom.

The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom; all those who practice it have a good understanding. His praise endures forever!

We will all give account unto God and i am FULLY persuaded in the TRUTH of God - i reject man's plans.
 

Runningman

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I'll answer that: Yes. Most definitely! What's American culture anyway? With most people in the country calling their own country the name of a continent. Why does that matter anyway? Isn't this a Christian forum... or is it an American forum?
It doesn't matter to me. I was responding to someone else who said other cultures would disagree with what my alleged "American optics" are on what a good Samaritan is. As if that is a relevant point since opinions aren't objective facts. I follow what the Bible says a good Samaritan is.

This forum accepts anyone who follows the terms of service. Are you a Christian?
 

DavidTree

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With the additional benefit that no one was defeated or broke down, being reduced to begging for a "solution", groveling and submitting to the Nazified big Pharma medical authorities and Government fear mongers. In other words your God-given free will and personal sovereignty in Christ Jesus remains intact, and you have prevailed against the wicked one and the tyranny and lies of his Beast.
I have come to see that there are people on here who are not interested in science, factual information and Truth from the Word.
They're mission is to counter these things and repeat the words from the 'ministry of truth' which, when you turn it over says -
made in china.
 
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It doesn't matter to me. I was responding to someone else who said other cultures would disagree with what my alleged "American optics" are on what a good Samaritan is. As if that is a relevant point since opinions aren't objective facts. I follow what the Bible says a good Samaritan is.

This forum accepts anyone who follows the terms of service. Are you a Christian?
Are you CC Staff? No? I'll answer that to them, thank you. In fact, I already did when I joined. Some good Samaritan you are...
 

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Are you CC Staff? No? I'll answer that to them, thank you. In fact, I already did when I joined. Some good Samaritan you are...
I am a Christian, why wouldn't any believer take the opportunity to testify that Jesus Christ is Lord and Savior and that there is salvation in no other name?
 

DavidTree

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Are you CC Staff? No? I'll answer that to them, thank you. In fact, I already did when I joined. Some good Samaritan you are...
i want to encourage you - do not take offense to Runningman asking you.
The Word of God challenges us to examine ourselves in the Light of His Word - 2 Corinthians 13:5

i do not take Salvation for granted and know that all of us need, on a daily basis, the Bread of Life = Jesus and His words to flow through us that we may live for Him and not for this vain world.

Peace and Good Coffee - i am having mine now.
 

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Ha! I've had it already. It was nothing more than a bad flu. After all, that's what coronaviruses are associated with - colds. But I'll let you know if I catch it again.
You forgot to say "in my opinion I got C-19", otherwise if you know authoritatively that you have had it, show me the paperwork! Fact is you could've gotten any kind of flu, you have no idea what you got, eh?
 

dave_in_KWC

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People who have the vaccine do not have to wait. All they need to do is to get a picture taken of their blood under magnification (most universities would have that capability) and then compare that picture with a picture of healthy blood. If the blood cells show degradation it would prove the alarmists right, if the blood cells do not show degradation it would undermine the alarmists argument that this is a "death shot".
First, let me ask you if you had a C 19 vaccine? And if so have you had a before and after shot of your blood under magnification? And if so please share the results with us!
 

dave_in_KWC

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My physician doesn't have a choice. I like him and he is a good doctor. He is one of 4 doctors at the local practice.
Every medical function in the UK is dictated by the Socialist NHS.(unless you have the money to go for private healthcare)
The letter I copied is standard NHS propaganda.
Veneration of The National Health Service reached an all time high in 2020. LBTQ promotion & all.
Individual staff are alright. Some are outstanding but the institution itself has become a bit of an idol.
Despite socialized medicine in Canada and the UK, I am glad that there are "Daniel" doctors who practice according to their conscience whether they be Christian or not.
 

DavidTree

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You forgot to say "in my opinion I got C-19", otherwise if you know authoritatively that you have had it, show me the paperwork! Fact is you could've gotten any kind of flu, you have no idea what you got, eh?
Friend, your statement is part of the Plandemic. Which is to submit to their Agenda of fear and coercion. and get you to be a spokesperson for them.
 

