QAnon Is Destroying the GOP From Within says Sen. Ben Sasse (Rep.)

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Excerpts from Republican Ben Sasse's article in The Altantic:

Until last week, too many in the Republican Party thought they could preach the Constitution and wink at QAnon. They can’t.

January 6 is a new red-letter day in U.S. history, not just because it was the first time that the Capitol had been ransacked since the War of 1812, but because a subset of the invaders apparently were attempting to disrupt a constitutionally mandated meeting of Congress, kidnap the vice president, and somehow force him to declare Trump the victor in an election he lost. En route, the mob ultimately injured scores of law-enforcement officers. The attack led to the deaths of two officers and four other Americans. But the toll could have been much worse: Police located pipe bombs at the headquarters of both the Republican and Democratic National Committees. Investigators discovered a vehicle fully loaded with weaponry and what prosecutors are calling “homemade napalm bombs.”

The violence that Americans witnessed—and that might recur in the coming days—is not a protest gone awry or the work of “a few bad apples.” It is the blossoming of a rotten seed that took root in the Republican Party some time ago and has been nourished by treachery, poor political judgment, and cowardice. When Trump leaves office, my party faces a choice: We can dedicate ourselves to defending the Constitution and perpetuating our best American institutions and traditions, or we can be a party of conspiracy theories, cable-news fantasies, and the ruin that comes with them. We can be the party of Eisenhower, or the party of the conspiracist Alex Jones. We can applaud Officer Goodman or side with the mob he outwitted. We cannot do both.

The newly elected Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene is cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs. She once ranted that “there’s a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to take this global cabal of Satan-worshiping pedophiles out, and I think we have the president to do it.” During her campaign, House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy had a choice: disavow her campaign and potentially lose a Republican seat, or welcome her into his caucus and try to keep a lid on her ludicrous ideas. McCarthy failed the leadership test and sat on the sidelines. Now in Congress, Greene isn’t going to just back McCarthy as leader and stay quiet. She’s already announced plans to try to impeach Joe Biden on his first full day as president. She’ll keep making fools out of herself, her constituents, and the Republican Party.

Conspiracy theories are a substitute. Support Donald Trump and you are not merely participating in a mundane political process—that’s boring. Rather, you are waging war on a global sex-trafficking conspiracy! No one should be surprised that QAnon has found a partner in the empty, hypocritical, made-for-TV deviant strain of evangelicalism that runs on dopey apocalypse-mongering. (I still consider myself an evangelical, even though so many of my nominal co-religionists have emptied the term of all historic and theological meaning.) A conspiracy theory offers its devotees a way of inserting themselves into a cosmic battle pitting good against evil. This sense of vocation that makes it dangerous is also precisely what makes it attractive in our era of isolated, alienated consumerism.

Read the full article, it's well written at:

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/a...y-theories-will-doom-republican-party/617707/
 

Roughsoul1991

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Excerpts from Republican Ben Sasse's article in The Altantic:

Until last week, too many in the Republican Party thought they could preach the Constitution and wink at QAnon. They can’t.

January 6 is a new red-letter day in U.S. history, not just because it was the first time that the Capitol had been ransacked since the War of 1812, but because a subset of the invaders apparently were attempting to disrupt a constitutionally mandated meeting of Congress, kidnap the vice president, and somehow force him to declare Trump the victor in an election he lost. En route, the mob ultimately injured scores of law-enforcement officers. The attack led to the deaths of two officers and four other Americans. But the toll could have been much worse: Police located pipe bombs at the headquarters of both the Republican and Democratic National Committees. Investigators discovered a vehicle fully loaded with weaponry and what prosecutors are calling “homemade napalm bombs.”

The violence that Americans witnessed—and that might recur in the coming days—is not a protest gone awry or the work of “a few bad apples.” It is the blossoming of a rotten seed that took root in the Republican Party some time ago and has been nourished by treachery, poor political judgment, and cowardice. When Trump leaves office, my party faces a choice: We can dedicate ourselves to defending the Constitution and perpetuating our best American institutions and traditions, or we can be a party of conspiracy theories, cable-news fantasies, and the ruin that comes with them. We can be the party of Eisenhower, or the party of the conspiracist Alex Jones. We can applaud Officer Goodman or side with the mob he outwitted. We cannot do both.

