Russia preparing for war

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Lanolin

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well, for a christian site you sure dont seem to have any ideas how to make peace or love your enemies.
 

Lanolin

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Vengeance is mine says the Lord,
its not even the anti-christ role to foster peace
Actually it is Christian to love ones enemies and to leave venegeance up to the Lord.

The anti-christ is anyone that is against Christians. So many people get confused about this and then start atributing what satan does (steal, kill and destroy) to christians. Um hello.
 

Lanolin

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Ok I'll tell you what worked in my country

the british invaded when the maori were already living here. At first it was peaceful and they had trade and everything. But they didnt reckon with the maori warlike character. The Maori coveted the new guns the brits had, and pretty much went to war amongst themselves till they were decimated, war being like the fun thing to do.

the brits wanted to take over the land and thought well of the maori are going to die out through figting ech other and disease etc we can annexe the land and take it for ourselves as a colony. so I know lets start a war and invade their lands! We have more guns than they do...so thats what they did.

by force they took the land. now the maori have lost a lot of their land and their sovereignty and have to adjust to biritish way of life. But they managed to keep a bit of representation in parliament. so thats where the battle is...now.

Guns are not used much anymore. But the brits also introduced the maori to a game called rugby. and this is where the maori are happy to play for the nation and represent and are some of the best rugby players.

I think as long as maori can continure to play rugby for the nation we'll have peace. But that was threatened when south africa had this racist policy in which only ' whites' could play rugby. And they tried to tour with this racist agenda. Which meant maori were not treated with the same respect.

this was back in 1981 and there was a full blown riot and protests and the nation nearly was divided all because of some other countries racist policy.
 

Lanolin

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I find americans musicals a bit hokey and twee in much the same way that people laugh at ballet.
Have you seen West Side story? lol

but I think production wise, americans can be quite slick and make absolutely amazing movies when they put their minds to it, aside from all the shlock.

But that is why maybe chess or soccer would appeal more since some people are dismissive of the arts. As a way to foster peace.

Unless you have a better idea.
 

Lanolin

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War and Peace by Tolstoy
Crime and Punishment by Dosteoyeskvy

the musical. A russian/american collaboration. Could happen. Maybe. Put your biggest Hollywood stars in it. It could put Russia on the map, make them billions of roubles, reinvograte their tourist industry if they STOP invading other countries.
 

ZNP

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1. We are closer than ever before to a nuclear exchange — refers to Zechariah





2. NATO and US pledged not to help Ukraine with soldiers, boots on the ground or weapons.





3. Things are escalating to a much more dangerous war than a week ago.





4. If Russia turns off the nuclear power plant then 1/5th of Ukraine will have no electricity.





5. Why is Putin invading — Putin said Ukraine should not join NATO, every NATO member added recently — all foreign soldiers leave those bases, all American bases with Nuclear weapons out of Europe.





He also calls the Ukraine soldiers as Nazi’s which means they are biased against Russians. They must accept the territories Russia already occupies as independent regions.
 

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There is some simplistic questions concerning this attack. Many want to know if this is what was prophesied in Ezekiel 38, however, before you answer that you have to understand what is Ezekiel 38.

The description is very similar to the war in Armageddon but definitely has a couple of very clear differences. First, there is no mention of all the kings of the Earth but rather some very specific ones. Second, there is this weird reference to Israel living off of the scraps from this battle for 7 years, that seems very different from Armageddon, who wants to fish around for stuff under all that blood? Also, Armageddon is at the end of the Great Tribulation whereas this seven year period suggests this battle ends at the beginning of the tribulation. As a result I subscribe to the view that Ezekiel 38 is not talking about Armageddon, rather it is talking about a major event that sets the stage for the Antichrist to confirm the covenant with the many for seven years, the 70th week of Daniel's prophecy.

OK, with that as the context of what we are talking about, a war that precedes the tribulation I do believe that this battle in Ukraine leads to that. If you understand Putin's demands of Ukraine, the US and NATO you realize he is saying he wants to be top dog and he can't be top dog without controlling the Mid East. Read his demands to US and NATO and the only way they submit is to bend the knee to Putin. The only way you control countries is if you control energy, so he needs to move on to the Mid East or he needs to accept defeat. Putin has made it very clear he is all in, he is going for broke, there is no turning back for him.
 