Runningman

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Are you CC Staff? No? I'll answer that to them, thank you. In fact, I already did when I joined. Some good Samaritan you are...
You don't have to be a Christian to come to this forum and participate. I'm sorry if you thought I was suggesting that. You're welcome here. Even though I seem to disagree with everything you're saying, I still value your opinion and discussion.

If you would ever like to learn more about the gospel of Christ, pray together, or anything else please let me know.
 

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Why doesn’t people like this man with incredible credentials make a dent with the pro vaxxers? Why!?

Nobel Laureate Warns: COVID Vaccine is Creating Variants

For more than a year, French virologist Dr. Luc Montagnier—recipient of the 2008 Nobel Prize in Medicine for his discovery of the human immunodeficiency virus (HIV)—has exposed the dangers of the COVID-19 vaccines. He reveals that epidemiologists recognize but are “silent” about the phenomenon known as “Antibody Dependent Enhancement” that is currently driving the pandemic. Joining the handful of experts brave enough to speak up and share their professional knowledge, Montagnier refers to the massive vaccine campaign as an“unacceptable mistake.”

Dr. Montagnier—who was censored early in the pandemic for speaking up against mask mandates, lockdowns, government overreach, and the mass vaccination campaign—has a doctorate in medicine and has received more than 20 major awards, including the French National Order of Merit and the Légion d’honneur. He is a recipient of the Lasker Award, the Scheele Award, the Louis-Jeantet Prize for medicine, the Gairdner Award, King Faisal International Prize (known as the Arab Nobel Prize), the Prince of Asturias Award, and the Golden Plate Award of the American Academy of Achievement.

In April 2020, Montagnier argued that SARS-CoV-2 could only be a genetically engineered coronavirus, having escaped from an “industrial accident” at the Wuhan lab during attempts to develop a vaccine against HIV. He urged that the vaccine strategy for COVID-19 be based on that premise. His in-depth analysis proving the virus was man-made was published by mathematician Jean-Claud Perez in February 2020. At the time, Montagnier urged people to refuse vaccinesagainst COVID-19 when they become available, declaring that “instead of preventing the infection, they [would] accelerate infection.”

The Variants Are Created By Vaccines
The virologist argues that COVID-19 vaccines don’t stop the virus. In fact, they do the opposite—they “feed the virus” and support its evolution into more potent and more transmittable variants that will be more resistant to vaccination and run the risk of causing more health consequences than the “original” virus. Describing Montagnier’s position, a TrialSite News op-ed reported:

Montagnier refers to the mass vaccine program as an “unacceptable mistake” and a “scientific error as well as a medical error.” His assertion is that “The history books will show that it is the vaccination that is creating the variants.” In other words: “There are antibodies, created by the vaccine,” forcing the virus to “find another solution” or die. “This is where the variants are created.” It is the variants that “are a production and result from the vaccination.”


Antibody-Dependent Enhancement
It has long been known that viruses mutate, creating variants. However, as emphasized by theTrialSite News article, in expressing his concerns over mass COVID-19 vaccinations causing variants, Dr. Montagnier is referring to the mutation and strengthening of SARS-CoV-2 due to the phenomenon known as Antibody Dependent Enhancement (ADE). “ADE is a mechanism that increases the ability of a virus to enter cells and cause the worsening of a disease.”

Montagnier’s views, which are shared by Belgium virologist Geert Vanden Bossche and have been reported on extensively by UncoverDC, further suggest that ADE occurs when the antibodies generated during an immune response recognize and bind to a pathogen but are unable to prevent infection. Instead, these antibodies act as a “Trojan horse,” allowing the pathogen to penetrate the cells and exacerbate the immune response, thus increasing the severity of the virus. Montagnier asserts that data from around the world confirms ADE occurs in SARS-CoV-2, saying:

“You see it in each country, it’s the same: the curve of vaccination is followed by the curve of deaths. I’m following this closely and I am doing experiments at the Institute with patients who became sick with Corona after being vaccinated.”

