Please pray for the Afrikaner people.

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So as I explained in the "New cc member" forum I come from South-Africa.

South-Africa seems to be the next great communist experiment but of course before it can get into full swing, Christian people have to be "put in their place" so that they won't interfere with party business.

My people being traditionally Reformed Christians are under attack on all levels of society. I will not go into details of the levels of political and cultural extermination rather I want to point out the physical thread threat they are under.
Farm attacks and murders are at the order of the day. But also in the suburbs and in town families are exterminated.

Two weeks ago a Movie made about the issue of farm murders won two awards in Amsterdam, if you are interested in the psychological extent of the matter I recommend this film. It's not for the faint hearted however.

Lauren Southern an American journalist also travelled to South-Africa to make this documentary: Farmlands.

My request here is that you pray for my people, not because they are the greatest Christians in the world (we are not, we fall very short and our disobedience is a terrible negative example to all other Christians :( ), not because we deserve any help from the Lord, rather it is His right to wipe us from the face of the earth and if He chooses to do it by the hand of these godless heathens than so be it. :confused:

Rather I request your intercession for my people because that the Name of the LORD is called out over us and we have nowhere else to run. For the people's sake who are being murdered but also for His Name's sake.

For the sake of Your name, O LORD, revive me. In Your righteousness, bring my soul out of trouble.
I'm sorry for the heavy topic, so I end with a satirical video by Gavin McInnes, at least it's a bit entertaining and conveys the extend of the problem. He uses the "F" word a lot and also some other words that might be regarded as swearing in your country, it is however without restriction on YouTube so I thought it could be shown here as well, but if you're offended by that kind of language don't press play. If a moderator tells me that it is not right I will also remove it, of course. Until then I call on freedom of expression and freedom of art to convey this very terrible message. :(

**video removed due to profanity**
 
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We have a long term missionary in South Africa. Ancestor worship is strong in the area.

For the cause of Christ
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What's the total of whites murdered there to date?
And farmers? Last I heard farmer murders were at one per week.

God be with and protect the Afrikaner people.
I wonder if anyone there is regretting the lifting of Apartheid laws?
 
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What's the total of whites murdered there to date?
And farmers? Last I heard farmer murders were at one per week.

God be with and protect the Afrikaner people.
I wonder if anyone there is regretting the lifting of Apartheid laws?
Well the ANC "government" doesn't file murders according to race, but seeing that Afrikaner people and white people in general only makes up about 9% of the population, the amount of murders that one can assume from word of mouth and news coverage, is totally disproportionate to that 9%.

But it must not be forgotten that black people (not all!!!) also murder each other. The small news article I'll try and post reports that 3195 women and children were murdered in South-Africa from 1st of January to 31st of March 2018. Only women and children, not men! That's about 35 per day. For them Apartheid i.e. law and order surely would have been better.

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AFRICACHECK
FACT CHECK Published: 8th May 2017 10:05 | Last updated: 16th March 2018 08:52 (GMT)

FACTSHEET: Statistics on farm attacks & murders in SA
Researched by Kate Wilkinson
Violent attacks on people living and working on farms in South Africa frequently make local and international headlines. This factsheet breaks down the available statistics and explores its limitations.

Reports: South Africa


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Violence against South Africa’s women, children: verifying claims at a men’s summit
 
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AFRICACHECK
FACT CHECK Published: 8th May 2017 10:05 | Last updated: 16th March 2018 08:52 (GMT)

FACTSHEET: Statistics on farm attacks & murders in SA
Researched by Kate Wilkinson
Violent attacks on people living and working on farms in South Africa frequently make local and international headlines. This factsheet breaks down the available statistics and explores its limitations.

Reports: South Africa


Latest ReportsRSS
Violence against South Africa’s women, children: verifying claims at a men’s summit
Thank you for the statistics. Like the report indicated it's getting more and more difficult to find statistics, government statistics especially can't be trusted.


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Thank you for the statistics. Like the report indicated it's getting more and more difficult to find statistics, government statistics especially can't be trusted.


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Can't imagine why. ;) God be with the Afrikaner people. And turn the hearts of those in the Afrikaner government that have the eyes to see but do not. The ears to hear but do not. And the mouths to speak truth, but do not.
 
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Can't imagine why. ;) God be with the Afrikaner people. And turn the hearts of those in the Afrikaner government that have the eyes to see but do not. The ears to hear but do not. And the mouths to speak truth, but do not.
It must be said it's not our government... the government is made up of Zulus and Xhosas mostly... we are just a minority in our own country. We have zero political influence.
Just for explanation's sake.
It's complicated.
 

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It must be said it's not our government... the government is made up of Zulus and Xhosas mostly... we are just a minority in our own country. We have zero political influence.
Just for explanation's sake.
It's complicated.
I bet it is. In America there's big issues with the history of the black people due to the slavery that was once in place here. Now the current generation and the few that remain alive from the former times of slavery, look to play the victim card. Talking about 'reparations' payments, the coinage of what is actually a racist identity and that is labeled to insult Caucasians; "white privilege".
Not to be overshadowed by the new derogatory label applied to heterosexuals; "hetero-privilege" or, "straight privilege".

I feel for SA.
I wonder if actor Will Smith and his family still have a home there given these conflicts? Seemed to that Dem. family the thing to do at one time.
But now?
 
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Sweden and South-Africa and the miscarriage of the Swedish dream.
 

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So sad to hear whats happening to the Afrikaners - sounds like SA wants to turn itself into the next Zimbabwe with the farm seizures!