The newly elected Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene is cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs. She once ranted that “there’s a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to take this global cabal of Satan-worshiping pedophiles out, and I think we have the president to do it.” During her campaign, House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy had a choice: disavow her campaign and potentially lose a Republican seat, or welcome her into his caucus and try to keep a lid on her ludicrous ideas. McCarthy failed the leadership test and sat on the sidelines. Now in Congress, Greene isn’t going to just back McCarthy as leader and stay quiet. She’s already announced plans to try to impeach Joe Biden on his first full day as president. She’ll keep making fools out of herself, her constituents, and the Republican Party.

Conspiracy theories are a substitute. Support Donald Trump and you are not merely participating in a mundane political process—that’s boring. Rather, you are waging war on a global sex-trafficking conspiracy! No one should be surprised that QAnon has found a partner in the empty, hypocritical, made-for-TV deviant strain of evangelicalism that runs on dopey apocalypse-mongering. (I still consider myself an evangelical, even though so many of my nominal co-religionists have emptied the term of all historic and theological meaning.) A conspiracy theory offers its devotees a way of inserting themselves into a cosmic battle pitting good against evil. This sense of vocation that makes it dangerous is also precisely what makes it attractive in our era of isolated, alienated consumerism.

Read the full article, it's well written at:

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/a...y-theories-will-doom-republican-party/617707/
Pastors need to address Qanon. They are more than just political or seekers of justice. They have end time prophetic events that they believed Trump would help usher in. The group makes it sound harmless as saying all you must do is search for the truth. But they are guided in what to search for. When they search for it, it leads to some known news event but then includes the conspiracy theories of others. Sometimes they throw in things like JFK's brother may not have died just to possibly get others to go further down their rabbit hole.

It is dangerous and their end time events are not Biblical. Be careful. This group needs to be studied in worldview, ideology, and theology. And then addressed through a Biblical worldview.

I have no doubt Epstein had a lot of people caught up in the sex trade, and that it goes much deeper than we could imagine. We have evidence for this. But to the depths of Qanon, I do not see strong enough evidence.

I am glad so many want to attack the pedophile and sex trade but all the other stuff is too much for me.
 

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Pastors need to address Qanon. They are more than just political or seekers of justice. They have end time prophetic events that they believed Trump would help usher in. The group makes it sound harmless as saying all you must do is search for the truth. But they are guided in what to search for. When they search for it, it leads to some known news event but then includes the conspiracy theories of others. Sometimes they throw in things like JFK's brother may not have died just to possibly get others to go further down their rabbit hole.

It is dangerous and their end time events are not Biblical. Be careful. This group needs to be studied in worldview, ideology, and theology. And then addressed through a Biblical worldview.

I have no doubt Epstein had a lot of people caught up in the sex trade, and that it goes much deeper than we could imagine. We have evidence for this. But to the depths of Qanon, I do not see strong enough evidence.

I am glad so many want to attack the pedophile and sex trade but all the other stuff is too much for me.
You think QAnon ( https://qalerts.app/ ) might be a Mosad psyop operation, to usher in the expected Jewish messiah (the false messiah / antichrist, to be faked as the return of Christ Yeshua as his faked second coming, for Christ Yeshua expecting Christians and Muslims), in the shape of a human being, here on earth? Who will be entering the temple in Jerusalem and proclaiming himself to be the only god to be worshipped, only after some time later, when the God-fearing Jews will also reject him as the antimessiah / antichrist, as they do not believe currently that their messiah should be worshipped, but that God (they believe in God the Father and God the Holy Spirit only currently, not in God's Son to be worshipped as Messiah) only shall be worshipped. Although they are currently still denying the Trinity of God the Father, Son Chist Yeshu and God's Holy Spirit - they will realise that Christ Yeshua is Messiah in the flesh of His glorified body, currently sitting in the flesh at the right hand of God the Father in Heaven / Paradise.

We Christians can not be deceived by a false messiah, as we know that when we see our Messiah Christ Yeshua again, it will be with us being in the clouds, in our raptured transfigured glorified bodies, together with the resurrected raptured believers in their glorified bodies.

After believers meet the true Jewish Messiah, Christ Yeshua, in the clouds, He descends to earth immediately afterwards to conquer the earth from all the unbeliever who remained after the rapture. He then establishes His Millennial Kingdom here on this earth. At the end of the Millennial Kingdom at its conclusion, satan will be released to gather the nations for the battle of Gog and Magog against Jerusalem's believers. God will struck them all down, and then we have the Great White Throne judgement, where the damned are thrown into the pool of fire, and the elect, saved by grace believers in Christ Yeshua, receives the inheritance of the new earth, new earth and new Jerusalem, where God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit will dwell with us until eternity.
 

