Remember, remember, the 5th of November...

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What should be done about the vote fraud committed in the US?

  • Nothing. I support the Democrats, and feel they should be allowed to win elections by any means.

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  • Maybe a token slap on the wrist for a few perpetrators to appease the voting public, but no more.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Ensure that a severe punishment is meted out for obvious criminals, but no investigation necessary.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
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Moses_Young

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"Remember, remember, the Fifth of November
Gunpowder treason and plot
I see no reason why gunpowder treason
Should ever be forgot"

In Britain, Guy Fawkes Day is a holiday that memorializes a revolutionary group’s plot to bring down the government. 415 years later, different country, different revolutionary group, slightly different tools, but the revolutionaries themselves remain.

How best to deal with today's socialist revolutionaries?
 
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kaylagrl

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"Remember, remember, the Fifth of November
Gunpowder treason and plot
I see no reason why gunpowder treason
Should ever be forgot"

In Britain, Guy Fawkes Day is a holiday that memorializes a revolutionary group’s plot to bring down the government. 415 years later, different country, different revolutionary group, slightly different tools, but the revolutionaries themselves remain.

How best to deal with today's socialist revolutionaries?


If America is to ever have confidence in elections again, this needs to be dealt with. My answer would be the last two choices. Even the Dems are mad at their losses because they were told they were going to sweep up and gain the house and senate both. This must stop. This isn't a third world country and there has to be no doubt in the minds of honest citizens who care about the country from either side. No one should want a win by cheating.
 

Roughsoul1991

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If America is to ever have confidence in elections again, this needs to be dealt with. My answer would be the last two choices. Even the Dems are mad at their losses because they were told they were going to sweep up and gain the house and senate both. This must stop. This isn't a third world country and there has to be no doubt in the minds of honest citizens who care about the country from either side. No one should want a win by cheating.
Exactly. First cheating. Then to come is gain power by force if cheating fails.
 

Smoke

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We can start by updating and upgrading the way we vote. This isn't 1950 anymore... Surely we can have a method to vote that would:

1.) verify we are an American citizen
2.) verify we are a citizen of the state we are voting in
3.) verify we are only voting in one state (the state we live in)
4.) verify the voter is still alive
5.) verify the voter voted within a specific time frame (whenever polls open to whenever they close)
6.) automatically update the number of votes per candidate instantaneously in live time
7.) allow voters to verify their vote was successfully entered and counted for the candidate they chose AFTER voting

The IRS doesn't use propriety software designed by geniuses from Silicon Valley... yet, they can verify a great many things about who owes what and how much... Yet, we are still using paper ballots that we hand off to a person and/or put in a machine and snail mailing ballots across the world.

This shouldn't be a partisan issue either. Both sides should want a better updated and upgraded voting system. Trump 100% believed they tried to steal the 2016 election from him but didn't ask the Republican House and Senate to pass legislation updating the voting system. This should have been done and this needs to be down now.
 

stepbystep

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The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.

Thomas Jefferson
 

stepbystep

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“All that is necessary for evil to succeed is that good men do nothing.”

Edmund Burk
 

stepbystep

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“I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing, and as necessary in the political world as storms in the physical.

Unsuccessful rebellions indeed generally establish the incroachments on the rights of the people which have produced them. An observation of this truth should render honest republican governors so mild in their punishment of rebellions, as not to discourage them too much.

It is a medicine necessary for the sound health of government.”

Thomas Jefferson
 

stepbystep

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“We must support our rights or lose our character, and with it, perhaps, our liberties. A people who fail to do it can scarcely be said to hold a place among independent nations.

National honor is national property of the highest value. The sentiment in the mind of every citizen is national strength. It ought therefore to be cherished.”

James Monroe
 

stepbystep

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“It is to be regretted that the rich and powerful too often bend the acts of government to their selfish purposes. Distinctions in society will always exist under every just government. Equality of talents, of education, or of wealth can not be produced by human institutions.

In the full enjoyment of the gifts of Heaven and the fruits of superior industry, economy, and virtue, every man is equally entitled to protection by law; but when the laws undertake to add to these natural and just advantages artificial distinctions, to grant titles, gratuities, and exclusive privileges, to make the rich richer and the potent more powerful, the humble members of society-the farmers, mechanics, and laborers-who have neither the time nor the means of securing like favors to themselves, have a right to complain of the injustice of their Government.