 
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So sad to hear whats happening to the Afrikaners - sounds like SA wants to turn itself into the next Zimbabwe with the farm seizures!

Thanks for that, I've never seen that video.
Being on a Christian Website. I have to ask, what is the role and place of our Lord Jesus and also God the Father in this?
How is this or should this be interpreted from a Christian, Biblical point of view?
Are there no black christians in SA or in the world? What do they have to say about this?
What is the will of the Lord for us?
So many questions. :(
 
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PS. 119:65.
Great peace have they which love Thy Law: and nothing shall offend them.

PRO. 16:7.
When a man's ways please The LORD, He makes even his enemies to be at peace with him.

ISA. 9:7.
Of the increase of His government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David,
and upon His kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever.
The zeal of The LORD of Hosts will perform this.

HEB. 10:37.
For yet a little while, and He that shall come will come, and will not tarry.
 
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How long wilt thou forget me, O Lord ? for ever? how long wilt thou hide thy face from me? How long shall I take counsel in my soul, having sorrow in my heart daily? how long shall mine enemy be exalted over me? Consider and hear me, O Lord my God: lighten mine eyes, lest I sleep the sleep of death; Lest mine enemy say, I have prevailed against him; and those that trouble me rejoice when I am moved. But I have trusted in thy mercy; my heart shall rejoice in thy salvation. I will sing unto the Lord , because he hath dealt bountifully with me.
 
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beautiful, with Eternal Hope abounding...
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and we have nowhere else to run
Are you sure about that? Many people from Africa, black people, muslims are getting asylum in Germany and many other European countries.

Why cant you, white Christian farmers, who are originally from Europe, move back to Europe?
 
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Are you sure about that? Many people from Africa, black people, muslims are getting asylum in Germany and many other European countries.

Why cant you, white Christian farmers, who are originally from Europe, move back to Europe?
Yes I'm pretty sure.

I am an Afrikaner with a German name even but I had to fight a paper war of 9 months to get a Visa to come and marry my German wife. And that's an official effort, nothing to do with Asylum.

Recently the right-wing AfD party officially requested in German "Bundestag" (Parlament) to be informed whether the German government gives asylum status to fleeing Afrikaner people.
The "Bundestag" declined, saying that thy see no need for that. You can read the AfD official statement here and you can read some more about it here. Non of the countries our Ancestors came from grant us asylum or even help us because we have nothing to do with them or Europe, we are Afrikaners and South-Africa is our country. There are no white Afrikaner farmers originally from Europe, they are all from South-Africa. It will also be a catastrophe for South-Africa if all the white people left, the country will fall apart.

But you are right, many do flee to other countries, there are 10s of thousands in the USA, Canada, Australia and England. This however might still mean the end of a people. They will Assimilate into those cultures, their children will be English (I mean this also in the sense the Amish use the word "the English") so it means individual salvation but genocide non the less.
 

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Yes I'm pretty sure.

I am an Afrikaner with a German name even but I had to fight a paper war of 9 months to get a Visa to come and marry my German wife. And that's an official effort, nothing to do with Asylum.

Recently the right-wing AfD party officially requested in German "Bundestag" (Parlament) to be informed whether the German government gives asylum status to fleeing Afrikaner people.
The "Bundestag" declined, saying that thy see no need for that. You can read the AfD official statement here and you can read some more about it here. Non of the countries our Ancestors came from grant us asylum or even help us because we have nothing to do with them or Europe, we are Afrikaners and South-Africa is our country. There are no white Afrikaner farmers originally from Europe, they are all from South-Africa. It will also be a catastrophe for South-Africa if all the white people left, the country will fall apart.

But you are right, many do flee to other countries, there are 10s of thousands in the USA, Canada, Australia and England. This however might still mean the end of a people. They will Assimilate into those cultures, their children will be English (I mean this also in the sense the Amish use the word "the English") so it means individual salvation but genocide non the less.
You can try in 27 other EU countries. If your life is in danger, I think that the problem with "asimilation to English culture" is nothing in comparison...

Also, you can just live and work in other country, it does not have to be asylum, if they do not recognize your life is in danger and all the documentaries you posted in your OP...
 
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You can try in 27 other EU countries. If your life is in danger, I think that the problem with "asimilation to English culture" is nothing in comparison...

Also, you can just live and work in other country, it does not have to be asylum, if they do not recognize your life is in danger and all the documentaries you posted in your OP...
Yes, the only South-African I heard about that applied and got Asylum was a South-African english guy from Cape Town who said Black people want to kill him, he got asylum in Canada I think.

Most Afrikaner people go to non EU countries, English countries, because we've been colonised by the English so there's familiarity. I think the only english speaking country in the EU is Ireland.

Here's another interesting article I found about a family of 6 who got rejected. They were accused of racism because of reporting on the black on white violence in South-Africa.

But of course you are right, most people who can leave, also the thousands I mentioned, didn't and don't apply for asylum but just start jobs in other countries. Mostly engineers and intellectuals who have money to get up and go, others sell everything to get out. This leads to a so-called "brain drain" of the country.

Most Afrikaners however do not leave the country because they cannot and don't want to. Already, Steve Hofmeyr, a South-African actor has apologised for voting YES in the 1992 referendum and allowing communism to enter the country. There are 3 options:
1. Getting murdered and genocide while the world looks away. (For many this is the case already)
2. Leaving the country (For many this is the case)
3. War (The Afrikaner minority is trying to prevent this but it seems the ANC wants this.)

Surely the Lord knows a fourth way.