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You think QAnon ( https://qalerts.app/ ) might be a Mosad psyop operation, to usher in the expected Jewish messiah (the false messiah / antichrist, to be faked as the return of Christ Yeshua as his faked second coming, for Christ Yeshua expecting Christians and Muslims), in the shape of a human being, here on earth? Who will be entering the temple in Jerusalem and proclaiming himself to be the only god to be worshipped, only after some time later, when the God-fearing Jews will also reject him as the antimessiah / antichrist, as they do not believe currently that their messiah should be worshipped, but that God (they believe in God the Father and God the Holy Spirit only currently, not in God's Son to be worshipped as Messiah) only shall be worshipped. Although they are currently still denying the Trinity of God the Father, Son Chist Yeshu and God's Holy Spirit - they will realise that Christ Yeshua is Messiah in the flesh of His glorified body, currently sitting in the flesh at the right hand of God the Father in Heaven / Paradise.

We Christians can not be deceived by a false messiah, as we know that when we see our Messiah Christ Yeshua again, it will be with us being in the clouds, in our raptured transfigured glorified bodies, together with the resurrected raptured believers in their glorified bodies.

After believers meet the true Jewish Messiah, Christ Yeshua, in the clouds, He descends to earth immediately afterwards to conquer the earth from all the unbeliever who remained after the rapture. He then establishes His Millennial Kingdom here on this earth. At the end of the Millennial Kingdom at its conclusion, satan will be released to gather the nations for the battle of Gog and Magog against Jerusalem's believers. God will struck them all down, and then we have the Great White Throne judgement, where the damned are thrown into the pool of fire, and the elect, saved by grace believers in Christ Yeshua, receives the inheritance of the new earth, new earth and new Jerusalem, where God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit will dwell with us until eternity.
I have no idea as to why I was saying this group needs to be studied in contrast to the Bible.

The only reason I know what I know is because my wife is in a womens online group and they suggested she watch one of the videos.

I overheard bits and pieces and you immediately get a brainwashing vibe from the video. It has a eerie set up.

But what really brought my attention was the end of the video and their telling of the end and how it will be ushered in. That immediately made me tell her to turn that mess off.
 
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Pastors need to address Qanon.
They should indeed.

The first line of the sermon should be this;

"QAnon offers false hope because it is a false movement based on false doctrine"
 

kaylagrl

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Excerpts from Republican Ben Sasse's article in The Altantic:

Until last week, too many in the Republican Party thought they could preach the Constitution and wink at QAnon. They can’t.

January 6 is a new red-letter day in U.S. history, not just because it was the first time that the Capitol had been ransacked since the War of 1812, but because a subset of the invaders apparently were attempting to disrupt a constitutionally mandated meeting of Congress, kidnap the vice president, and somehow force him to declare Trump the victor in an election he lost. En route, the mob ultimately injured scores of law-enforcement officers. The attack led to the deaths of two officers and four other Americans. But the toll could have been much worse: Police located pipe bombs at the headquarters of both the Republican and Democratic National Committees. Investigators discovered a vehicle fully loaded with weaponry and what prosecutors are calling “homemade napalm bombs.”

The violence that Americans witnessed—and that might recur in the coming days—is not a protest gone awry or the work of “a few bad apples.” It is the blossoming of a rotten seed that took root in the Republican Party some time ago and has been nourished by treachery, poor political judgment, and cowardice. When Trump leaves office, my party faces a choice: We can dedicate ourselves to defending the Constitution and perpetuating our best American institutions and traditions, or we can be a party of conspiracy theories, cable-news fantasies, and the ruin that comes with them. We can be the party of Eisenhower, or the party of the conspiracist Alex Jones. We can applaud Officer Goodman or side with the mob he outwitted. We cannot do both.

The newly elected Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene is cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs. She once ranted that “there’s a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to take this global cabal of Satan-worshiping pedophiles out, and I think we have the president to do it.” During her campaign, House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy had a choice: disavow her campaign and potentially lose a Republican seat, or welcome her into his caucus and try to keep a lid on her ludicrous ideas. McCarthy failed the leadership test and sat on the sidelines. Now in Congress, Greene isn’t going to just back McCarthy as leader and stay quiet. She’s already announced plans to try to impeach Joe Biden on his first full day as president. She’ll keep making fools out of herself, her constituents, and the Republican Party.