Petition to Israel’s Supreme Court & Continued ADE Research
To combat the COVID-19 pandemic, Israelunveiled one of the fastest and most extensive vaccination campaigns in the world. In late March 2021, Montagnier joined a petitionsubmitted to Israel’s Supreme Court by Nakim.org founders Dr. Hervé Seligmann and Haim Yativ seeking to halt the country’s COVID-19 vaccine campaign. Montagnier contacted Seligman and Yativ following publications on the Nakim website concerning the high death rate following Pfizer’s “vaccine.” He concludes his opinion with the words: “In the face of an unpredictable future, it is better to abstain.”

In the United States, vaccines recommended on the vaccine schedule do not induce ADE. If they did, the vaccine would be excluded from the program. Before a vaccine is approved for use, Phase III clinical trials of novel vaccines are intended to uncover frequent or critical side effects. Furthermore, it typically takes several years to assess whether a vaccine is safe, but with COVID-19 vaccines, manufacturers spent around six months or less for testing. The experimental vaccines are being administered under emergency use authorization (EUA). Still, despite warnings from experts and a growing list of incidents worthy of a closer look, the Pfizer mRNA vaccine received FDA approval today.

In the video (and transcript) below, the Nobel Laureate reiterates that he is doing his own investigation surrounding those who become infected with the coronavirus after getting a vaccine. He declares, “I will show you that they are creating the variants that are resistant to the vaccine.”
 

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First, let me ask you if you had a C 19 vaccine? And if so have you had a before and after shot of your blood under magnification? And if so please share the results with us!
Yes, I have had C 19, No I have not had a picture of my blood. You have misunderstood my post. A researcher who worked on the vaccine has posted an alarming interview where he says that the vaccine is a kill shot, it causes a degradation of the blood vessels and simply by looking at the blood you can calculate how many years until you die. This is the basis of some saying 90% will die and it is also the basis for people using the term "kill shot". My point is we can easily undermine this fear mongering if those who have had the vaccine would simply get a picture of their blood (I have not had the vaccine shot)
 

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Yes, I have had C 19, No I have not had a picture of my blood. You have misunderstood my post. A researcher who worked on the vaccine has posted an alarming interview where he says that the vaccine is a kill shot, it causes a degradation of the blood vessels and simply by looking at the blood you can calculate how many years until you die. This is the basis of some saying 90% will die and it is also the basis for people using the term "kill shot". My point is we can easily undermine this fear mongering if those who have had the vaccine would simply get a picture of their blood (I have not had the vaccine shot)

It would need to be done quickly also because the human body reproduces blood cells because they only live about 120 days before they die and are flushed out. https://www.mskcc.org/cancer-care/patient-education/facts-about-blood-and-blood-cells
 

ZNP

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It would need to be done quickly also because the human body reproduces blood cells because they only live about 120 days before they die and are flushed out. https://www.mskcc.org/cancer-care/patient-education/facts-about-blood-and-blood-cells
No, that is not how I understood the interview. He said that the spike proteins will cause blood vessels to be ruptured (degradation of the red blood cells) and with each shot you get the amount of degradation increases. The spike proteins are toxic and wherever they go they will cause degradation. The reason many people are getting heart problems is because these proteins are lodging themselves in the veins and arteries. I am not a doctor so my terminology is poor, but I'm pretty sure that is the gist of his point.
 

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No, that is not how I understood the interview. He said that the spike proteins will cause blood vessels to be ruptured (degradation of the red blood cells) and with each shot you get the amount of degradation increases. The spike proteins are toxic and wherever they go they will cause degradation. The reason many people are getting heart problems is because these proteins are lodging themselves in the veins and arteries. I am not a doctor so my terminology is poor, but I'm pretty sure that is the gist of his point.

Maybe that explains why they are no longer thinking we will achieve herd immunity then. if so then it would make no difference if the person were vaccinated or not the spike proteins will cause the same damage either way.
 
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