Samaritan's Purse getting kicked out of New York, not allowed to help Covid patients

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acts5_29

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This Christian organization set up shop in Central Park in New York City quite some time ago, to help people afflicted with Covid. As you know, their hospital system was inundated, having trouble accommodating everybody. So health care workers from out-of-state came in to help, through the Samaritan's Purse organization.

New York City is kicking them out because of their Christian values. The volunteers are required to profess Christian values in order to be a part, including such things as marriage between one man and one woman. However, Samaritan's Purse never turned away patients based on religion, race, or sexual orientation. They helped everybody in need. Hope Rising just got done raising $1.6 million to help Samaritan's Purse.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...fter-councilman-called-on-group-to-leave-city


Also, Governor Cuomo is saying the volunteers are now required to pay state income tax. They were working in the state for more than 14 days, so they are required. They don't get an exception because they were assisting New York with Covid.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...ork-with-pandemic-must-pay-state-income-taxes


They are in the middle of tearing down their field tents now. Existing patients are being allowed to stay until their cases complete. I guess New York cannot be helped.
 
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Unbelievable! Aren’t the Samaritans a not for profit organization? And if so they are exempt from taxes correct?
 

wolfwint

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This Christian organization set up shop in Central Park in New York City quite some time ago, to help people afflicted with Covid. As you know, their hospital system was inundated, having trouble accommodating everybody. So health care workers from out-of-state came in to help, through the Samaritan's Purse organization.

New York City is kicking them out because of their Christian values. The volunteers are required to profess Christian values in order to be a part, including such things as marriage between one man and one woman. However, Samaritan's Purse never turned away patients based on religion, race, or sexual orientation. They helped everybody in need. Hope Rising just got done raising $1.6 million to help Samaritan's Purse.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...fter-councilman-called-on-group-to-leave-city


Also, Governor Cuomo is saying the volunteers are now required to pay state income tax. They were working in the state for more than 14 days, so they are required. They don't get an exception because they were assisting New York with Covid.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...ork-with-pandemic-must-pay-state-income-taxes


They are in the middle of tearing down their field tents now. Existing patients are being allowed to stay until their cases complete. I guess New York cannot be helped.
Thats realy Strange! Is this because of democrate domination?
 

Nehemiah6

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Nehemiah6

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I guess New York cannot be helped.
Correct. What no one seems to have done is to analyze why New York state and NYC were the hardest hit (along with New Jersey). There must be both a spiritual and a political reason (or reasons) why the ones who blithely violated the laws of the land, while making evil laws before the pandemic, were hit the hardest.
 

p_rehbein

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It's New York, they are Christian...............anyone surprised?

Here's a question..............did the State of New York tell the Medical persons who came from other States and worked there for weeks that THEY had to pay taxes?

No idea, but...........if they didn't, then Mr. Graham and his Organization should file a Discrimination Suit, right?
 

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Rev Graham's organization did what any Christian organization. He provided a service to a community, no strings attached. Today he said that the organization will pay the employee's taxes, and if called on to respond again, they would do so, no strings attached.
 
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It's New York, they are Christian...............anyone surprised?

Here's a question..............did the State of New York tell the Medical persons who came from other States and worked there for weeks that THEY had to pay taxes?

No idea, but...........if they didn't, then Mr. Graham and his Organization should file a Discrimination Suit, right?
From everything I've read its not just SP that is being taxed, anyone who came for 2 weeks or more is subject to filing NY state taxes....you'd think they'd drop "business as usual" type rules during a pandemic, but that's bureaucracy.
 

shittim

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Bureaucracy and lack of Godly thinking, have heard for years of prophetic insight that New York City will be lost, this could be transpiring in our time, seems those I know at my age who are not His have been allowed to become an example of what happens when we are by default given to the adversary, recall the mayor claiming God did not heal anyone?
 

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We were watching a news update from Chicago a few weeks ago.
They were talking about all the new ventilators and equipment that had come in donated from California (sorry, I find that hard to believe) and another state (forget where, but also unlikely....) as well as blankets and needed supplies.
As the camera was going around the room you see all this stuff, slowly being shown off. UNTIL a folded blanket with a SAMARITANS PURSE symbol and a pile of their pamphlets beside it came into view. THAT was cut off from view quicker than the blink of an eye!!!!
 

shittim

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It is a last of the last days kind of thing. Thank you for the heads up.
 

acts5_29

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It's New York, they are Christian...............anyone surprised?
Actually, I am surprised. NYC is in the middle of the Covid crisis. People are dying. Even the leaders who make these decisions are personally at risk. Their hospitals are inundated, and Samaritan's Purse wanted to help. Surely they would have laid down their swords this one time? Do it for the New Yorkers who need the help.