Conspiracy theories are a substitute. Support Donald Trump and you are not merely participating in a mundane political process—that’s boring. Rather, you are waging war on a global sex-trafficking conspiracy! No one should be surprised that QAnon has found a partner in the empty, hypocritical, made-for-TV deviant strain of evangelicalism that runs on dopey apocalypse-mongering. (I still consider myself an evangelical, even though so many of my nominal co-religionists have emptied the term of all historic and theological meaning.) A conspiracy theory offers its devotees a way of inserting themselves into a cosmic battle pitting good against evil. This sense of vocation that makes it dangerous is also precisely what makes it attractive in our era of isolated, alienated consumerism.

Read the full article, it's well written at:

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/a...y-theories-will-doom-republican-party/617707/


Very few conservatives have ever heard of Q let alone follow it, or him, whatever it is. A few may be looking it up now because it's being thrown around. The radical Dems are looking for a new enemy. They have 24/7 hatred of Trump on all their MSM, their entire lives and livelihoods depend on an enemy. We've often said in our family "what are they going to do when Trump leaves?" They are so bitter, so vile, so full of hate. Now they need to find a new enemy, and conservatives are it. The GOP knows it, and without the big dog on the porch they're running for cover to find a place to hide. Conservatives went from being called "deplorables" to Nazis in four short years. The national guard have descended en masse to Washington. Why? Why are there more military there than any place around the world right now? More than when this country was in a civil war? Because they need an enemy. They want the folks at home watching to know "these people are the enemy of the country, you can't trust them". No distinction is made, every single conservative is guilty and needs to be deprogramed. There is no disagreeing with the radical left. 70 buildings were burned to the ground in MN alone. Over 30 people were murdered, stores were looted, statues torn down, people were beaten in the streets, police were spit at, cursed at, had frozen water bottles thrown at them and batteries. All this was called "peaceful protesting". Harris encouraged people to bail these protesters out of jail, and they did. Fast forward to the capitol and see how in a few shorts weeks Dems have flipped the narrative. What was excusable for them is now insurrection. Every night they flash a picture of someone at the capitol who has been arrested. They want you to know, this is the enemy. You know a face that wasn't flashed on MSMs nightly shows?




Who is he?? The man accused of murdering David Dorn. A brief description says "Dorn was discovered on the sidewalk in front of Lee's Pawn and Jewelry...responding to the burglar alarm of his friend's pawn shop when he was fatally shot by looters. His death was streamed on Facebook Live.

The thirteen-minute video was briefly taken down by Facebook before being reinstated with a warning screen and has been viewed more than 94,000 times as of 3 June 2020. In the video, a young man states: "Oh my God, cuz....They just killed this old man at the pawn shop over some TVs....c'mon, man, that's somebody's granddaddy."
The video of Dorn, lying on the sidewalk in his own blood, dead can still be viewed on Youtube and Facebook. But they want you to know, conservatives are the enemy of the country. Trump had to be removed from FB, Twitter, Youtube. The video of a man lying in the street in his own blood dying can still be seen. The Bible talks about a strong delusion. I think some people are about to wake up really fast to reality. The question is which side you will stand on. Time will tell.
 

kaylagrl

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They should indeed.

The first line of the sermon should be this;

"QAnon offers false hope because it is a false movement based on false doctrine"

Mmm humm, and while they're at it they need to inform their congregation of the false hope and doctrine of socialism/communism that the radical left is pushing. And also that they are now considered an enemy in their own country. Loyalty to the one party system is now required, no dissenting opinions allowed.
 
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Excerpts from Republican Ben Sasse's article in The Altantic:

Until last week, too many in the Republican Party thought they could preach the Constitution and wink at QAnon. They can’t.

January 6 is a new red-letter day in U.S. history, not just because it was the first time that the Capitol had been ransacked since the War of 1812, but because a subset of the invaders apparently were attempting to disrupt a constitutionally mandated meeting of Congress, kidnap the vice president, and somehow force him to declare Trump the victor in an election he lost. En route, the mob ultimately injured scores of law-enforcement officers. The attack led to the deaths of two officers and four other Americans. But the toll could have been much worse: Police located pipe bombs at the headquarters of both the Republican and Democratic National Committees. Investigators discovered a vehicle fully loaded with weaponry and what prosecutors are calling “homemade napalm bombs.”