There are no necessary evils in government. Its evils exist only in its abuses. If it would confine itself to equal protection, and, as Heaven does its rains, shower its favors alike on the high and the low, the rich and the poor, it would be an unqualified blessing. In the act before me there seems to be a wide and unnecessary departure from these just principles.

Andrew Jackson
 

stepbystep

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“The people are the best guardians of their own rights and it is the duty of their Executive to abstain from interfering in or thwarting the sacred exercise of the law-making functions of their Government.”

William Henry Harrison
 

stepbystep

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“There is more selfishness and less principle among members of Congress, as well as others, than I had any conception of, before I became President of the U.S.”

James K. Polk
 

stepbystep

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“The people — the people — are the rightful masters of both congresses, and courts — not to overthrow the constitution, but to overthrow the men who pervert it.”

Abraham Lincoln
 

stepbystep

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“God forbid that the day should ever come when, in the American mind, the thought of man as a ‘consumer’ shall submerge the old American thought of man as a creature of God, endowed with ‘unalienable rights’.”

Benjamin Harrison
 
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If America is to ever have confidence in elections again, this needs to be dealt with. My answer would be the last two choices. Even the Dems are mad at their losses because they were told they were going to sweep up and gain the house and senate both. This must stop. This isn't a third world country and there has to be no doubt in the minds of honest citizens who care about the country from either side. No one should want a win by cheating.
EVIDENCE.

Show me evidence.

Conspiracy theories do not win elections and do not justify accusations. Evidence does.

Show me evidence.

Prove it.

that's me, hollering from the choir loft...
 

Roughsoul1991

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“I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing, and as necessary in the political world as storms in the physical.

Unsuccessful rebellions indeed generally establish the incroachments on the rights of the people which have produced them. An observation of this truth should render honest republican governors so mild in their punishment of rebellions, as not to discourage them too much.

It is a medicine necessary for the sound health of government.”

Thomas Jefferson
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kaylagrl

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EVIDENCE.

Show me evidence.

Conspiracy theories do not win elections and do not justify accusations. Evidence does.

Show me evidence.

Prove it.

that's me, hollering from the choir loft...
Umm, you know that the loft is for singing right? Not my job to prove anything, that's up to the lawyers. Ain't over till it's over.
 

Roughsoul1991

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Umm, you know that the loft is for singing right? Not my job to prove anything, that's up to the lawyers. Ain't over till it's over.
The evidence is in the headlines. No voter ID ballots, ballots with registration issues, ballots thrown away, ballots being driven into Canada, systemic glitches that switched Republican votes to Democrat, lack of transparency in late night counting sessions, one win has already switched from Democrat to Republican, voting after the polls ended, dead people voting, and much more. Anyone who reads this can search each statement to find the news articles.
 
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The scripture says, "He controls the course of world events; He removes kings and sets up other kings. He gives wisdom to the wise and knowledge to the scholars". Daniel 2:21 NLT

In other words, God has spoken...let the Church say AMEN

Joseph R. Biden Jr. Elected 46TH President
 

Roughsoul1991

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The scripture says, "He controls the course of world events; He removes kings and sets up other kings. He gives wisdom to the wise and knowledge to the scholars". Daniel 2:21 NLT

In other words, God has spoken...let the Church say AMEN

Joseph R. Biden Jr. Elected 46TH President
The corrupt media has spoken. You seem mighty excited for an evil party to hold office. This isn't over until Trump stops fighting, the courts rule on the matter, and the investigations stop. They are planning to hit the courts hard starting Monday. Only legal votes should be counted. Period.
 
Sep 3, 2016
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The corrupt media has spoken. You seem mighty excited for an evil party to hold office. This isn't over until Trump stops fighting, the courts rule on the matter, and the investigations stop. They are planning to hit the courts hard starting Monday. Only legal votes should be counted. Period.
In the world, you shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world (He did this through the Cross [Col. 2:14-15], so may we overcome the world). John 16:33

The world is totally opposed because its system is solely of Satan. Things may look dark, however, despite how they look, everything is under control; trust and keep your faith placed and maintained exclusively in Christ and His Finished Work at Calvary Cross where the victory was won, and receive the works of righteousness which are peace; the effect of righteousness quietness and assurance forever. Isa. 32:17