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There is some simplistic questions concerning this attack. Many want to know if this is what was prophesied in Ezekiel 38, however, before you answer that you have to understand what is Ezekiel 38.

The description is very similar to the war in Armageddon but definitely has a couple of very clear differences. First, there is no mention of all the kings of the Earth but rather some very specific ones. Second, there is this weird reference to Israel living off of the scraps from this battle for 7 years, that seems very different from Armageddon, who wants to fish around for stuff under all that blood? Also, Armageddon is at the end of the Great Tribulation whereas this seven year period suggests this battle ends at the beginning of the tribulation. As a result I subscribe to the view that Ezekiel 38 is not talking about Armageddon, rather it is talking about a major event that sets the stage for the Antichrist to confirm the covenant with the many for seven years, the 70th week of Daniel's prophecy.

OK, with that as the context of what we are talking about, a war that precedes the tribulation I do believe that this battle in Ukraine leads to that. If you understand Putin's demands of Ukraine, the US and NATO you realize he is saying he wants to be top dog and he can't be top dog without controlling the Mid East. Read his demands to US and NATO and the only way they submit is to bend the knee to Putin. The only way you control countries is if you control energy, so he needs to move on to the Mid East or he needs to accept defeat. Putin has made it very clear he is all in, he is going for broke, there is no turning back for him.
Hi ZNP,

I agree with most of what you say. However `living off the scraps` is not what is meant here -

`Those who dwell in the cities of Israel will go out and set fire and burn the weapons,.....and they will make fires with them for seven years.` (Ez. 39: 9)
 

ZNP

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Hi ZNP,

I agree with most of what you say. However `living off the scraps` is not what is meant here -

`Those who dwell in the cities of Israel will go out and set fire and burn the weapons,.....and they will make fires with them for seven years.` (Ez. 39: 9)
There are a variety of interpretations, basically that they get fuel that lasts for seven years. I heard someone explain how nuclear fuel would last for 7 years. I don't know what this means, what exactly they are burning for seven years, but I do believe it means God delivers a gift to Israel with this army and it will supply them for 7 years with fuel for fire.
 

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Hi ZNP,

perhaps you can explain more of what you mean - `living ff the scraps?` Thank you.

Oh I see you have just posted now. Ok I understand better now what you mean. I have heard that there is compressed wood as strong as steel. Have you heard of that? Perhaps the weapons and vehicles have been made of this compressed wood.
 
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Shake me and wake me, will ya already?
 

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Scientists Have Developed a Way to Make Wood as Strong as Steel
DAVID NIELD

9 FEBRUARY 2018

Scientists have developed a new type of "super wood" that is more than 10 times stronger and tougher than normal wood - and this innovation could potentially become a natural and inexpensive substitute for steel and other materials.

Key to the new wood's superpowers is a special chemical treatment followed by a heated compression process. The resulting chemical bonds make the wood strong enough to one day be used in buildings and vehicles.

It could even take a turn in new armour plating – the researchers fired bullet-like projectiles at their new super wood and found they got lodged in the material rather than blasting their way through, as they did with standard-strength wood.
 

ZNP

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Scientists Have Developed a Way to Make Wood as Strong as Steel
DAVID NIELD

9 FEBRUARY 2018

Scientists have developed a new type of "super wood" that is more than 10 times stronger and tougher than normal wood - and this innovation could potentially become a natural and inexpensive substitute for steel and other materials.

Key to the new wood's superpowers is a special chemical treatment followed by a heated compression process. The resulting chemical bonds make the wood strong enough to one day be used in buildings and vehicles.

It could even take a turn in new armour plating – the researchers fired bullet-like projectiles at their new super wood and found they got lodged in the material rather than blasting their way through, as they did with standard-strength wood.
You can also burn steel with thermite
 

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Vengeance is mine says the Lord,
its not even the anti-christ role to foster peace
Actually it is Christian to love ones enemies and to leave venegeance up to the Lord.

The anti-christ is anyone that is against Christians. So many people get confused about this and then start atributing what satan does (steal, kill and destroy) to christians. Um hello.
That is not the Scripture definition of antichrist.

1Jn 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
1Jn 4:2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
1Jn 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
2Jn 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.