The violence that Americans witnessed—and that might recur in the coming days—is not a protest gone awry or the work of “a few bad apples.” It is the blossoming of a rotten seed that took root in the Republican Party some time ago and has been nourished by treachery, poor political judgment, and cowardice. When Trump leaves office, my party faces a choice: We can dedicate ourselves to defending the Constitution and perpetuating our best American institutions and traditions, or we can be a party of conspiracy theories, cable-news fantasies, and the ruin that comes with them. We can be the party of Eisenhower, or the party of the conspiracist Alex Jones. We can applaud Officer Goodman or side with the mob he outwitted. We cannot do both.

The newly elected Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene is cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs. She once ranted that “there’s a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to take this global cabal of Satan-worshiping pedophiles out, and I think we have the president to do it.” During her campaign, House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy had a choice: disavow her campaign and potentially lose a Republican seat, or welcome her into his caucus and try to keep a lid on her ludicrous ideas. McCarthy failed the leadership test and sat on the sidelines. Now in Congress, Greene isn’t going to just back McCarthy as leader and stay quiet. She’s already announced plans to try to impeach Joe Biden on his first full day as president. She’ll keep making fools out of herself, her constituents, and the Republican Party.

Conspiracy theories are a substitute. Support Donald Trump and you are not merely participating in a mundane political process—that’s boring. Rather, you are waging war on a global sex-trafficking conspiracy! No one should be surprised that QAnon has found a partner in the empty, hypocritical, made-for-TV deviant strain of evangelicalism that runs on dopey apocalypse-mongering. (I still consider myself an evangelical, even though so many of my nominal co-religionists have emptied the term of all historic and theological meaning.) A conspiracy theory offers its devotees a way of inserting themselves into a cosmic battle pitting good against evil. This sense of vocation that makes it dangerous is also precisely what makes it attractive in our era of isolated, alienated consumerism.

Read the full article, it's well written at:

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/a...y-theories-will-doom-republican-party/617707/
It has all the markings of a political and religious cult.
Their (whoever "they" may be) use of slogans has been very effective.

“You are the news now.”
“Enjoy the show"
"The calm before the storm"
"The Great Awakening"
"Were We Go One We Go All"

A conspiracy theory offers its devotees a way of inserting themselves into a cosmic battle pitting good against evil.
Yes of course, what better way to convince Christians than to make it the epic battle of all time.
QAnon against the deep state, against the socialists, the communists, the Clintons, foreign interference, the fascists etc., etc.,

QAnon's next drop...



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Mmm humm, and while they're at it they need to inform their congregation of the false hope and doctrine of socialism/communism that the radical left is pushing. And also that they are now considered an enemy in their own country. Loyalty to the one party system is now required, no dissenting opinions allowed.
Maybe this article will help you, read carefully!

Enough is Enough

Moreover, too many people—including within the church—have used apocalyptic language for everything except the actual Apocalypse. Every election is supposed to be the last one for our freedom. Every group of people with whom we disagree are just about to destroy the country irreparably. Every election is supposed to be the last one for our freedom.

Every group of people with whom we disagree are just about to destroy the country irreparably. And what is the result of a Flight 93 Lifestyle? An entire generation of people who have grown cynical because they know that not only do such things not end up happening—the next existential crisis means the last one is forgotten—but also because they know that, quite often, the people saying such things don’t believe it themselves.

CURRENT EVENTS
The Gospel in a Democracy Under Assault
https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/the-gospel-in-a-democracy-under-assault/
 

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They should indeed.

The first line of the sermon should be this;

"QAnon offers false hope because it is a false movement based on false doctrine"
What is the doctrine of QAnon, and why false?
 

Roughsoul1991

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They should indeed.

The first line of the sermon should be this;

"QAnon offers false hope because it is a false movement based on false doctrine"
It is like anything of the world. They play on people's fears or desires. It is another worldview with ideological roots. Post-modernism, Scientology, Marxism, socialism, etc all feed off of the world, the lies, fears, desires, or even the needy who just want have food on the table.


2 Timothy 4:3-4
3 For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. 4 They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.
 
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Maybe this article will help you, read carefully!

Enough is Enough

Moreover, too many people—including within the church—have used apocalyptic language for everything except the actual Apocalypse. Every election is supposed to be the last one for our freedom. Every group of people with whom we disagree are just about to destroy the country irreparably. Every election is supposed to be the last one for our freedom.