I think we are past the point of "bureaucracy" being the problem. At this point, it's corruption, thinly veiled behind "bureaucracy," plain and simple.

What I find even more absurd about the taxing is, Cuomo says the VOLUNTEERS must pay state income tax (?!??). They are in your state, spending money in your state. They are not taking money out. Their money is flowing into YOUR economy which needs it, solely through their kind hearts. I'm sorry, but there's no "bureaucracy" here. Cuomo was faced with the decision whether to tax the volunteers, and he made it. New York city council and governors made conscious decisions to be asinine, and New York residents--whom all they did was get unlucky and catch the virus--pay the price.
 

shittim

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How would they "tax" a volunteer?
 

acts5_29

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It's a state income tax. So if you work there for more than 14 days, you are required to file, and crunch all those numbers of your income that you made all year. It may break down that you owe New York, even though you didn't make a dime there.

Similar thing happens if you are a US citizen working abroad. The US is the only country in the world that requires all citizens to file a US tax return, even if you never set foot on US soil all year. Even if you earned every dime of your income in Hungary, because Hungary's income taxes are less than the US, the US believes you are required to pay the US taxes on that money.
 

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thats weird I am not sure they are targetting just Christians though but anybody. Of course christians are the ones most wanting to help, put their lives on the line etc.
NYC has always wanted to make a buck out of anyone though...since you cant even find a place to live without paying throught the roof in rent.
 

Lanolin

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before covid-19' people in NYC itself werent even allowed to grow community gardens on waste or abandoned land.
 

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It's because of Franklin Graham's history of anti-gay hate speech
He's been banned from the UK for the same reason
His staff even has the sign mission statements that contain anti-lgbt rhetoric
 

Nehemiah6

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It's because of Franklin Graham's history of anti-gay hate speech...
How can God's truth be labeled as "hate speech" by the real haters -- the Left-Liberals of the world? Liberals HATE THE TRUTH, and the truth is that homosexuality in any form is sexual perversion -- wickedness. If Graham speaks out against wickedness, he does what he is supposed to do. He should be commended by all.

The underlying attitude of all Liberals is hatred. Hatred for God, for Christ, for Christians, for Christianity, for conservative values, for the Constitution, for the rule of law. They mask their hatred with virtue signaling, but their daily lies and hatred are plain for all to see. At the same time they have no qualms about supporting the hateful Islamist jihadists, evil dictators, the Chinese Communists, etc. The more evil you are the more support you will get from Liberals.

And their hypocrisy knows no bounds. They were all a part of the #MeTooMovement until Joe Biden was outed as a sexual predator and a slime ball. Now he is Saint Joe for the Democrats and the Liberals! And while everyone can see that he is totally unfit for any office of any kind, he is being promoted as a presidential hopeful. How stupid is that? Stupidity + hatred = anarchy.
 

Dude653

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How can God's truth be labeled as "hate speech" by the real haters -- the Left-Liberals of the world? Liberals HATE THE TRUTH, and the truth is that homosexuality in any form is sexual perversion -- wickedness. If Graham speaks out against wickedness, he does what he is supposed to do. He should be commended by all.

The underlying attitude of all Liberals is hatred. Hatred for God, for Christ, for Christians, for Christianity, for conservative values, for the Constitution, for the rule of law. They mask their hatred with virtue signaling, but their daily lies and hatred are plain for all to see. At the same time they have no qualms about supporting the hateful Islamist jihadists, evil dictators, the Chinese Communists, etc. The more evil you are the more support you will get from Liberals.

And their hypocrisy knows no bounds. They were all a part of the #MeTooMovement until Joe Biden was outed as a sexual predator and a slime ball. Now he is Saint Joe for the Democrats and the Liberals! And while everyone can see that he is totally unfit for any office of any kind, he is being promoted as a presidential hopeful. How stupid is that? Stupidity + hatred = anarchy.
Maybe the city of New York sees his organization as a liability
 
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Hi from the UK,

The UK is hardly handling the coronavirus crisis well (worst in Europe!) but I can't believe that in the USA you have so called leaders allowing bureaucracy to stand in the way of progress.
Oh well, I guess it's in these people's nature.