Every group of people with whom we disagree are just about to destroy the country irreparably. And what is the result of a Flight 93 Lifestyle? An entire generation of people who have grown cynical because they know that not only do such things not end up happening—the next existential crisis means the last one is forgotten—but also because they know that, quite often, the people saying such things don’t believe it themselves.

CURRENT EVENTS
The Gospel in a Democracy Under Assault
https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/the-gospel-in-a-democracy-under-assault/
Good read, thanks for posting the link. From the writer of the article:

"Any leader can have a peaceful life if he or she just pretends to be outraged by the “right” things, and remains silent about things that are truly outrageous."
 
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Mmm humm, and while they're at it they need to inform their congregation of the false hope and doctrine of socialism/communism that the radical left is pushing. And also that they are now considered an enemy in their own country. Loyalty to the one party system is now required, no dissenting opinions allowed.
Me thinks you have communism tourettes. The new McCarthyism.
 

kaylagrl

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Maybe this article will help you, read carefully!

Enough is Enough

Moreover, too many people—including within the church—have used apocalyptic language for everything except the actual Apocalypse. Every election is supposed to be the last one for our freedom. Every group of people with whom we disagree are just about to destroy the country irreparably. Every election is supposed to be the last one for our freedom.

Every group of people with whom we disagree are just about to destroy the country irreparably. And what is the result of a Flight 93 Lifestyle? An entire generation of people who have grown cynical because they know that not only do such things not end up happening—the next existential crisis means the last one is forgotten—but also because they know that, quite often, the people saying such things don’t believe it themselves.

CURRENT EVENTS
The Gospel in a Democracy Under Assault
https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/the-gospel-in-a-democracy-under-assault/

I disagree with Kellers theology, I don't view the world through a Calvinist lens. While I respect many here that believe that theology, I do not believe in it myself. TGC therefore does not have the same theology or worldview that I have. Laying that aside, have you read anything, or listened to, the radical agenda of the left? We had a discussion here about a few hot button issues and when I hear people's answers to some of these issues I realize their worldview is not a Biblical one. Either that or they are utterly uninformed. Many Christians here supported, and still support, BLM despite the fact that they themselves have said they are Marxist, they are lesbian and are against the "nuclear family" and for supporting transgenders. Yet people here argued up and down that if you did not support this movement you were racist. You and your gospel coalition can turn a blind eye to it. That is totally your choice. But you're going to have to excuse those of us on the watch tower (not Mormon!) that see what's coming under the next gov't. Since you don't live here you can take whatever side you choose, it makes no difference whatsoever to you if we loose our freedom of speech or right to bear arms. It makes no difference to your life, you can sit and pontificate all day long, it's just empty talk. Believe whatever you wish. Your thoughts have no bearing on the situation at all. When you move here, we'll take your POV seriously. Otherwise, you have nothing to add to the conversation.
 

kaylagrl

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Me thinks you have communism tourettes. The new McCarthyism.
I doubt you thinks at all. I also doubt the Chinese people saw 1949 coming, or the Cubans 1959, or the Jews 1933. You may not take your rights and freedoms seriously, I do. When someone tells you who they are,believe them.I believe the radical Dems and their agenda. Mc Carthy made suppositions, I'm listening to what they are saying. Apparently you are not!!
 

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What is the doctrine of QAnon, and why false?
Qanon is a friend group of lunatics who keeps spreading bat poop crazy conspiracy theories
And they need to be held accountable for the damage they have caused
 
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This isn't nice to use a mental disorder as a joke.
It wasn't a joke, merely an observation of the right wing Christians that associate anything with the democratic party with communism. It's a disorder in itself.
 

kaylagrl

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This isn't nice to use a mental disorder as a joke.

I'm wondering why two of the loudest voices here on America politics are from Canada? Trudeau has caused enough issues to keep them busy and minding politics in their own country. Yet they're here screaming about Trump. The hatred is astounding to me. Yet at least one of them claims they are Christians. Quite unbelievable when you think about it. Their opinions mean nothing, they don't have to worry about losing their rights and freedoms. They can sit back and laugh. Right to bear arms means nothing to them, their freedom of speech is limited. Why they even bother giving an opinion I don't know. I'm inclinded more and more to ignore them. They have nothing to offer because they won't have to live under whatever party is in office here.